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rattler14:

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With all of my recent 'education' on the IRS tax fraud, I was damn sure that my convinctions would put me in danger first before every and all of my sheeple friends and family.

I was wrong.

It turns out, unbeknownest to me, my grandmother went crazy dealing with the IRS and their prying into her retirement funds.

It is wonderful to see that many people are resisting the Internal Revenue Service (Serpents), and other corruption, independently, without waiting to be told.

Hopefully, we can become more effective with the help of forums such as this.

I wish you and your grandmother well. 😛

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Great work Sonic. Thank-you very much!!!

-BOBT12

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“The Man Made Plagues” appears to be a must read e-book.

Like rattler14:

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As evil as the I know the government is, this just seems like TOO much. I am in complete shock and disbelief, that said, I have purchased your e-book and will read it before I make up my mind.

I am overwhelmed with the information that Pastor Mike Treis has uncovered in his e-book “The Man Made Plaques”. However, it certainly seems to ring true regarding the cases that have already been publicly revealed by various sources in the past such as:

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The infamous Tuskegee University syphilis study, a U.S. Public Health Service project examining the course of untreated syphilis in black men, was based there from the 1930s.-Copyright ?1994-2003 Encyclopedia Britannica, Inc.

or MK-ULTRA/MK-SEARCH which was supposed to be developed in order to:

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The project's goal was to produce a perfect truth drug [LSD] for use in interrogating suspected Soviet spies during the Cold War, and generally to explore any other possibilities of mind control. Experiments were often conducted without the subjects' knowledge or consent. The project was headed by Dr. Sidney Gottlieb.

However, somehow the LSD ended up on college campuses in the 60s, in the hands of the students. I wonder how and why that happened!

Now it is plain to see why the corrupt office holders want to give the unsuspecting public Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) and VeriChips…so that they can collect them for the modern day Dr. Josef Mengele.

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Mengele's nickname was Beppo; he was called the Angel of Death by camp inmates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengele

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=361

So are these the benefits the beast has in store for all who worship him?

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=307

We don’t need to go to Iraq to get rid of Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), let’s clean up our own back yard.

However, the master may need new subjects soon?

What good has this awful type of research delivered to this nation? How long should We the People put up with these wanton types of unlawful actions from our elected officials? How can anyone hope to gain from such evil, and not hope to be consumed by it at the same time? It should be clear that these measures put all of us at risk. The cure is worse than the disease. This evil research must be stopped NOW!!!

I hope and pray that many will get, read, and plan action around this book “The Man Made Plagues”, and get the nation off of this depraved path.

[BOBT12]

VeriChip/RFID Chip Update:Is Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) coming to a school near you?

Here are a few articles that I hope will enlighten the freedom minded, and help us to direct our efforts to curb government corruption and abuse of power.

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Elementary school nixes electronic IDs

Published: February 17, 2005, 2:14 PM PST

By Alorie Gilbert

Staff Writer, CNET News.com

An elementary school in the rural town of Sutter, Calif., has pulled the plug on a new student surveillance system after the technology came under fire by parents and privacy groups.

However, the school’s principal Earnie Graham says he

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regrets the demise of the program…It's a tremendous loss…We had the opportunity to be on the cutting edge.

The cutting edge to what end? To track state property?

Other have wisely observed:

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“Monitoring children with radio frequency identification (RFID) tags is a very bad idea,” Cedric Laurant, policy counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said in a statement. “It treats children like livestock or shipment pallets,” he said, “thereby breaching their right to dignity and privacy they have as human beings. Any small gain in administrative efficiency and security is not worth the money spent and the privacy and dignity lost.”

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In addition:

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Drivers who sign up for quick-pay toll programs use similar devices to quickly cruise by toll booths. RFID technology has recently found its way into chain stores, passports, casinos and libraries.

http://news.com.com/Elementary+school+nixe…_3-5581275.html

Update on the progress of the VeriChip

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The man with the RFID arm

Published: February 15, 2005, 5:16 PM PST

By Michael Kanellos

Staff Writer, CNET News.com

reporter's notebook To many, implanting radio frequency ID chips into humans is the face of impending Orwellianism. But to be honest, it looks like a mosquito bite.

