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The “penalty” is what the legislators created it to be, and that is a penalty. Roberts, et. al., has no right to treat the penalty as anything else. Therefore, he is limited to judging if the penalty is Constitutional, or not. He said that it is NOT Constitutional as a “penalty”. Thus, the law was judged. Roberts, and the Supreme Court, has no right to go further, converting the “penalty” into something else.
Quote:Moral? No. Legal? Yes. But we aren't dealing with a moral entity . . . we are dealing with the Beast and those who worship it. If you want to beat them, you need to learn to play their game. No amount of foot stomping or weeping and wailing claiming “unconstitutional” will EVER make it so in a formal legal proceeding.If the law is not moral it is not lawful.
Quote:The word “sovereign” is defined in the 6th edition of Black's Law Dictionary, published in 1990, as being, “A person, body, or state in which independent authority is vested; a chief ruler with supreme power; a king or other ruler in a monarchy.” Prior to the War for American Independence, the British king was the sovereign and the American people were his subjects. The war's outcome changed all this:The sovereignty has been transferred from one man to the collective body of the people – and he who before was a “subject of the king” is now “a citizen of the State.” State v. Manuel, North Carolina, Vol. 20, Page 121 (1838)
We the sovereigns must demand that our servants act in a lawful manner, or we permit then unreasonable power that leads to tyranny. What Roberts has done is void of reason. Sure, the court have done this for some time. However, we should not justify the fraud.
Quote:We must learn to use the tools the SCOTUS has given us.Or we must learn to use the tools the Creator has given us, it called Common Law arising out of Common Sense. The choice is up to us, for now.
Quote:”Governments are said to be necessary to make men virtuous; but, nowhere are men more corrupt than when they act with the authority of government.” –Paine, Common Sense- Quote:Sorry Larken . . . I agree with Justice Roberts.
I don't think this is correct. The Congress passed the individual mandate as a “penalty”. Thus, that's what it is. It is not within Roberts jurisdiction as a judge to convert the “penalty”, which he say is unconstitutional, into a “tax”. The measure should have been struck down and went back to the legislators to be approved as a “tax”.
We should be attempting to impeach these fools on the Supreme Court who can't seem to read or understand the Constitution, or worse, intentionally betray it. Larken, seems to fail to understand that under our system of government the power resides with the people themselves. The people have every right, hence duty, to obey just laws, and to disobey unjust rules. However, the Supreme law for government is the Constitution, and it supports the above view. The Supreme Court, and every other part of government, functions rightly as servants of the people, you know, public servants.
Quote:”If these Commentaries shall but inspire in the rising generation a more ardent love of their country, an unquenchable thirst for liberty, and a profound reverence for the constitution and the union, then they will have accomplished all that their author ought to desire. Let the American youth never forget that they possess a noble inheritance, bought by the toils, and sufferings, and blood of their ancestors; and capable, if wisely improved, and faithfully guarded, of transmitting to their latest posterity all the substantial blessings of life, the peaceful enjoyment of liberty, property, religion, and independence. The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people in order to betray them.”–JOSEPH STORY, “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States”, 2d ed., vol. 2, chapter 45, p. 617 (1851); Justice Story served in Congress 1808–1809.Clearly, Rose Larken offered solutions, it's just tough to hear them.
Quote:“The experience of past ages may inform us that when the circumstances of a people render them distressed, their rulers generally recur to severe, cruel, and oppressive measures. Instead of endeavoring to establish their authority in the affection of their subjects, they think they have no security but in their fear. They do not aim at gaining their fedelity and obedience by making them flourishing, prosperous, and happy, but by rendering them abject and dispirited. They think it necessary to intimidate and awe them to make every accession to their power, and to impair the people's as much as possible.” –“The Farmer Refuted,” February 5, 1775Each of us should wake up to the propaganda that affects us. In addition, it's scary to try to put solutions into action. Just as it is hard to hold the I.R.S to the law.
Quote:“When men are oppressed more by taxes than by enemies, taxes are unconstitutional.” –Thomas Paine, “Rights of Man”, 14Each one of us must seek to support the law. Instead, it is easier to say that there are no solutions provided. This is the very issue the Larken video is highlighting.
Here is the solution.
