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juu1k0ry,
Amen! Haleluja! You FINALLY get it. I hope more will follow your lead. I'm surprised it took you this long, but maybe the truth isn't explained clearly enough on our website or is buried so deep in detail that it's hard to find. If there is a way to organize, simplify, or present the fundamental truths found on this website better than we have so people like you will reach the same conclusions SOONER during their exposure with less effort, please share with us the technique. We have been STRUGGLING with the best of intentions for years trying to figure out just exactly how to do that. It's a very complicated task to try to simplify things to the point where people will “get it” without a lot of studying and research.
Quote:“The essence of genius is simplicity.”? [Albert Einstein]Maybe we aren't geniuses, but we have tried very hard to simplify and boil things down. The competing requirement that slows us down is the need to provide enough supporting legal evidence so that our audience can conveniently drill (click) as deep into the FRAUD as they want to confirm their suspicions about just how corrupt our government has become, and maybe even prosecute that corruption in a court of law. It's hard to boil 9500 pages of the I.R.C. and 500Mbytes of the IRM down into some very simple and universal truths that people will instinctively agree with and universally understand without a lot of supporting detail. That job has been simplified by applying scriptural truths to as much of the information as we can so that their study will be guided by the Holy Spirit.
Incidentally, your sentiments are paraphrased on our About Us page, Section 1. To wit:
Quote:Both the Supreme Court in Proprieters of Charles River Bridge v. Proprieters of Warren Bridge, 36 U.S. 420 (1837) and the U.S. Code in 28 U.S.C. ?3002(15)(A) admit that all governments are ?corporations? and therefore for-profit businesses.? We believe that government should therefore be run like any other capitalist business and that they should strictly obey their corporate charter, the United States Constitution.? All the patriot rhetoric you read on the internet about freedom, sovereignty, and? taxation really boils down to this one important issue.? The product government “sells” to the public is “protection”, and like any other business, it cannot and should not be allowed to FORCE people to buy its product.? Government should also not be able to criminalize non-payment for its services in the form of ?taxes?, since no other business can.? To do otherwise is to:1.? Interfere with our sovereign right to contract or not contract as we see fit.? This is a protected right under Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution.
2.? Deprive “nontaxpayers” of equal protection.
3.? Encourage an irresponsible government that is not completely and directly accountable to the people.
4.? Destroy self-government of the people and compel government dependency and slavery in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment by interfering with the ability of individuals and families to support themselves.
“The power to tax is the power to destroy.”?
[John Marshal, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, M'Culloch v. Maryland, 4 Wheat. 316, 431]
?The great principle is this: because the constitution will not permit a state to destroy, it will not permit a law [including ?judge-made law] involving the power to destroy [self-government by families or individuals].??
[Providence Bank v. Billings, 29 U.S. 514 (1830)]
The purpose of taxation is to fund the institutionalized process of providing “protection”.? Like any other business, we believe that people should always have the right to only pay government for what they individually want and need and have contracted in writing to receive, including in the area of “protection”.?? If the government can write a law stating that any contract with any government agent not reduced to writing is void and unenforceable, then certainly we as sovereign citizens have the EQUAL right to demand the SAME EQUAL protection from the government in our relationship with it:
See for yourself in section 1 below:
http://famguardian.org/aboutus.htm
Nice work. Keep up the fight!