Joseph Krull, an executive at Flanders, N.J.-based Virtual Corp., had a doctor stick an RFID tag from VeriChip under his skin on Jan. 10. The residual blemish amounts to a small red dot…Under-the-skin RFID tags have emerged as one of the most controversial technologies of the past few years. Privacy advocates have asserted that private information from the radio tags could be intercepted by corporations and identity thieves. Fears that governments could exploit the chips for tagging a person's whereabouts have alarmed libertarians and those with strong religious beliefs.

http://news.com.com/The+man+with+the+RFID+…_3-5578023.html

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RFID tags: The people say no

September 7, 2004, 4:00 AM PT

By Michael Kanellos?

When it comes to radio frequency identification tags for humans, the people have spoken.

They hate it.

http://news.com.com/RFID+tags+The+people+s…478.html?tag=nl

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The flip side of database snooping

February 7, 2005, 4:00 AM PT

By Declan McCullagh

Adm. John Poindexter, the Bush administration official responsible for the Total Information Awareness project, is not exactly chastened by Congress's pulling the plug on his idea. “One of the remarkable things about ideas is that once you surface an idea, and it is a good idea, in the long term there is very little that can be done to stop it,” Poindexter says of his proposals for aggressive data mining. “So I am convinced that research and development will continue, one way or another.” Poindexter even hints that money for similar efforts remains buried deep within the Pentagon's budget.

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http://news.com.com/The+flip+side+of+datab…_3-5563897.html

As Rick Montgomery of the Kansas City Star (11/24/2002) article “Big Brother? Or weapon against terror?” states:

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Buy medicine, and a federal database fattens. Earn a B in chemistry, and it is stored somewhere, ready to be accessed by authorities…A global supercomputer may have you bookmarked[beastmarked?]. Nonetheless, the awarding of research contracts and the stepped-up marketing of Total Information Awareness have critics of various political shades serving up their own phrase: ‘Big Brother.’…Most troubling to some is the prospect of one government overseeing so much data on the lives of so many people, most of them innocent.

Here, we see that the corrupt Adm. John Poindexter is admitting that he will not follow the will of the Congress or the People. Why should this convicted Iran – Contra conspirator hold any public office? Observe how he wants to fund the Total Information Awareness project with money apparently from the Pentagon's budget “Black Budget” that is alleged to have billions and billions of tax-dollors, yet, no Constitutional oversight. See how Adm. John Poindexter acts like this project is his private kingdom, and he will claim his subjects, for himself and his master(s).

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Power corrupts, absolute power, corrupts absolutely. –unknown

Enjoy.

For more on this and related topics:

http://www.privacy.org/

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=361

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I can’t see that it is good to identify yourself even by giving your name, so that the police can check it in the Orwellian machine.

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Or•well•i•an? ? (?r-w l? – n)

adj.

Of, relating to, or evocative of the works of George Orwell, especially the satirical novel 1984, which depicts a futuristic totalitarian state.

Source: The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

Copyright ? 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

How can I be sure that there are no outstanding warrants, secret or otherwise; or that some official has not entered some criminal evidence against me, such as, liens, levy, tickets, court orders, so on and so forth. The case Hiibel v. Dist. Ct., 118 Nev. Adv. Op. No. 88 (12/20/2002), seem to confirm how “We the People” must labor under judicial corruption. The Fifth Amendment states:

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nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Harry Browne, the director of public policy at the American Liberty Foundation, said:

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The Constitution isn't written in Chinese, Swahili, or Esperanto. It is in plain English. We don't need anyone to translate or interpret for us. It isn't even necessary to study the history of the adoption of the Constitution, since there's nothing mysterious about its words.

Phrases like “make no law” or “shall not be infringed” or “retained by the people” or “reserved to” are comprised of everyday words that require no search for “original intent” or “penumbras.”