Quote:”The principles contained in the Declaration of Independence are saving principles. Stand by those principles; be true to them on all occasions, in all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost.” –Frederick Douglass.Here's the deal:
Quote:“The spirit of the times may alter, will alter. Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless…From the conclusion of this war we shall be going downhill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore…will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion.” –Thomas Jefferson, “Notes on Virginia” (1781).Wow!
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In my humble opinion, I do not believe that getting involved in government will affect your ability to be a member of this site. Good people should be involved in government, people who take their oath to serve the public seriously! This entire site is devoted to understanding the lawful roll of government, and public servants. Get the position and be a blessing to the community that you serve.
Regardless of what the U.N. [background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]Small [/background][background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]Arms Treaty states, it will likely be enforced like the “income” tax. Thus, we should resist it at every turn.[/background]
This is good news. 😀
We need to speak out against this TSA crime. Rand Paul has a recent bill in the Senate. We should support these, and other efforts to reign in these unlawful practices.
Unfortunately, Lauryn Hill has been mis-educated!
I wil miss him and his legal wit, greatly.
R.I.P. Mr. Cryer
- Quote:Say a prayer for Irwin Schiff today and keep him in your thoughts.
Wil do, good buddy.
It's time to Impeach the President! It is time to get rid of the tyrants. This is treason! Obama has violated article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution.
Quote:Coup D’etat: Pentagon & Obama Declare Congress CeremonialCongressman Jones introduces bill that would subject Panetta & Obama to impeachment
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Thursday, March 8, 2012
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s testimony asserting that the United Nations and NATO have supreme authority over the actions of the United States military, words which effectively declare Congress a ceremonial relic, have prompted Congressman Walter Jones to introduce a resolution that re-affirms such behavior as an “impeachable high crime and misdemeanor” under the Constitution.
During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing yesterday, Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey brazenly admitted that their authority comes not from the U.S. Constitution, but that the United States is subservient to and takes its marching orders from the United Nations and NATO, international bodies over which the American people have no democratic influence.
Panetta was asked by Senator Jeff Sessions, “We spend our time worrying about the U.N., the Arab League, NATO and too little time, in my opinion, worrying about the elected representatives of the United States. As you go forward, will you consult with the United States Congress?”
The Defense Secretary responded “You know, our goal would be to seek international permission. And we would come to the Congress and inform you and determine how best to approach this, whether or not we would want to get permission from the Congress.”
Despite Sessions’ repeated efforts to get Panetta to acknowledge that the United States Congress is supreme to the likes of NATO and the UN, Panetta exalted the power of international bodies over the US legislative branch.
“I’m really baffled by the idea that somehow an international assembly provides a legal basis for the United States military to be deployed in combat,” Sessions said. “I don’t believe it’s close to being correct. They provide no legal authority. The only legal authority that’s required to deploy the United States military is of the Congress and the president and the law and the Constitution.”
In an effort to re-affirm the fact that “the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution,” Republican Congressman Walter Jones has introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives.
The full text reads;
Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
Under the terms of Jones’ resolution, both Panetta and Obama would be subject to impeachment for abusing their power and violating the Constitution in disregarding the authority of Congress and placing a foreign power above its jurisdiction.
Despite the Pentagon’s efforts to claim that Panetta’s words were misinterpreted, the Obama administration itself has routinely cited the authority of the United Nations in relation to last year’s invasion of Libya, which was conducted without approval from Congress.
In June last year, President Obama arrogantly expressed his hostility to the rule of law when he dismissed the need to get congressional authorization to commit the United States to a military intervention in Libya, churlishly dismissing criticism and remarking, “I don’t even have to get to the Constitutional question.”
Obama tried to legitimize his failure to obtain Congressional approval for military involvement by sending a letter to Speaker of the House John Boehner in which he said the military assault was “authorized by the United Nations (U.N.) Security Council.”
In boldly asserting the authority of international powers over and above the legislative branch, Panetta and Obama are openly declaring that they no longer represent the American people and instead are water carriers for a global dictatorship that has usurped the sovereignty of the United States.
http://www.infowars.com/coup-detat-pentagon-obama-declare-congress-ceremonial/
Emphasis added.
Let's call for impeachment.
Quote:”He would not enter office by corrupt ways if he did not intend to deal corruptly from it.” –[L] Sidney, “Discourses, c. 2, § 24, p.225