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juu1k0ry,
Admiralty courts are privileged “franchise courts”. Basically, you are asking how they can force you into what amounts to a “franchise court”. The answer is that they can't. Tax Court, District Courts, and Circuit Courts are all legislative “franchise courts” established under Articles I and IV respectively. Here is what the U.S. Supreme Court said on this subject:
Quote:?The distinction between public rights [e.g. FRANCHISES] and private rights has not been definitively explained in our precedents.? Nor is it necessary to do so in the present cases, for it suffices to observe that a matter of public rights must at a minimum arise ?between the government and others.? Ex parte Bakelite Corp., supra, at 451, 49 S.Ct., at 413.? In contrast, ?the liability of one individual to another under the law as defined,? Crowell v. Benson, supra, at 51, 52 S.Ct., at 292, is a matter of private rights. Our precedents clearly establish that only controversies in the former category may be removed from Art. III courts and delegated to legislative courts or administrative agencies for their determination. See Atlas Roofing Co. v. Occupational Safety and Health Review Comm'n, 430 U.S. 442, 450, n. 7, 97 S.Ct. 1261, 1266, n. 7, 51 L.Ed.2d 464 (1977); Crowell v. Benson, supra, 285 U.S., at 50-51, 52 S.Ct., at 292. See also Katz, Federal Legislative Courts, 43 Harv.L.Rev. 894, 917-918 (1930).FN24 Private-rights disputes, on the other hand, lie at the core of the historically recognized judicial power.?[Northern Pipeline Const. Co. v. Marathon Pipe Line Co., 458 U.S. 50, 102 S.Ct. 2858 (1983)]
Therefore, one who declares themselves a “nontaxpayer” cannot lawfuly be declared anything else pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 2201(a), the Declaratory Judgments Act. A “nontaxpayer” is a person not engaged in the “trade or business” franchise. Challenge the jurisdiction of the court to produce the statue conferring Article III jurisdiction. It doesn't exist. Absent said statute, it is a legislative “franchise court” by default. This is exhaustively proven in:
What Happened to Justice
http://sedm.org/ItemInfo/Ebooks/WhatHappJu…HappJustice.htm
For further details, see Litigation Tool 10.002:
http://sedm.org/Litigation/LitIndex.htm
The income tax is a franchise tax upon the “trade or business” franchise. They can't force you into a District or a Circuit Court or the Tax Court, based on the above, because they are all franchise courts. Please do your homework. I'm not your mama.
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SaintPaul,
Answers:
1. We don't maintain statistics. Its too burdensome and we aren't staffed to do this. Furthermore, its irrelevant because the SSA website includes the form for quitting and their POMS manual has procedures for it. Ask them.
2. No one in the govenrment is ever going to recognize or promote anything that will allow people to quit the system, because it ends their gravy train. That is why the SSA 521 and the quitting procedures are carefully hidden on the SSA website.
3. Don't know of any.
4. Don't know.
5. Please submit updates and corrections to the forums as you find them at:
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showforum=11
The author of the document informs us that he has added to the form a Frequently Asked Questions section that also directly addresses your questions.
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Please repost it. Someone deleted it. Sorry.
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It's better to use the following because then you can prove WHAT was sent. Certified mail only proves that SOMETHING was sent.
Form #01.005
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Richard9151,
I wanted to clarify our position on this website based on your comments. We do not advocate litigation. The only reason we mention litigation is that it establishes the standard of proof that we seek here for every position that we take. We want to make sure that we avoid presumptions of all kinds about government authority, because that is what got us into the mess this country finds itself in now.
Like you, we too seek the reasons that explain why and how corruption has spread in America. Those reasons are summarized on our About Us page, section 1. They are summarized in the things we oppose:
1. Legal ignorance on the part of Americans that allows public servants to abuse their authority and violate the law.
2. The abuse of presumption to injure the rights of sovereign Americans, in violation of due process of law and God's law found in Numbers 15:30. Much of this presumption is compelled by the government by willfully dumbing-down the average Americans about legal subjects in the public (government) schools. This makes the legal profession into essentially a “priesthood” and a pagan “religion” that the average American blindly worships and obeys, without ever questioning authority. It is a supreme injustice to proceed against a person without every conclusion being based ONLY on fact and not presumption, opinion, or belief. Click here for a detailed article on this scam and sin.
3. Public servants deceiving the public by portraying “Private Law” as “Public Law”. Click here (OFFSITE LINK) for an article on this subject.
4. Public servants refusing to acknowledge the requirement for consent in all human interactions. Click here (OFFSITE LINK) for an article on this subject.
5. Willful omissions from government websites and publications that keep the public from hearing the whole truth. The problem is not what these sources say, but what the DON'T say. The Great IRS Hoax contains over 2,000 pages of information that neither the IRS nor any one in government is willing to reveal to you because it would destroy the gravy train of plunder that pays their bloated salaries and fat retirement in violation of 18 U.S.C. ?208.