The Constitution means what it says it means — or it means nothing at all. And any judge who overrules the plain English of the Constitution is no judge at all — whether he's been appointed by a Republican or a Democrat.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-…RTICLE_ID=13239

You can read more of his articles and find out about his network radio show at http://www.HarryBrowne.org

Preventing the Corruption of Power:

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“No government can continue good, but under the control of the people.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1819. ME 15:234

“Unless the mass retains sufficient control over those entrusted with the powers of their government, these will be perverted to their own oppression, and to the perpetuation of wealth and power in the individuals and their families selected for the trust.” –Thomas Jefferson to M. van der Kemp, 1812. ME 13:136

“No other depositories of power [but the people themselves] have ever yet been found, which did not end in converting to their own profit the earnings of those committed to their charge.” –Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:71

“We fear that [violations of the Constitution] may produce insurrection. Nothing could be so fatal. Anything like force [used against the violators] would check the progress of the public opinion and rally them round the government. This is not the kind of opposition the American people will permit. But keep away all show of force and they will bear down the evil propensities of the government by the constitutional means of election and petition.” –Thomas Jefferson to Edmund Pendleton, 1799. ME 10:105

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/T…on/jeff0350.htm

We all want to avoid government tyranny, knowingly or otherwise. The government tells us we must do it, or else! Thus, we sign up for drivers, business, marriage licenses, ect. Who wants to risk being arrested by the police for standing up for our rights, granted by the Creator, such as the right to travel freely, or not incriminating ourselves.

Yet, a license indicate that we have done something wrong , even though the facts don’t support such a claim.

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license, n. 1. A revocable permission to commit some act that would otherwise be unlawful

Black’s Law Dictionary, Seventh Edition.

As Joshua Hansen states:

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Assuming that everyone is already a danger and by telling us we must have a license to drive is known better as 'prior restraint' and according to the U.S. Supreme Court is unconstitutional.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article….RTICLE_ID=16772

However, the corrupt office holders will not stop with forcing We the People to submit to the Department of Transportation, the IRS, DOJ, Selective Service, your state and local oppressors, and on and on. The deal that the corrupt office holders offer We the People is simple: do what we tell you or go to prison, behind bars, otherwise, you are free to enjoy your “open air” prison. As anyone can see herein, the corruption will keep stealing our freedoms until there is nothing left, until the public’s “substance is eaten out” and they are merely shells of beings, nothing more!

I see no other alternative but to consider taking action as Ichesson indicated:

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Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian Party's 2004 presidential candidate, doesn't shy away from the fact that he does NOT have a Driver's License, nor does he put tags on his car… but wouldn't it be fun to tell the cops that you don't need a license and to just buzz off?

As HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS, BEFORE THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 9, 2005 states:

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This legislation gives authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to expand required information on driver’s licenses, potentially including such biometric information as retina scans, finger prints, DNA information, and even Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) radio tracking technology. Including such technology as RFID would mean that the federal government, as well as the governments of Canada and Mexico, would know where Americans are at all time of the day and night.

It is time to take the red pill:

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Are you ready for your eyes and understanding to be opened so you can see the full extent of how the “American Matrix” shapes everything in your current life??

“None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.”

by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Are you ready to become a “Free” American or do you prefer to continue to live in a blissful slumber within the “American Matrix”?? Most Americans ignorantly believe they live in the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave” but they are far from Free and in some ways have less freedoms than most other countries of the world.

http://famguardian.org/Publications/HOALPH/HOALPH.htm

I am sure that I will tremble as I take action of this sort, yet, with RFID technology about to mark us like dogs, the time has come for us all to contemplate taking measures such as these. 🙁

[BOBT12]

And ponder I will. Thanks JWR.

[BOBT12]

Bing:

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Why not simply use a USA passport as one's ID?

Dear Mr. Bing, please let me know how We the People are better off by being required to produce any documents for the government? Don?t all of these requirements impinge upon our Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution?

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V – Provisons concerning prosecution

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

[emphasis added]

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/rights1.htm#5

It appears that the U.S. passport will suffer from the same problem as discussed regarding ?HR 418- A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform?:

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(CNN) — A controversy is brewing over a U.S. State Department decision to put identification chips inside all new passport covers, a program scheduled to start by late 2005.

