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Bing,
Agreed. I have spent probably no less than 300 hours reading and reviewing the material on this site… and 200 on others to compare, contrast, etc. Was it worth it?
YES!
I would do it again and I continue to do so. We all are soldiers, fighting for the rights of those who think we are nuts, crazy, or anarchists. We can only hope to reach them.
This is one of my favorite sites… It's hard to play favorites when one also has whatreallyhappened.com and wingtv.net. HOWEVER, when it comes to analysis of the law and spirituality, nothing has come close to the famguardian.
There is no way I can repay Author #2, but hopefully, through our actions, we can help spread his gifts to others.
cheers,
-rattler
Basically, the Anti-Hate legislation is to protect the zionists and NWO people from being accused. They simply make the claim of hate speech and haul you off to jail. And with the patriot act, they can try to hold you without trial.
We're running out of time here folks… if we don't fight now, we won't be quite effective from behind prison bars.
cheers
- Sonik Speed wrote on Sep 28 2005, 05:36 PM:OH MAN OH MAN!!!
WOULD I LOVE TO ENGAGE IN A BATTLE THROUGH LEGAL ARGUMENTS WITH HIM! ITS PEOPLE LIKE THAT – THAT KEEP ME PUMPED!
Either invite this guy in here, or just walk away. I know JUST the places to convince him of this income tax nonsense.
Sonik Speed
[post=”1816″][/post]Ask… and ye shall recieve
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/legality-of-…me-tax/messages
Ronald Weston posts here almost daily. You'll also find some of the quatloser usuals there as well (Brian Rookard, Daniel B. Evans).
Try not to waste too much of your time there. The disinfo agents are thick as bricks and are merely there to muddle the waters. If you post an amazing reply, it will be ignored and they'll snipe back with BS… You'll also meet Dr. Tom, one of the 861 leaders. Again, he's as thick as they come when it comes to anything outside of USC 1, 61, and 861… so you might not want to waste your time. You can take a horse to a lake, but you can't make him read and understand the freagin law 🙂
cheers
BOBT12,
No problem. It's just when I post links about the IRS, Fed Reserve, 9/11, etc… If there is something I can't confirm, I state it when I post the link. That way, you at least give people a heads up to dig deeper to confirm themselves.
The problem with Flocco, is he posts everything as fact, and he exxagerates immensely. For instance, he's claimed the Bush and Cheney were already indicted by a grand jury in Chicago. While it might be legally possible to do so, and while indictment charges may be being discussed, you can certainly see Bush and Cheney walking freely today. So, they HAVEN'T been indicted.
It may be nitpicky, but we all know small changes in words or their meanings (like include *groan*) have a big impact on what you're saying.
But your original point still stands. How much evidence do the sheeple need before they will actually say “hey! something's not right here!” I figured we would have already crossed that point by now. oops
BOBT12,
Again Bob, be careful. This here is an unproven accusation
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3617
Flocco has been known to post sensationalistic stories and then never reveal sources or confirm. While it would be truly amazing if this actually occurred, it's still not definite.
Just like the IRS stuff, there is a lot of disinfo… you have to be careful what you argue, because you can discredit yourself before you get the chance to prove your case.
cheers,
- bruce wrote on Sep 24 2005, 10:51 AM:Kudos to Author #2 and the F.G. family? :D?
I appreciate the ministry of FG and SEDM.
I have utilized the knowledge learned and help from FG & SEDM to help me stand against the wickedness in high places.
Equally I have enjoyed the forum in that thinking and debating outside the box opens ones eyes to reality and provokes one to good works.
I know that we are all in search of reasons for the bondage now perpetrated on the once free people of America.? Although I know that there is no simple answer for this crime but we must keep pressing on until we win back our freedom.? Knowledge really is power.? Just like the framers of our Constitution intended to protect us from government tyranny there has been an ongoing agenda to dumb us all down to provide good slaves and sheeple.?Â
Given the amount of education required to be truly free I spend most of my free time trying to educate myself in freedom and related necessities of life just to protect myself from loosing my own personal freedom.