6. The use of “words of art” to deceive the people in both government publications and the law itself. Click here for examples.
7. The lack of “equal protection of the law” in courts of justice relating to the statements and actions of public servants, whereby the IRS doesn't have to assume responsibility for its statements and actions, and yet persons who fill out tax forms can be thrown in jail and prosecuted for fraud if they emulate the IRS by being just as careless. This also includes “selective enforcement”, where the DOJ positively refuses to prosecute submitters of false information returns but spends a disproportionate share of its resources prosecuting false income tax returns. They do this because they are more interested in STEALING your money than in justice. See:
7.1 Federal Courts and IRS' Own IRM Say NOT RESPONSIBLE for its actions or its words or following its own internal procedures
7.2 Requirement for Equal Protection and Equal Treatment, Form #05.033 (OFFSITE LINK)
8. Enforcing franchises, such as a ” trade or business” without requiring explicit written consent in some form, such as the issuance and voluntary signing of an application for a license. Click here (OFFSITE LINK) for details.
9. Efforts to destroy the separation of powers that is the main protection for our liberties. This results in abuses of the Court system for political, rather than legal, purposes (politicizaton of the courts). All of the federal courts we have now are Article IV, territorial courts that are part of the Executive, rather than Judicial Branch of the government. As such, there is no separation of powers and nothing but tyranny can result. See the following for proof of this destruction:
9.1 Government Conspiracy to Destroy the Separation of Powers, Form #05.023 (OFFSITE LINK)- shows how lying, thieving public servants have systematically destroyed the separation of powers since the founding of this country
9.2 What Happened to Justice? (OFFSITE LINK)-book which proves that we have no Judicial Branch within the federal government, and that all the existing federal courts are acting in an Article IV territorial capacity as part of the Executive, rather than Judicial, branch of the government.
9.3 How Scoundrels Corrupted our Republican Form of Government-brief overview of how the separation of powers has been systematically destroyed
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Richard9151,
Whether the evidence supporting the assertion proposed will be accepted by the judge is quite a different matter than is there evidence available. Our goals are to compile and organize evidence that will convince a JURY, not a judge. This website is a public education website, which as you point out is the solution to the problems we face. That education must be based ONLY on credible sources of belief, not on whether a judge will accept them. A sovereign does not use a corrupted judge as the only metric for whether something is true, nor does he rely on “opinions” of others, but only on things that there is evidence to support. The JURY is the main metric, meaning a panel of AVERAGE americans who are confronted with evidence of the kind that you seem reluctant to present to support your hypothesis.
Now get busy and show us your evidence or send it to us using a private message. Evidence is all we care about. Opinions or beliefs are not admissible pursuant to F.R.E. 610.
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Richard9151,
Yes, we entirely accept that idea. The only thing missing that you might be able to help with is all the court-admissible evidence that supports that idea so it can be proved in court. If you could provide that, we'll post it and share it with everyone. Otherwise, you're just sharing opinions. This forum is a mock court and not a place for opinions, but rather facts and evidence to prove what you say is true. This provides practice to our members in litigating and helps them in litigating to defend their rights.
We don't accept presumptions, opinions, or patriot mythology here. The only thing readers can rely upon are the things documented below:
Reasonable Belief About Income Tax Liability, Form #05.007
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Richard9151,
You're preaching to the choir. The article you posted is already found on Family Guardian. It has been here for at least four years.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Arti…Corporation.htm
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Richard,
Nice work. You're absolutely correct. Exactly the same conclusions are reached in the Resignation of Compelled Social Security Trustee Document posted on this website:
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Forms/Em…stIndenture.pdf
See section 3 in the above document.
Admin
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Author #5,
Looks like IRM section 5.1.11.6.10 has moved to a new section 5.1.11.6.8:
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Here's yet another update on Eddie Kahn:
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Original Message
From: Bob Minarik [mailto:rlmpfl9065@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:56 AM To: bob minarik
Subject: Eddie Kahn still in jail!!!! No trial, No conviction, No release on bond!!
