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I didn't put down a SSN because I no longer have one. Don't have one, don't need one, don't want one. If they try to pull the old “it's a status and not a contract”, I'll make it clear to them that I never signed myself up for such nonsense.
I am awaiting to hear back from them as I resubmitted my application with point by point rebuttals. Hopefully this will remedy their ignorance.
later Fiddo,
rattler
Fiddo wrote on Jun 5 2005, 11:54 AM:kewl, but did you apply for your passport using a SSN?I tried to apply without supplying a socialist number and got letters asking for more and more information even after I supplied names and addresses for brothers and sisters, they had a copy of by certified BC as well as copies of my drivers lic., photo from high school yearbook,..
My guess is they needed more information so that they could accurately identify me so they could “add” a number that I purposely left off. Since it says clearly on the document that a person “must” supply the number “only if they have a federal tax liability” which I don't have..
So, I have to re-apply since they rejected the form and sent me back my BC.
🙁
[post=”1517″][/post]Here's how I see it.
lchesson: I understand that you may be a in bind. You appear to be a nontaxpayer, though it's unclear if you understand the issues thoroughly and thus you could potentially be a risk to yourself and others. NOT because you are wrong in your beliefs (in the big picture), but wrong administratively. Unfortunately, it's the administrative domain where the IRS's legal and illegal enforcement really shines. Sure, you could be on the right side of the law, but they either don't know, don't want to know, or don't care. Because of this, one has to be extremely informed and educated on this issue in order to rebut any and all of the presumptions made by the government.
It is truly unfortunate that this requires putting forth a great deal of effort in terms of time and effort. We can easily see how inefficient it would be If every american had to do this much to educate themselves of this particular aspect of the USC. One can claim it's unfair. It is. I'm not trying to lecture you here, but there is no simple shortcut one can do and just magically have this problem go away. One false move and the IRS will be all up on you like flies on horse crap. Because of this unjust reality, the IRS and other agencies like to use disinformation by seemingly regular citizens to mislead honest americans to make these trip ups. These disinformers are usually met with GREAT hostility because they pose just as big a threat as the administration that creates law through “enforcement actions”.
That's what brings me here. You may truly be a nontaxpayer (I don't know, do not ask me for I can only speak for myself). However, your questions regarding this thread look potentially deceptive and misleading. Whether or not that is intentional or not is completely irrelevant. As the adage goes, the road to (censored) is paved with good intentions. True, this section is “members helping members”, but we cannot offer you legal advice. We can point you to certain passages which may help you in determining what to do, but that's it.
Bing is merely trying to help stop the spread of disinformation. You may think he is hostile, but he is no where near as dangerous to you with his cutting words as a US attorney will be if you utter the same questions in court. It sucks, I know. But rather than be upset and throw your hands up in the air, use this as a motivation to push a little harder and get informed. If your life prevents you from this self study (or someone else doing the studying for you and helping you through… note, I am not making this offer to you), then I'm truly sorry.
I hope the best for you, but the road is not easy.
- Bing wrote on May 26 2005, 05:59 AM:If you read the posts from the pro-IRS posters at http://www.quatloos.com, it quickly becomes apparent that they absolutely hate America. Not only that, their anti-USA and anti-USA Constitution stance is incredibly disrespectful to the men and women of the Armed Forces of the United States.
I am constantly referring every US soldier and sailor that I know and meet, to read the the quatloos website so they can see how the IRS and the DOJ and their own federal government, hates the USA and disrespects the USA Constitution. And the soldiers I have spoken with are, to a person, livid, to say the least.
The IRS shills who post at quatloos are their own worst enemy and their hatred of America is obvious to everyone. They are the Tax Honesty Movements best recruiters and the best part of it is, that they don't even know it.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahah.
