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That is hilarious. I hope a Muslim doesn’t read this and find out who you are. The only thing that would make them happy is killing someone not like them!

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Thank you Bing. Truth compels me.

 

Update so far…

 

I only received 1 reply (in which I don’t understand how he says he does not have jurisdiction concerning my situation) of the 4 letters I sent to the coward and corrupt parasitical bueaucraps. I am praying to the Lord if I should litigate against at least the police officers involved (such is the learning process). If I’m to go that route, I must now get to further researching. Like what court I would do that in, costs, etc.

 

I was spending time with the Lord the other day and praying about this situation. What ended up being put on my heart to start was to write a letter to the officers involved. Attached is a rough draft. 

 

Sometimes we can get fixed on the things of this world and forget that the LORD owns it all and all is accountable to him. Life (as I am learning) is a process of living out by faith the truth God desires to give us and take those opportunities and simply trust him. It is really (to my understanding) not primarily about rights and property (because all belongs to Him), it’s about glorifying Him in all we do. And that the world may see and experience His work through those who sincerely love Him and desire people to come to love Him as well. And it all starts with loving and forgiving others, especially those who wrong us. Enough of my soap boxness. Back to the good fight.

 

 

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Your very welcome.

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As Uncle Gus says: Break out the K-Y for the reaming is a comin.

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Sorry for such a late reply. So many issues that need to be addressed learning to live as a Sovereign. There has been no reply. Typical bureaucratic fashion.

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When my daughter got married we knew about the relationship with the state issue so she was married in a rental church with my father officiating the ceremony. They signed their names in a family bible with the date etc and 2 witnesses.

Now it gets a bit confusing as we did not know that you have to be 18 to get married this way. Our daughter was only 16 at the time.

Now, 2 1/2 years later, she has found that her husband is a sociopathic liar, a drug abuser, adulterer, and has abandoned her and their 2 (plus another one on the way) children. The children have no birth certificate and were born at home.

Can she get divorced? Was she married to begin with? I’m a little confused what it legal and what is lawful and just what kind of a mess we have put her in.

Any help on this topic or direction would be much appreciated.

Thanks so much,

Sage

 

 

 If it is proven that her husband did commit adultery with the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses and diligent inquiry (Duet 19:15-19, then she has biblical grounds for nullifying the marriage (Matt 197-11). Though what Jesus instructs in Matt 19 is from the husband’s perspective I think it could also apply the other way around. Of course all of this only by fervent prayer. Stand strong in living for the Lord, despite the gainsaying of the world and even the state incorporated non profit organizations (pseudo churches) that call themselves ‘churches’.

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Attached is a revised edition. As with many things in life things need to be tweaked from time to time[attachment=465:The Word of God and Income Taxes.pdf]

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'spudbox' wrote on '09:

Yes there is a big difference between saying “I am not a taxpayer, because of x, y, and z”, and “What evidence/witnesses do you have that I am a taxpayer?” One is a legal argument that I am not qualified to make (not being a member of the lawyers union) and therefore is automatically frivolous (no matter how correct it may be). The other is a question that I am asking to understand the basis of an alleged tax obligation. Answer it and I'll gladly pay.

I may be a taxpayer, I don't know. I don't have to know. The burden of proof is on them, and since this is an element of the alleged crime, one has a presumption of innocence. i.e. I am not a taxpayer until proven otherwise.

Likewise with one having taxable income. An IRS agent alleges I have taxable income, prove it. Oh that 3rd party report, I'm sorry but is the person making the report qualified to make the determination? Besides I can depose them as well and impeach the so-called testimony.

Like any strangers making a claim that I owe them money, prove it. If they can, I will pay them.

Agreed!!!

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'Admin' wrote on '09:

I read this online recently “You can file a change of address with your local U.S. Post Office, listing your proper Christian Appellation and family name, followed by your proper mailing location (example no abbreviations, spell out the state entirely, no ZIP Code). Now, if you should receive mail from the IRS, federal or State government, all of which will contain some error in the address (all mail from this sources will contain a ZIP Code), you can cross out the addressee, write “Improper Venue, Return to sender” on the face of the envelope, place an arrow on the envelope, pointing to the return address, and deposit the letter in a mailbox to be returned to the original sender. Legally, you have not received this correspondence, since it was not properly addressed to you as a human being and not “person”. Therefore, no action can lawfully proceed against you, since notice has not been properly served on you.”

