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Ahhhh…. that sounds like a bad idea, but thanks for asking.
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It says like I said it says.
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Nationality / Nationalite / Nacionalidad
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Hence the inquiry.
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I know it's RFID chipped because it has the RFID-enabled goid icon on the front.
NO, the chip is /not/ underneath the logo. It's embedded into the back page.
Tinfoil is a less effective choice for concealing one's RFID device.
Nowhere does it say, “U.S. citizen”. For Nationality, it says as quoted above.
The passport will still “work” even if the RFID chip fails. They are not exactly heavy duty hardy. I am not responsible for the quality of workmanship, or lack thereof, that went into the design and manufacture of said chip. They are a fool's security anyways, so I certainly won't lose any sleep if it stops working eventually.
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Okay, FIVE AND ONE HALF MONTHS LATER, I have finally received my passport. A few points of interest:
All the times I called and talked to “customer service” minions, and later, with the actual real-live passport agent, none of them ever so much a blinked twice at there not being an SSN associated with my name.
Having no birth certificate was a huge issue. Having no other “breeder documents” or “early public records” just made it worse. I was finally able to acquire a church record which satisfied the issuing agent.
Now, I have a fancy new chipped passport, and this is the first thing I noticed when I opened it up:
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Nationality / Nationalite / Nacionalidad
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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NOT “U.S. CITIZEN”
Does anyone have any comments on this change?
End result, I have a u.s. passport issued with no SSN and no BC, and I did it with “signature not valid without attached document” explaining that I am an American National, not a U.S. citizen.
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I just got the same result with my application. I used the famguardian modified ds-11, attached the lengthy treatise on citizen vs. national, and sent it in. I received today finally the same response as mentioned above:
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It appears from the facts of your birth and the documents you submitted that you are a United States citizen and entitled to a United States passport. In accordance with the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. As supreme law of our land, it cannot be waived by unilateral declaration except as otherwise provided by law.
The statutes governing the issuance of United States passports require that a passport be issued only after the applicant has completed an application and subscribed to it in a manner provided by regulations. Any alteration to the oath contained in the applicaition is unacceptable. Therefore, you cannot be issued a passport unless you submit a properly executed passport application. Upon receipt of the appropriate passport application and the additional documentation, described below, a United States passport will be issued stating that you are a U.S. citizen.
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The statutes applicable to United States passports provide that you may be issued a U.S. passport showing you are a United States citizen. We are not in a position to respond to or enter into a dialogue concerning any views which disagree with the Constitution or the citizenship laws of the United States as interpreted by the courts.
Any legal interpretation you wish to make should be sent to:
Passport Services
Office of Passport Policy and Advisory Services
Washington, D.C. 20522
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Are they tightening the nut on we who wish to remain free?