Bing
Great idea! I didn't think of that. Seeing only the honest side of the IRS issue probably isn't enough… but to see the corruption on the other forums, perhaps that might help the push
thanks Bing, I also have some friends in the army and army reserves that I'll forward that along too. Some of them have already freed themselves from the matrix… but others take a bit more prodding.
take care
- Author #2 wrote on May 25 2005, 06:54 PM:Ratter 14,
More likely that the DOJ fraudulent indictment stirred up interest, and it's dying down now that the government and the public have seen the response we posted to their lies, along with the answer to their complaint posted today at:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/News…tack-050502.htm
Rather than respond to our rebuttal, they are just steering people away.? The Quatloosers are now going back to kissing Asskisser's ass instead of harassing us more honest folk:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Fals…sonQuatloos.htm
🙂
[post=”1480″][/post]😀
That Quatlooser guy is too much really. I encourage people on this forum to take a look at it for a good laugh. The head guy has no less than ~4000 posts basically making fun of everyone in the movement, while making no claims of substance or citing relevant law. Then, his cronies chime in with little more than “HA, let's hope they catch all those a$%-hole pay-triots LOL we're so cool!”
I honestly think it's all the same guy, just logging in under different names and praising his own comments. I was almost tempted to start rebutting some of his claims, but realized it's about as pointless as painting one's head teal… heck, at least that'd be a funny story and may be worth your time 🙂
Besides, I imagine all the losers on quatloos are just welfare recipients trying to keep the lie alive so they can sit on forums like quatloos all day
somedays, I'm just too mean 🙂
later
For those of you who are, how shall we say it, “uncreative” with your password generation, have no fear!
http://www.winguides.com/security/password.php
This site allows you to generate passwords of vary lengths, as well as add punctuation, upper and lowercase, numbers, etc. There is one catch, it could be based on a non random seed or the website can also document the passwords given out (if you're truly paranoid).
To improve, there are programs you can install on your computer and run from a command line or gui.
http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/
This binary you can install on your own machine and run to your heart's content!
And as a last check, you can always run a password breaker on your more simple passwords to test their validity. Hey, if crooks are gonna use this on your passwords, you might as well too in order to test the vulnerabilities.
Finally, I know this rush of information seems “All of the sudden”, but it's really not. This is good information for you to use all the time, and not just in times of crisis or new found fears. Protect your privacy vigilantly.
take care
There seems to be a large number of proxy services out there… some as complete packages for a specific OS (usually windows). Others act as plugins, and some you can login from any OS/browser. After my first pass, I have found no less than 10 different services (and surely dozens more exist). I'll do a quick bit of researching and get back to you all… ideally with the best subscription and free options.
Again, doing this has nothing to do with “having something to hide”, but rather it's about limiting the ability to be pinpointed to a specific location. Privacy is crucial.
take care
- BOBT12 wrote on May 24 2005, 03:25 PM:FYI: Odd timing,
There is a well above normal traffic to the following areas:
It seems we've returned to normal traffic. The number of “guests” has greatly decreased. This thread either scared them away or they have already printed/saved what they wanted to (not like I care, but it's just a possibility). The only other alternative is that a tidal wave of traffic from another forum was merely passing through and it's ended as of a day or two ago…
But enough speculating, let's get back to buisiness folks! 🙂
- tweety wrote on May 25 2005, 11:29 AM:
I wouldnt trust them a bit…. I went to http://www.hyperwhois.com and searched for whois info and it pointed me to the to search at http://whois.godaddy.com and this is what I've got:
Registrant:
Lagniappe Research and Investigations
9088 Southern Charm Drive
Shreveport, Louisiana 71115
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SEARCHINGSECURE.COM
Created on: 12-May-05
Expires on: 12-May-06
Last Updated on: 13-May-05
Administrative Contact:
Hudson, Rebekah rhudson@sport.rr.com
9990 Smugglers Cove
Shreveport, Louisiana 71115
United States
(318) 795-9353
Technical Contact:
Hudson, Rebekah rhudson@sport.rr.com
9990 Smugglers Cove
Shreveport, Louisiana 71115
United States
(318) 795-9353
Then I went on google and typed http://www.searchingsecure.com in search window.