Most of my life I believed that I lived in a free country and was proud of it but now I have come to the knowledge that our Country is no longer a free Republic but has evolved not by chance into a Democracy.? Having said that I would like to submit an article I came across that seems to reveal this disturbing topic.? I think I have discovered a conspiracy!? Well here is a url to an essay by a great american teacher that I thought might be interesting to all, at least I hope so.?
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/hp/frames.htm
Best Regards,
Bruce from the republic of Illinois
[post=”1791″][/post]welcome Bruce.
John Taylor Gatto is a definite asset to the movement against the NWO. Here is an essay from his book “Dumbing us Down”
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/tma68/7lesson.htm
and of course, his absolutely amazing book, “The Underground History of American Education”
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm
readable online
cheers
JWR,
YES. Matt Furey's workouts are key (http://mattfurey.com/). Honestly, I'm a track coach now, and have been competing and working out since 6th grade (jeez, almost 13-14 years ago). This is by far, the best workout for your body and mind.
I know people think the material is pricey, but I would pay it again if I had to.
Regarding guns, evacuation, etc. Yes. All the planning in the world can be for naught if you make on mistake and FEMA throws you in solitary confinement. At that point, you have only your sense of humor, your sense of determination, and faith in whatever God you happen to believe in.
Obviously, we are all going to have to play this out by ear.
cheers
- lambskin wrote on Sep 23 2005, 08:54 PM:Rattler, if you've received “a threat”, just one, it “will” become “threats” w/ more frequency and of more severe intent. It's out of personal experience that I can assure you of this. This is only in love my freind. It may become necessary for you to either relocate, get a gun or both. People can be sick, are capable of anything, have no respect for life, and if you've encountered one of these total degenerate types, you've gotta start paying even more attention.
Hope that helps my freind and I truly hope you find it of more value than any advice you'd get anywhere else 'cause if things start to get real ugly soon (and the way it's goin' it looks like that may be sooner for all of us than any of us realizes), it's the only thing that's going to do ya any real good, it's all that's really gonna matter in the end.
Grace and peace.
[post=”1786″][/post]Agreed. But again, it's one of those “I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees” type of situations.
Surely, I could run away to the midwest, and live a happy life… until, that is, it's the last place left, and there is nowhere else to run when the start coming there.
- Bing wrote on Sep 23 2005, 11:13 AM:PS. Our beloved Lambchop (a/k/a Lambskin), who I personally believe is an undercover IRS Agent who has tried to infiltrate this Fourm, was going to author a post similar to the one above, and share this great info with the Forum's readers, but he was too busy pretending to be religious and organizing his Freedom Conference to be held in Chicago at some unspecified date in the future.[post=”1783″][/post]
LOL.
yeah, I'm always a bit suspicious with first time posters.
- Author #2 wrote on Sep 22 2005, 04:48 PM:Bing,
Thanks for the suggestion, but…Instead of piling more work on the author, why don't you guys help out by compiling what you are asking for so I can post it?? Do I look like yo-mama?? What you are asking for would be a tremendous amount of work, you know.
He..he…he.
Author #2? 😆
I was thinking the same thing. We are all busy, all spending lots of time on this. FG obviously has put together a tome for free, and no one really can ask anymore from him. He also has to deal with this fraudulent DOJ injunction right now. It would be nice, but he's got other things on his mind, I'm sure.
This is not an angry attack at you Bing, just saying that this could be tough on someone who is already going full till.
cheers
- Bing wrote on Sep 22 2005, 10:56 AM:In the meantime, I urge everyone to append a signature to their email messages and to list the http://www.sedm.org website and the link to the free Hoax book.
Bing
[post=”1771″][/post]agreed. done.
cheers
Yes, things can be quite trying at times. My favorite response is “why can't you just make life easy and go with it”. This infuriates me to no end and actually motivates me to try harder.