Eddie Kahn is still in jail!!! Not a country club prison – but a dirty
crowded county jail!!! Been there for 170 days and counting!!!
FBInapped from his home in Panama City, Panama on October 31st, 2006!!!!
Held ever since!!!! Not even been tried yet!!!! Being held without
bond!!!!! 70 day speedy trial rule out the window!!!! To be treated like
this Eddie must have murdered someone, or at least molested little girls or
maybe even little boys, wouldn't you think?????
Nooooooooo!! – Nothin so flamboyant as that!!! So what did Eddie do?? He
did what every good American should be doing and questioned and spoke out
publicly about the income tax system. He then passed along his research
information to Wesley Snipes, who then filed claims for return of property
wrongfully taken. So for those acts Eddie is hit with two felonies –
Conspiracy to Defraud the government (18 USC
371) is one and being held to the standards of the principal (18 USC 2),
meaning he is charged with what Wesley did (18 USC 287) is the other.
bob minarik – rochester indiana – 574-542-9065 –
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FYI: I've always believed in the popular adage: “Put your money where your mouth is.” Although it's a financial “stretch” for me right now, this afternoon I sent a U. S. Postal Money Order, in the amount of $100.00, by Priority Mail (Delivery Confirmation Number: 0306 2400 0002 0518 2960) to Kookie Kahn in Florida. If you truly can't help Eddie and Kookie (pronounced Cookie) Kahn (pronounced Cain) financially, then please lift them up with your prayers to God Almighty in the Name of our Savior and Lord, Jesus the Christ.
Original Message
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: Eddie Kahn Up-date #2
Eddie Kahn Up-date #2
March 28th 2007
From Eddie Kahn:
Family and Friends,
I am writing to update you on my sweet wife and my current situation. I say both of us because, even though I am the one that is incarcerated, Kookie has been doing whatever has been necessary to be done ?on the street?, as these guys in here say. She has been such a blessing.
Today is my 148th day of being in jail. It has been a real adventure! I have had numerous guys come up to me and say ?You?re not supposed to be in here.? They say that because I am much older than most of them. I also can?t contribute much to their conversations. If you can?t talk about ?crack? cocaine, ?blunts?, ?weed?, ?whore?, my baby?s Moma? (not many married guys here but most of them have children by more than one woman) and other street lingo, you just don't fit in. Most of them are in here for crimes that would be violations of God?s Laws (i.e. Robbery, Rape, Murder, Thefts of all kinds. The vast majority have to do with drug sales and use.)
The Assistant U.S. Attorney?s (there are five of them assigned to this case) have conspired with the Magistrate and the regular Judge in this case to make sure I stay in jail with no bond. There are guys here that have been charged with murder that get out on bond of $10,000 and they are looking at 20 years to Life. I am looking at 10 years max and get no bond.
The trial was originally scheduled for March 5th 2007 ― however, Wesley Snipes, my co-defendant, and his lawyers (he has three or four) have asked for 800,000 pages of documents from the government. Consequently, and understandably, it will take awhile to peruse through all those pages so they've rescheduled the trial for October 1st, 2007.
We have put a number of Demands and Petitions before the Court to get them to release me. So far, we have not been successful. Fortunately, God has sent a number of his angels to help us. These people just appear when we need them. They are coming with fresh ideas and other types of assistance (use of car, a place for Kookie to stay, a new computer and printer purchased for Kookie to do all the typing and preparing of documents for the court, financial gifts for phone calls and gas, and airline tickets when needed.) These things just come when they are needed and what a blessing they have been.
I have no doubt we will ultimately be successful. The reason is, is that the U.S. Attorney is lying and cheating to get a conviction. We are dealing honestly and in truth. I will give you and idea of what we are dealing with. The Fourth Amendment to the constitution of the United States of America says that the Plaintiff in a criminal case must file a ?complaint? alleging the specific things that the Defendant did to constitute a crime. It must be sworn to and signed under penalty of perjury. It must have a supporting affidavit as well. The Arrest Warrant must have an affidavit of probable cause attached to it to justify someone?s arrest.