The passport chips differ from those now commonly used for building entry or identifying the family dog. Those chips only provide one piece of information — a unique identification number — when pinged by a radio receiver.

The passport chips will hold much more data, from 64 kilobytes to eventually 514 kilobytes, as much as the first personal computers. They will hold the same information as a paper passport plus a digitized photo and face template for the still-unproven facial recognition software, which also is supposed to identify you from a distance, unnoticed.

The fact that passport data can be read unencrypted, with no physical contact, from up to 30 feet away, according to the American Civil Liberties Union, upsets privacy advocates for two reasons.

First, groups such as the ACLU note that information on your activities could be collected by government agencies (or commercial and marketing interests) without your knowledge…Second, many people are concerned that criminal or terrorist “data-skimmers” could set up chip readers to grab information from your passport and find out more about you, or “clone” your information and make fake passports, again without your knowledge.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/01/06/passports/

Aren't these tools of the American Gestapo?:

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Published on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 by Capitol Hill Blue

Welcome to the American Gestapo

by Doug Thompson

Wonder if any of the vast sums of money approved Tuesday for the new Department of Homeland Security are set aside for black uniforms with knee-length boots and black leather trench coats?

Should be. Since we?ve gone to all this trouble to create the new American Gestapo we might as well let them look the part.

Excuse me if I don?t join in all the senseless celebration over creation of yet another mammoth bureaucracy of the federal government. Pardon me if I don?t go ga-ga over a federal agency that has been given unlimited powers to spy on Americans, trample all over the First and Fourth Amendments, ignore the privacy of anyone it chooses and violate the rights of every man, woman and child who used to live in the Land of the Free.

Our own paranoia has accomplished what Osama bin Laden and his minions could not with hijacked airplanes and vague threats about future attacks ? these fears have forced America to abandon its principles and create a police state.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1121-03.htm

As for myself, I will endeavor to walk about the land as a freeman! 😎

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As we know this “HR 418- A National ID Bill” is as voluntary as the IRS income tax scam and Social Security Administration's enumeration at birth hoax.

Those who control the mass media must feel that the public will not support this national ID scam, otherwise it would be on every newspaper's front page, radio and TV news and talk show. Yet, I am just hearing about it, why was there no word on this weeks ago?

I hope this will push more of the “sheeple” to wake up, before there are Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chips in their heads, not in their hands. This should show clearly that those who pass bills like this have no concern for the public, except to make them slaves. 😮

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Those who are corrupt and who are currently in power will not correct themselves! Be they occupying the office of President, Congress, or in judicial positions, etc.

We the People must accomplish this terrible, and terribly important, mission.

Let?s examine the preamble of the federal constitution:

PREAMBLE

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We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[url url=”http://http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/usconst.htm”]http://http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/usconst.htm[/url]

We must do our part to rid ourselves of tyranny, whether that means voting, or taking other actions, to get the wrongdoer out of office, and achieve the goals stated above. This action may take many forms such as, yet not limited to, stopping contributions to legal plunder, such as holding your taxes like Robert Shults of We the People, Inc. (We the People v. U.S. Government) http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/SignPetitions.htm, thus, making you more able to carry out your wishes, and the wrongdoer less able to do what he/she does best. That is to use unjust force and oppression against We the People.

Let look to Mahatma Gandhi for a non-violent guidance:

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Gandhi may truly be said to be the prophetic voice of the twentieth century. Violence inflicts upon its practitioners physical and spiritual wounds; the way of non-violence, said Gandhi, “blesses him who uses it and him against whom it is used.”2 Again, “non-violence is the law of our species as violence is the law of the brute. The spirit lies dormant in the brute and he knows no law but that of physical might. The dignity of man requires obedience to a higher law — to the strength of the spirit.”3 Let us be sure we do not misunderstand the philosophy of non-violence embodied in Gandhi's life and teachings. A practitioner of the non-violent way of life, far from being passive, is the most active person in the world. He is ready to join the fray -non-violently — wherever and whenever there is injustice or wrong. He neither tolerates nor compromises with injustice, wrong, tyranny, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship. His task in life is not to destroy the evildoer but to redeem and to convert the evildoer by love. ” 'With malice toward none,…