Admin do you have that link?

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More IRS silliness. What do they want? Their code has over 9000 pages of gobbledy gook.

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'spudbox' wrote on '08:

I've been pen pals with the IRS for years. They send me fan mail. I offer to pay if they can provide witnesses, facts, and evidence.

Some suggestions, the first from Marc Stevens website and the second a sample of a typical letter I send. I never make arguments only ask questions. I also offer to pay any taxes I may owe, if the IRS can produce evidence of the existence of the alleged obligation.

From: http://www.marcsteve…php?f=29&t=2468

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am in receipt of your Notices of Intent to Levy, copies of which I have enclosed with this letter. I have written to your agency multiple times with regards to resolving this matter. However, I have not received any response to date, and I'm hoping you might take the time to look into this. I am happy to resolve this matter as soon as possible.

Please provide me with a copy of the valid, procedurally proper, executed assessment and all supporting records that were relied upon to make the assessment as well as all documents that identify sources of income used as a basis for the assessment. Upon verification of these records and a valid assessment, I will pay any debt I owe.

I thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.

My usual letters go something like this:

To whom it may concern:

I am in receipt of a Notice CP22E for the Tax Year 2007. This letter is my response informing the IRS that I disagree with the changes mentioned for the following reasons:

1) I was never given the opportunity to appeal the audit.

2) The IRS has refused to produce the witnesses it relied upon with first hand personal knowledge that I am a taxpayer or have taxable income.

3) The IRS has refused to produce the admissible evidence that it relied upon to make the determination that I am a taxpayer or have taxable income.

Please note I am not making any frivolous arguments here, I am simply trying to determine the factual basis the IRS used in making the determination that I have a tax obligation. I want to resolve this matter as quickly as possible and pay any taxes I may owe, but based on the information provided so far I am unable to do so. Please provide the requested information so that this matter may be resolved successfully.

Sincerely

Nice. It is honest and logical to simply ask questions. How can any one fault you if you are looking for honest answers. What can the IRS do with that? Absolutely nothing, even if they are trying to be deceptive.

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'franklin' wrote on '03:

pgb, you wrote…

Quote:

Could anyone give possible suggestions or opinions to correct a 1099-R information return from distribution from a 401k?

Two things…

1. Despite your disclaimer below, you are indeed asking for advice by seeking suggestions on how to correct (do you mean disavow as hearsay?) a distribution from a 401K plan, which is solidly under the jurisdiction of the IRS and its rules and regulations.

2. If you're trying to assert that the 1099-R is hearsay, the canceled check from the distribution is not; it probably has your signature on the back. If it was a direct deposit, it shows up on your bank statement, and if you wrote checks on the distribution, etc., etc. The distribution was certainly not made in cash, but even then you would have had to sign a receipt. In some tangible way you gave your consent and accepted the distribution from an IRS authorized privileged account. When you sought the privilege you consented to the rules.

If you're trying to make a case that the funds in the 401K are not gross income from a trade or business you'll be mired in a contradiction.

If your work is not from a “trade or business” which provides you with gross income, then a 401K is entirely unnecessary because non-trade or business income is not the subject of federal income taxation. In fact, opening a tax-shelter like a 401K is prima facie evidence that you do have gross income from a trade or business and you are simply looking for a better tax result for those funds in the account.

What exactly are you trying to correct?

You are correct, I just lacked the proper way of wording it. The fact that I no longer have a SSN and in past correspondence with the IRS concerning erroneous W-2 reporting and withholding from my ex private employer, I'm still dealing with the IRS (frivolous return penalties, Notice of Levy, etc) To make a long story hopefully short. They have been put on notice about my non resident alien status. I don't use a SSN nor give that to them (I can't it has been rescinded).They have been asked to prove their jurisdiction and how I'm subject to Title 26, amongst other points as well.

I have posted many pdf attachments that would give you a very good picture of what I've gone through and am still going through. At another place on the forum, go to 5.4 Tax Help, 3.Dealing administratively with the IRS – Please give me a reason to keep fighting the IRS.

To acknowledge the 1099 would be to deny everything that I have worked so hard to get out of. It would be like going back into the Lion's Den. And at this point I have not figured out the best way to go about it. I understand your point because, I signed up for the 401(k) I could be liable. By the way they have already taken the tax out anyway. I'm not looking to get money back. Just would like to set things straight for the record if that's possible regardless of what the IRS thinks.