The U.S. Attorney has none of those things! In other words, the Plaintiff has not ?complained? against me. There is no valid Arrest Warrant, and yet, the FBI kidnapped me from Panama and took me to Miami ! The IRS took me from there to Ocala, Florida. I went before a magistrate. I said, ?I want a copy of the verified complaint and supporting affidavit.? The Magistrate looked at me. The U.S. Attorneys looked at me. Nobody said a word on the Record. The Magistrate then said no bond, go straight to jail.
What they did was totally illegal. They are very arrogant about it, as well. The Bible talks about ?spiritual wickedness in high places.? In my personal experience, I can tell you it is that way in the Federal government today. Our game plan is to do whatever it takes to get this case dismissed. Without the verified complaint, it was actually illegal for the U.S. Attorney to go to the Grand Jury to get an Indictment.
Anyway, that is what is happening here. I hope and pray that everything is going well in your lives. I am going to ask Kookie to fill you in from her perspective.
God Bless you All,
Eddie
From Cookie Kahn:
Hi All,
Nobody knows better than me that it is way past time for an update on Eddie?s situation. After he wrote the above he was transferred to Lake County Jail where he has been since March 30th.
Since Eddie was denied bond on Dec. 14th 2006, he has been requesting to be transferred preferably to Citrus County Jail where there is a much better law library and internet access so he can effectively prepare for trial. He put a motion in a couple of weeks ago regarding his Continued Denial of Due Process of Law, and apparently the U.S. Marshall's decided to let him move after all. It was however, not to Citrus County, but to Lake County which is proving to be no better, in fact it is worse considering the fact that I cannot even take a pencil and paper in when I visit through the thick glass walls. I also cannot take legal documents in for him to review and study in preparation for trial. Never mind that it is closer for me and a cleaner institution. Those are not the important issues at this time.
With the transfer, his glasses were taken away, his address book and phone contact list was thrown away, and he has to start over on getting a visitation list approved. As of today, 11 days later, there is still no one listed on his visitors list, not even me. When I called about that, the reason given was because the lady who handles that is on vacation and that they just had a new computer system installed and it is unfamiliar to the staff. I was told that on April 5th and again on April 9th.
Last Friday night, I just showed up during visitation hours and explained that I was Eddie?s wife, and that I understood that I was not on the visitor?s list yet but that it was most likely because the letters that I am sending with my physical address (which is required) and new local phone number are being returned to me, so naturally he would not have them to provide the staff with that information. (Takes a rocket scientist!)
I was given favor with the girl at the counter who allowed me to have a visit so I could provide my husband with my current address and new phone number. I was told that the only way I could get legal materials and documents to him was to mail them. The last 5 days I have been mailing many documents and materials for him to read and incorporate into his motions, petitions and filings. Yesterday, these mailings started being returned to me stating reasons on the outside of the envelope of the fact that he is not in custody (believe me, he is!) and that computer downloads are not allowed. I did exactly as they told me to do and now they say it is not allowed? (Typical schizophrenic DOJ , institutionalized insanity and overall contrived disconnect, ” The Caligula syndrome”)
Eddie?s current address is:
Eddie Kahn #80826
c/o Lake County Sheriff?s Office Detention Center
551 W. Main Street
Tavares, FL 32778
Up to this time we have had several people working with our good friend Carol to raise funds for duplicating and distributing America: Freedom To Fascism, the excellent documentary by award winning producer Aaron Russo. Aaron has given us permission to duplicate and distribute as many as we can to help Eddie. If you have not seen this movie yet, you owe it to yourself. We continue to encourage people to view and share this vital information that any true blooded American could not watch without some thought provoking reservations.
We are, however, at this time considering a different approach in helping to Free Eddie Kahn. If you can participate in any way, we sincerely thank you in advance. Many of you are fully aware of the sacrifices that Eddie has made in his own personal freedom and in the freedom to be with and raise the family he loves. Through American Rights Litigators, Guiding Light of God Ministries, and Eddie Kahn and Associates, his efforts were directed at helping to educate people and encourage Americans to seek truth in the knowledge of the laws. He made a serious commitment to fight for our God-given Rights. Above all it was important for him to honor the Lord in his actions and words in doing this work.