Mahatma Gandhi: Peaceful Revolutionary, by Haridas T. Muzumdar

The truth may set us free:

GANDHI ON TRUTH :

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Truth alone will endure; all the rest will be swept away before the tide of time….What may appear as truth to one person will often appear as untruth to another person. But that need not worry the seeker….Truth and untruth often co-exist; good and evil often are found together….Use truth as your anvil, nonviolence as your hammer and anything that does not stand the test when it is brought to the anvil of truth and hammered with nonviolence, reject it….An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.

http://whatwouldgandhido.net/

Click here for more information!

However the French and American revolutions, and other conflicts, show that violent action is sometimes necessary to achieve freedom. Let us pray this is not the current case!

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The King himself seemed to be encouraging a fight. A final Congressional entreaty to peace last year was answered in cold language by George III. “The lines have been drawn,” he wrote. “Blows must decide.”

By the spring of this year [1774], the idea of independence had caught fire throughout the colonies. Royal governments were ousted one after another up and down the eastern seaboard, and colonial assemblies began drafting their own constitutions. The idea of freedom seem to intoxicate everyone.

Americans are now faced with the consequences of their action. British troops have withdrawn from Boston and are said to be on their way to New York. General George Washington and the Continental Army are marching there to greet them. Only time will tell whether the force of Jefferson's language will be matched by American force in the field.

http://www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/chronicle_…elphia1776.html

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The war [circa 1760 war with France and Britain] had begun with a skirmish in the wilderness between French troops and American colonials led by young George Washington, whose description of the affair revealed that his interest in war lay in the opportunities it offered for honorable and gallant action. Honor and gallantry did not die in the next few years, though large numbers of English, American, and French soldiers and Indians did.

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=84633734

Of course the wrongdoers (DOJ, IRS, etc.) are strong and many of those who resist suffer persecution, such as Mr. Irwin Schiff, Mr. Joseph Banister http://www.freedomabovefortune.com/, Mr. Al Thompson http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Mi…ThompsonOut.htm, Dick Simkanin http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/si…ate02-29-04.htm and many more.

Yet, We the People must resist anyway!

WTP website:

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In 1517, Martin Luther nailed his ?95 Theses of Contention? to the front door of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany.

This single, bold gesture openly challenged the doctrine of the Catholic Church and set off an unforeseen chain of events which came to be known as the ?Reformation.? The effects of Luther's action that day would forever alter Western Civilization's perception of the authority of the Church ? and in practical terms, call into question the very authority of the state.

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Luther was consequently summoned to appear before a tribunal of the church-state hierarchy, and was ordered to recant his damaging assertions.

In response he uttered, ?Unless I am convinced by proofs from Scriptures or by plain and clear reasons and arguments, I can and will not retract, for it is neither safe nor wise to do anything against conscience. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.?

Several years later, Luther went on to translate and publish the first non-Greek-Latin version of the New Testament, enabling average Europeans, for the first time, to study and comprehend the ?hidden mysteries? of the Church.

It's time to take a page from Luther's book.

It's time to challenge IRS doctrine by posting a message on its front doors

http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005-02-02.htm

GANDHI ON TRUTH

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The quest of truth involves self-suffering, sometimes even unto death.

We the People still have power of large numbers who don't consciously agree with the current state of affairs. Because they are ignorant thus, they did not sign on to the current program, and may be made aware of what is going on, and decide to join the rebellion.

Let us rebel against tyrants, war-mongers, thieves and all other wrongdoers, who would usurp the power of We the People.

Those who have some understanding of the truth may choose to enlighten others:

Just enlighten one per year, and they do the same, you may have 67 million supporters in 20 plus years;

Just enlighten one per decade, and they do the same, you may have 67 million supporters in 200 plus years. This seems to be the choice the other side has made. Therefore, if we are to succeed we must strive to carry our agenda through the generations.