Only 3 pages on whole www link to this page.
Then I typed “Lagniappe Research and Investigations” ( registrant name of http://www.searchingsecure.com ) in google search window and guess what? It says that they are Specializing in Criminal Background Checks
🙄
[post=”1472″][/post]LOL
It's amazing how accurate the gut instinct can be… thanks for the heads up. I'll repost this info on the forum that I discovered this website from.
man oh man, who can one trust these days
Another option for “Anonymous” proxy service
http://www.searchingsecure.com/
It's free, and it basically sifts you through their proxies… I don't know how legit this service is , so as always be cautious. It would be truly ridiculous if it was just a way to try and entrap people into doing something illegal under the guise that they were secure.
But that can be said about any security company…
take care, everyone
I like to use encryption, not because I have anything to hide, but because it's my RIGHT to if I so please.
A recent court case in Minnesota has decided that using a program like PGP can be used against you as evidence of “criminal intent”, because you must have something to hide if you're taking the time to encrypt everything.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/…7&tid=93&tid=17
http://news.com.com/Minnesota+court+takes+…_3-5718978.html
Take care everyone
- Bing wrote on May 23 2005, 09:35 AM:I am NOT AN ATTORNEY and this post is NOT legal advice.
Hypothetically speaking, one may presume that your understanding and that of your “friend” are both correct.
Moreover, working for the US Government means that one is “engaged in a trade or business”, and, therefore, your “friend” will have “effectively connected income”. Working for the US Government is an excise taxable privilege, and it IS NOT an Unalienable Right nor is it a Constitutional Right.
If your friend gets the job with the VA Hospital, then he should simply sit down, shut up, and pay the IRS the income taxes that are due on his effectively connected income related to his VA job. I believ that EVERY taxpayer should pay to the IRS, whatever it is that they lawfully owe to them. I myself am lawfully a non-taxpayer, so I don't pay the IRS any money at all. 😀
Your friend can not have it both ways.
If he wants to be a non-taxpayer, he should forgo the job with the US Government and instead, seek a job in the private sector. It is as simple as this.
There is no need to overly complicate this matter.
If your friend intentionally and voluntarily chooses to enter into an employment agreement within the US Government, then he or she should pay ALL of the income taxes that are imposed upon him/her by the IRC.
Tell your friend to read Chapters 3, 4, and 5 of the Hoax book. Then you should try and persuade him or her to make a donation to the SEDM Ministry. It is a great Ministry and a great Cause.
Bing
[post=”1458″][/post]agreed, you can make your life a whole lot easier by just NOT succombing to a government job. Even if you discover that you legally have no mandatory tax imposed (again, there are details that you've left out that would be key in determining this fact), by being attached in any way to the government, you don't make a strong case by not being involved with “trade or buisiness” wit h the United States, unless this is a state (a union state) agency.
- gwfg wrote on May 23 2005, 06:48 AM:NOTE: This is a request for opinions and may not be construed in any manner whatsoever to be considered a request for legal advice, however defined.
I have a friend that is preparing to take a job as a lab director with one of the Veterans Administration Hospitals west of the Mississippi River. I have consent from my friend to post this request for opinions, thought I do not have his consent to name the specific location of the hospital.
Therefore, it is my opinion, based on the definition of Employee in 26 USC 3401c and the definition of Employee in 26 CFR 31.3401c that if my friend takes this job for the VA Hospital as a lab director he will be working for “an ageny or instrumentality of any one of more of the foregoing”, as the text of both the USC and the CFR plainly state and as such WILL BE AN EMPLOYEE and will be subject to the jurisdiction of the “federal zone/district” and as such his pay from the VA WILL be lawfully subject to federal “income” taxes, and probably state “income” taxes also.
My friend is not convinced, though he is “fearful” that this is correct.
I request opinions regarding my position on this issue.
Respectfully,
GW
[post=”1455″][/post]It is my understanding that the code of federal regulations is divided into parts. Each part describes a particular type of tax established (or merely “proposed”) under title 26 of the USC.
