BOBT12
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It seems that the American Gestapo is picking up speed. There is almost no time to adjust, abductions, prosecutions, Real ID Act, etc. When will our side get a brake?
rattler14, thanks for the ?heads-up? on ?HR 418- A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform?.
By the way, here?s a little update on the condition of the police state at privacy.org:
Quote:D.C. Police Gather Data on Those Who Don't Violate LawsWashington, D.C., police have a practice of recording information at traffic safety checkpoints on violators and law-abiding motorists alike — and sometimes their passengers. This has garnered little attention since police began entering such data into a computer in 2002. Few, if any, of the more than 100 people pulled over almost nightly at the five or six checkpoints in high-crime areas realize that their names and whereabouts will end up in a database?Washington Post, May 2, 2005.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte…0100848_pf.html
Thanks for the update Sonic. This is sour news, even more so, since I have a case currently pending.
For more:
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=435&hl=
Please keep up the good work.
Dear Author #2:
I totally agree with JWR:
Quote:To correct you on two things, 1) there is nothing to buy on Family Guardian and 2) it is the love of money that is the root of all evil. Since I have known of Family Guardian there has never been anything for sale here. All anyone has to do is read his disclaimer. This is just more government bull***.JWR
Also, I just want to mention that I am currently in the process of suing my former bank for responding to a ?Notice of Levy? from the IRS in 2003. The case is in the preliminary objection phase. I have handled one other suit and my history suggests that this is the point that the case is often dismissed. I want to thank you, Richard Luke Cornforth, and Johnny Liberty, and others for the information that I am using in preparing this suit. Everyone should do as their heart tells them. For More Information regarding this issue:
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=270
Of course like everyone here, I wish you well in your current engagement with the government (Vipers and Asps) and/or quasi-government (Internal Revenue Service, Department of Revenue, etc.). It certainly seems that there is a concerted effort to crush the opposition, more than usual, at this time. 🙁
I hope that everyone gets to see the speech by David Ray Griffin on C-SPAN tomorrow:
Quote:The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and DistortionsDavid Ray Griffin
Description: David Ray Griffin takes a critical look at the official 9/11 Commission Report. Professor Griffin argues that “omissions and distortions” in the report amount to a cover-up by government officials and says that the available evidence suggests that the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Professor Griffin covers topics he says have been inadequately answered by the commission. These include questions surrounding the attack on the Pentagon, the way in which the World Trade Center towers collapsed, and the behavior of President Bush and his Secret Service detail following notification that a second plane had hit the WTC. The talk was hosted by the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth (www.mujca.com) and took place at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Includes Q&A.
Author Bio: David Ray Griffin is professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology, where he taught for over 30 years (retiring in 2004). He has authored or edited over two dozen books, including “God and Religion in the Postmodern World,” “Religion and Scientific Naturalism,” and “The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11.”
EDIT: be sure to catch the re-airing of Griffin's speech in Madison, WI on CSPAN May 7th (Saturday) at 2:30pm EST!
emphisis added.
http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/proper-r…in-madison.html
David Ray Griffin?s two books, ?THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT: Omissions and Distortions?and ?THE NEW PEARL HARBOR? seem to factually point out the strange circumstances surounding September 11, 2001. And Griffin makes a strong case linking many of these factual oddities to the Bush administration.
Since the Bush administration currently has many wars in progress, Iraq and Afganistan are the most notable, with plans to possibly engage many other countries such as Iran, China, Syria, North Korea, and perhaps many more, isn?t it time that we each look at the causes which appearently put the nation on its present course?
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It looks like the ?HR 418- A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform? is have difficulty passing the senate, so it seems that the same or simular REAL ID will come through the Social Security cards:
Quote:Bill calls for encrypted Social Security cardsLawmaker sees proposal as a way to thwart illegal immigrants and would-be terrorists
Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau
Wednesday, May 4, 2005
Washington — With Congress poised to make it virtually impossible for illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, Republican leaders are preparing another crackdown on undocumented workers — legislation to mandate a high-tech, counterfeit-proof Social Security card that would be required to get a job.
The politicians don?t want the public to think that it is a national ID bill. It just acts like a national ID bill (it acts like what it is?):
Quote:“It's not a national ID card,'' he said. “It will only be required for people looking for a new job.''His proposal also specifies that the new cards would carry the wording: “This card shall not be used for the purpose of identification.''