Would I rather go to the bar and watch the sox game and chit chat about life? sure. It sounds like a great time. But if I have to be in my poorly lit room doing research, writing letters, or e-mailing people, I will do so. It's a sacrifice, a choice I've made. The consequences do suck. But in the end, I know that this is not about me. I used to think life was merely a game of how happy I could be. Man, how shallow and boring. I see it now in my friends. All decisions are made by what will make them the happiest. Now granted, I'm not a masochist and fully agree that one should enjoy life from time to time. Heck, I think everyone deserves a nice walk to relax and decompress after a long day. But, these people will never put them in harms way to do what is right.
Sonik. You bring up a very good point. Famkly Guardian has done some absolutely OUTSTANDING research on this site. I personally cannot commend this group enough for their efforts, which have directly or indirectly brought us all here. However, I understand your concern that the amount of information here can be like trying to take a sip from a fire hose. E-mail someone a 1800+ page pdf about income taxes, and their eyes glaze by page 30 (if they last that long).
That is why I think some of FG' newer works (trade or business scam, why a national, etc) are far more effective than “The Great IRS Hoax” simply because they can hook more people in and give it to them in a smaller chunk. It's essentially a problem of marketing. FG has an excellent product (***THOUGH IT IS NOT FOR SALE AND DOES NOT CONSTITUTE COMMERCE***) and just needs to be packaged in way to get to the masses in a clear and simple message. OBVIOUSLY, this is not a simple issue and all the research is necessary as a large appendix (for the nitty gritty and clarification). But most need a quick outline/summary/overview before they're even willing to dig deeper.
I created a flier for FG a while back… more as a poster campaign. I'm insanely busy, but I'm going to try and make a collection of 5 or so, and start posting them around my campus. These smaller hooks allow one to get the maximum amount of exposure to as many people as possible to find the people we are looking for (the ones willing to stand up).
Figure, we are all allies in this battle… we could certainly use some more numbers.
take care everyone, and thanks for all the awesome replies
cheers
JWR, and others.
I guess I'm rather lucky, in that my family worries about me too… but they ALL agree with what I am doing. Mainly, because they know I'm not a fraud, a cheat, a bad person. I use to think jail was the ultimate low point in life. Now I realize that in this corrupt society, if the threat of being jailed isn't there, I'm probably not being active enough!
I talk to everyone, and I don't care what they think of me. Oh sure, I'm that “conspiracy nut” that thinks the government is out to get me. Despite the enormous loss of life and extreme sadness of the situation, I quickly point out the recent tragedy of Katrina to show these government worshippers that the government doesn't care about you at all! In fact, FEMA was more damage control for their PR and not the citizens (apparently “citizens of the United States” as they were treated just like the property that they are).
Thanks for the replies men, let's keep up the intensity.
cheers
btw, the phoenix dollar is about to open up shop… offering an easily convertible silver backed currency that will be redeemable worldwide.
https://www.phoenixdollar.net/phorum/
This guy is on top of his stuff, and spread the business into many countries to foil a government confiscation if it ever gets to that.
This guy is about as legit as it comes, and is to join the ranks of the liberty dollar in returning our country to real money.
cheers
- QUOTE(Sonik Speed @ Sep 17 2005, 02:06 PM)To whom this may concern…
Why are these questions not being answered? Does Bob Schulz, Mark Lane, Joe Banister, John Turner, Sherry Jackson or any other individuals that are closely affiliated with this group, KNOW ABOUT this website and the forum the author has conveniently developed?
It has over 850 hits, which can only mean that people want to know what is going on.
Sonik Speed
[snapback]1752[/snapback]I think this part of the forum might have been set up with the intent that the discussions from givemeliberty.org would occur here. However, since there really isn't that many posts, they have no reason to continually scan here. Besides, the jacked 850 hits was most likely during that high traffic week a few months back, where this entire forum was being scanned by someone or some group very heavily.
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