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'Admin' wrote on '03:

The procedures for dealing with IRS form 1099-R:

1. Retirement Account Application Permanent Amendment Notice, Form #04.217- Use this form to: 1. Update your original retirement account application; 2. Remove identifying numbers; 3. Document duress against those making withdrawals; 4. Prevent withholding or information return reporting. Send BEFORE withdrawing the proceeds.

DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/foru…_download&id=16

2. IRA Closure Request: Nontaxpayer, Form #04.216-Use this form only AFTER you have completed up to step 14 of our Path to Freedom, Section 2. It empties your account without reporting or withholding.

DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/foru…_download&id=15

3. Correcting Erroneous IRS Form 1099, Form #04.005 (Form 1099-R is a 1099 form)-how to correct the false 1099 AFTER it is filed.

DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Form…IRSForm1099.htm

FORMS PAGE: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm

As far as who the Demand For Verified Evidence of Lawful Federal Tax Assessment, Form #07.304, the receiving party is obviously the IRS. You ask the following questions:

1. What would be the Notice Number? OMB 1545-0119 2010 Form 1099-R?

ANSWER: The notice would be the ASSESSMENT notice number such as LTR531, LTR3219, etc.

2. What would be the Originating agency? Ex private employer or company that issued the 1099?

ANSWER: The agency person and name within the IRS that sent the assessment notice.

Form #04.005 is NOT used for correcting information returns. You may have this form confused with:

Demand for Verified Evidence of “Trade or Business” Activity: Information Return, Form #04.007

DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Form…Business-IR.pdf

Form #04.007 is what would be sent to the SUBMITTER of the false information return.

Your question does NOT conform with the requirements for asking questions. We went back and edited your post to remove the words “should” or “I”. In the future, please be MUCH more careful how you ask questions because we aren't allowed to give legal advice and this post CANNOT be interpreted as legal advice.

Guide to Asking Questions, Form #09.017

DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Memb…ngQuestions.htm (OFFSITE LINK)

In general, the forms to use in any given situatio are described in the following, which should be read in the entirety and consulted before posting questions of this nature in these forums:

Path to Freedom, Form #09.015

DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Forms/Procs/PathToFreedom.pdf

FORMS PAGE: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm

Thank you very much!

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'franklin' wrote on '12:

Lots of work.

Somehow they still have you in their cross hairs. But, if you ignore them that will be their cue to take action against you. If you feel that you've done everything necessary…you can respond to them any way you wish, as long as you respond. As has been said “Freedom is not a spectator sport”.

I don't know what you mean by being in their cross hairs. And thanks for letting me know that I can proceed however I wish. They are already taking action without any regards to the truth, that is expected. And I certainly have not been sitting around doing nothing (“Freedom is not a spectator sport”). You couldn't tell by all the affidavits I put together? And there are more.

The IRS has defaulted by their silence in not answering my initial affidavits and position. So anything after that is null, void and without affect! That is why I am taking a no response position to their unlawfulness. Like I said it's just going around the block with them. The bottom line contention is this: the IRS believes I'm subject to Title 26. Obviously I don't think I'm subject in any way to Title 26. I gave them my reasons and they never responded to me to let me know if I am in error and how. They are going to try to get me to consent with them in some deceptive way and I refuse to consent to anything they want to do. That is one of their tactics. Been there done that. They will try to squash the truth and make me another example to perpetuate the fear. That will not work with me. The LORD has taught me to not fear man at all if I am walking in the Truth. What an encouragement and blessing.

In God I will put my trust, I will not be afraid of what man can do to me. Psalm 56:11

The fear of man bringeth a snare, but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe. Proverbs 29:25

Ye shall not fear the face of man; for the judgment is God's (excerpt Deut 1:17)

The LORD is my portion saith my soul, therefore I will hope in him. The LORD is good to them that wait for him, to the soul that seeketh him. It is good that a man should both hope and quietly wait for the salvation of the LORD. Lam 3:24-26

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'prollins' wrote on '13:

Praying for you, sir.

Thank you very, very much. I am seeking and waiting on the LORD whether He gives me the OK to litigate and sue the reps at the IRS directly (even though I stated that I'm not interested in going to court), God may indeed want me to. I've been going at it alone so to speak (family. friends, neighbors are too scared, lazy or just don't believe the hoax to team up with). I definitely would need a little help with navigation through the court system. If it's His will, I believe without a shadow of a doubt that He will send the right people.