In the end the question everyone must ask themselves, do I (We the People) want to live free to practice good works, or do we want to be slaves to an evil master?

All actions begin with the ability to speak freely! First, speak to yourself, then to others.

BOBT12

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Commercial Speech, how it affects lives of ?We the People? <_<

This article is in response to the issue of Commercial Speech, how it affects the lives of ?We the People?, like Mr. Irwin Schiff' and his patriotic battle with regard to the free distribution of his book “The Federal Mafia: How The Government Illegally Imposes and Unlawfully Collects Income Taxes”. It has been pointed out by some, even in the honesty movement that feel like Sonik Speed, he says ?that Mr. Schiff?s major weakness was ?commercial speech?.

There may be Supreme Court rulings regarding Commercial Speech that are unfavorable to Mr. Schiff. However, the CONSTITUTION, for the United States of America, AMENDMENT I states,? Congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; of the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” that is all that it says folks.

There is no mention of Commercial Speech, thus, there is no such thing as Commercial Speech! The Supreme Court is in error if it has ruled otherwise, CONSTITUTION, AMENDMENT X “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Therefore, the only way to read or interpret the CONSTITUTION is in a strict or very literal, unadorned way. If the framers of the CONSTITUTION wanted a restriction on Commercial Speech they would have put it in the CONSTITUTION. Yet, they did not! Additionally the Bill of Rights was added to insure that there would be no government restriction on speech, period!

And finally, here is why I am certain that this is the case:

CONSTITUTION, Article VI, Section [2] This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding”.

Of course there are penalties if one's speech is fraudulent, one can be sued for slander, libel, and any number of other offences, where an individual(s) suffers harm.

However, it is not the Government?s job to stifle speech, and this is exactly what we are seeing with Mr. Schiff's persecution. News papers around the country sell their product, often for profit, thus, it would appear to come under the current dogma of Commercial Speech. Yet, isn't this the “freedom of the press” that the framers of the CONSTITUTION were intent upon protecting?

It should be noted that one of the signers of the CONSTITUTION, Benjamin Franklin, was a publisher, for profit, a large part of his life. Franklin, I am sure, felt the tyranny of King George regarding his ideas of a free America when he said

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“If we don?t hang together, we will surely hang separately”.

Franklin and the other signers did not want to create a monstrous federal government that would inspire the fear and ignorance that is the cornerstone of the federal government today.

I think that we are doing the truth a disservice by not pointing out what the CONSTITUTION says, and accepting the decisions of those in high positions, who, by their actions, are eroding the CONSTITUTION and freedom of the individual to act on the rights given to us by the Creator. Those who are in a position to know the truth, yet, knowingly act against it, we should ridicule. Those who jail, and persecute the innocent, and free the criminal, we should revile.

Mr. Schiff IS free, under the CONSTITUTION, to sell, give away, or speak as he chooses, regardless of subject matter, whether it is Commercial Speech, Law, or how to make chicken scratch. And “We the People” ARE free to listen, or not.

If Mr. Schiff's information is fraudulent, and has hurt someone, let them come forward and address Mr. Schiff with the facts. As it has been pointed out that the 9th Circuit Court did not logically show where Mr. Schiff's material was fraudulent and, thus, he should not have been open to attack under the Commercial Speech argument in any case. As Sonic Speed says,

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“This is another example of how our judicial system has become corrupted”.

Of course, I feel that the Commercial Speech Doctrine itself is a great example of judicial corruption.

As I have pointed out above, it is not the job of the government to protect us from speech. It is our job to do that. To say otherwise is to say that “We the People” are not capable of self-government. That we are children, fools, and slaves to the Government. A Government which has displayed a total disregard for carrying out its duty, as outlined in the CONSTITUTION, a Government that spawns wars based on lies (the war on Iraq), etc.

I want to thank Author #2 for providing such a wonderful site. And thanks to all of you who are adding richness to the site with your labor of love for truth and freedom.