The numbers on the federal regulations are very important. For instance
26 CFR 1.861
This would mean that we are in title 26, Part I, the implementing regs for 26 USC 861 for, and only for, the tax imposed under title 1.
26 CFR 31.3401c, it in title 26 part 31 (PART 31–EMPLOYMENT TAXES AND COLLECTION OF INCOME TAX AT SOURCE) http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx…26cfr31_04.html
So, the question is, what type of tax is the IRS trying to impose on your friend? If it's an income tax, that tax still has be to imposed in order to be collected yes/no?
Income taxes are listed under part I
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx…26cfrv1_04.html
You'll notice that there is not 26 CFR 1.3401c. Since there is no implementing regulation, there is not penalty as stated in California Bankers Association v. Shultz 416 US 21
Quote:Because it has a bearing on our treatment of some of the issues raised by the parties, we think it important to note that the Act's civil and criminal penalties attach only upon violation of regulations promulgated by the Secretary; if the Secretary were to do nothing, the Act itself would impose no penalties on anyone.Obviously, the best thing for your friend to do is to do a little more research on this topic, but hopefully this will be a good starting point. There may be a few fine details about your particular situation that I'm not too familiar with, so tread carefully…
cheers
- lchesson wrote on May 16 2005, 06:11 PM:OK, so should one just simply file a 1040NR instaed of a 1040? Does one need to go through all the emancipation steps prior to using a 1040NR?
Any possible ramifications using NR form instead of 1040?
[post=”1449″][/post]Well, if you don't go through the “emancipation” steps (I like to think of it as correcting a blatantly false misbelief), can your justifiably use the 1040NR? After all, you have, on many other occasions, declared that you were in fact a resident or citizen of the [federal] United States. By just using a 1040NR and claiming to be a non-resident for the purposes of taxes while being a citizen of the US for everything else, you certainly don't present a strong case that you're not trying to evade your responsibilities as a “taxpayer”.
If it were me, I'd make sure to cover my bases and make sure everyone knew my correct citizenship status. You may not stop injustice from happening to you, but you'll at least make it harder for them to prosecute and a jury to convict you (in my humble opinion, obviously there are times when it won't make a lick of difference).
Welcome aboard tweety. I can't really attack your questions as is because I think you might be tripped up with the definition of “United States” as used in federal statutes; though you did a pretty good job formulating your questions.
If someone is “physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five” then they seem to be residents of the [federal] United States and thus citizens of the United States. Being a “national” or “state national” as defined in USC 8 1101
(21) The term ?national? means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.
(22) The term ?national of the United States? means
…
(:cool: a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.
Note “state” is lower case, implying that the human being in question is living in one of the 50 states of the union.
As is stated in numerous places, state citizenship and U.S. citizenship are 2 different things and having one does not imply that you automatically have the other (to the best of my knowledge). That is why one can be a “USC ? 1408. Nationals but not citizens of the United States at birth”.
Hope this helps clear things up a bit. You should read Family Guardian Fellowship's document “WhyANational.pdf” or you can also check out originalintent.org for similar but less thorough overviews of the citizenship issues.
take care
- Fiddo wrote on May 15 2005, 02:24 PM:DO J article/release
Okay, so another attempt to silence honesty. I hope that SAP will prevail again as they have done so in the past. As for the crooks.. (doj/irs).. It seems like this is the big push.. I can only wonder what will happen when people get finally fed up..
just wonder what it will take, 35% tax? 45% 80%?? Then people will scream for someone to help them!
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[post=”1443″][/post]There seems to be quite an amount of DOJ/IRS activity in the past week? perhaps they are finally getting REALLY scared that the jig is up.
Remember, first they ignore you… then they laugh… then they fight [we've been here for some time]… then we win.
I refuse to believe people would wait till taxes hit 80%. If it takes that long to wake up the sheeple, our determination will be that much more important to protect ourselves.