Over the years many of you have indicated to him that he was instrumental in helping you to “see the light”, to learn how to study the law, to not be afraid of your own public servants, or just to be successful in helping you to understand the truths that are necessary for a sovereign people.
If you know Eddie well, you will know him to be a man of his word, a man of honor and integrity. He has helped thousands of people all across the United States of America, Canada, New Zealand and Australia, teaching them how to study the laws of their land and how to stand up when duty calls rather than wincing and running in fear or turning away because it was uncomfortable, only to pass a more involved and difficult problem on to our next generation.
Eddie is not afraid of jail and he is not afraid of the people who are trying to incarcerate him for 10 years. Eddie knows that with God you are a majority, but that life is not always fair. As Eddie?s wife, I am very proud of him; he is a true Patriot. Frankly, I do not know a lot of people with the fortitude that it takes to stand for truth in this arena. I have met a lot of people who have appreciated Eddie?s diligence in seeking Truth and admire his strength and courage.
So? at this time we are switching our fund raising focus to collect monies so we can have the US Observer http://www.usobserver.com investigate Eddie?s case. This is an online and physical newspaper run by a gentleman named Ed Snook. By visiting Ed?s website you will begin to see how they are successful in helping people who have been wrongly accused.
Ed Snook and the US Observer believe in the USA, our Constitution, and the public right to adequate representation. This organization is designed to keep the innocent free, the public informed and our form of government controlled by the people.
The US Observer believes that there is only one way to remedy false prosecution: Investigate the accusers, the prosecutors, the detectives and then watch the judge very carefully. (In Eddie?s case they may even need to investigate the judge and magistrate!) In other words, this would be a complete and in-depth investigation which they would take into the public arena. Ed Snook is serious about not wasting people?s time or money. He does not look at this as a game but rather a life and the liberty that is being taken away. What he and his staff require is innocence with conclusive evidence.
The Observer costs $10,000 (plus airfare for depositions) for Ed?s staff to expose the wrongdoing…But he also offers a 100% money back guarantee should they fail to prove innocence with the conclusive evidence and achieve a goal of total vindication.
I did my homework and spoke with several people who had used Ed in the past to deal with their false prosecutions. In EVERY case the people had absolutely nothing but excellent things to report about Ed and the fine job his staff did. Not only that, they all said that they felt that with our justice system the way it is today, that without the help of Ed and the US Observer, they believed they would have been pronounced guilty for something they were innocent of and be in prison today.
The US Observer focuses on demanding accountability. They focus on false criminal charges. They focus on the TRUTH. We can thank Wesley Snipes for making this a high profile case. Because of this the public is watching and waiting. A win in this case would not just help Eddie but potentially help thousands of other people who could find themselves in this same situation, and some who are currently there now.
As an example: If 100 people donated $100, or 200 people donated $50 we would have the retainer fee covered and the only other costs to us would be for the airfares.
Please help me to focus on tipping the scales of justice in Eddie?s favor. More importantly than the power of money is the power of prayer and we welcome all who are dedicated in praying for Eddie?s release and freedom.
Donations can be sent to: Kookie Kahn
P.O. Box 969
Tavares, Florida 32778.
Please note that your donation is specifically to be used for the US Observer.
Thank you for your time in reading this. Please feel free to forward this e-mail to anyone and everyone so our goal can be accomplished.
With many thanks and much appreciation,
Kookie Kahn
“It is the duty of the Patriot to protect his country from his government” ~Thomas Paine
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Jman,
Please don't post anything about errata or problems with SEDM materials here. You need to contact them in their own forums page at:
This is a completely separate ministry and Family Guardian DOES NOT take responsibility for or answer the mail for SEDM.
Thanks,
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Layed,
Your question relates to an item that is NOT found on Family Guardian. You are referrning to the Affidavit of Citzienship, Domicile, and Tax Status, Form #02.001 on SEDM. You need to post it to the SEDM forums. Not this forum.
Can't answer your other question.