Social Security cards issued from 1946 to 1972 had similar wording, according to the Social Security Administration. Since the program's start in 1936, 415 million cards have been issued, with about 5.5 million new cards issued annually in recent years.
I feel so much better, I only need the card if I want to eat!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file…MNGJOCJN2C1.DTL
Here is another Patriot Act (I, II, ect.) treat, ?THEN THEY CAME FOR THE CHILDREN?. This article clearly demonstrates the dangerous path that the New World Order is cutting:
Quote:Feds Arrest Girls for Teen SnottinessThey've vanished into the netherworld of a Homeland Security gulag and their story has already disappeared from the headlines, but the shocking case of two 16-year-old girls from New York City arrested a month ago ought to inspire outrage among every American worthy of the name. Since the government's reasons for the girls' imprisonment could apply to virtually any teenager, it should also spark fear.
emphasis added.
http://www.uexpress.com/printable/print.ht…426&uc_comic=ru
Big Brother at work, here is a nice article regarding Watch-list 'justice' (Gun Control), By John R. Lott, Jr. and Sonya D. Jone:
Quote:Ultimately, though, despite all the fears generated, background checks simply aren't the solution. The federal Brady Act has been in effect for 11 years and state background checks even longer. But despite all the academic research that has been done, a recent National Academy of Sciences report could not find any evidence — not a single published academic study — that background checks reduce any type of violent crime. [emphasis added]? ? Surely, it would be nice if these regulations worked. But it's hard to believe they will be any more successful stopping terrorists. Criminals and terrorists share much in common, starting with the fact that what they are doing is illegal. In addition, terrorists are probably smarter and engage in vastly more planning than your typical criminal, thus making the rules even less likely to be successful.
? People need to remind themselves that a “watch list” is only that. It is not even probable cause. If you had probable cause that these suspects had done something illegal, you could arrest them. [emphasis added]
? ? Ironically, during the hearing, Mr. Kennedy spent most of his question time concerned that foreign combatants held in Guantanamo were not treated by the military with the respect that the FBI uses to handle American criminals. At the same time, he believes Americans can lose their rights to own a gun without an evidentiary hearing. Democrats may think that people on “watch lists” should be denied their rights to own a gun, but what is next? Why not just make the system much “more efficient” and simply put all people “watch lists” directly in prison? [emphasis added]
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050…03542-3460r.htm
It is clear the Thomas Reed was correct about the government?s ability to cure every problem in creation,
Quote:One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation.Thomas B. Reed (1886)
It is time to take another look at the 2nd Amendment:
Quote:The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.Thomas Jefferson
Let us reflect on the following in view of the ill-conceived Patriot Act (I,II,ect.):
Quote:All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)
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Thanks again Sonik, and everyone, this active discussion is producing real benefits, I believe, to the whole community of this forum.
Author #2, thanks for your recommendation with regard to the ? Full Text Decisions of the United States Supreme Court?. I have recently received the InfoSynthesis, Inc. disk.
-Bob
- Quote:Great stuff Bob… I'm sorry for being such a dummy about this all, I was merely “awakened” to the american matrix back in September after watching the online constitution classes by Michael Badnarik. Since then, I've been voraciously reading and catching up!
Thanks for your kind words rattler14, I am sure that you are aware that you need not apologize to me at all. We all must ?wake? up in one way or another. I thank you for being so forthright in your comments.
Moreover, your comments here and on other topics such as your family, as the quote below reveals, got me to think about my situation on a deeper level:
Quote:With all of my recent 'education' on the IRS tax fraud, I was damn sure that my convinctions would put me in danger first before every and all of my sheeple friends and family.I was wrong.
It turns out, unbeknownest to me, my grandmother went crazy dealing with the IRS and their prying into her retirement funds. Essentially, they know she has X number of dollars from when her husband died which is locked away in all of these investments… they apparently have been sending her letters every 3 months demanding information about this, that, and the other thing.
My grandma, being one that doesn't like to burden others, refused to tell any of us these problems. Well, a few years of absolute fear of the government latching on to her money…
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh…st=0&#entry1266
Sometime ago I got into a general discussion of how and why things are the way they are at this present time, with members of my family (brother, father, grandmother, aunt, etc.).
For many of the reasons that you have mentioned above, either I doubt that the family wanted to hear what my controversial thoughts may be on a particular issue, I feel that I must often avoid hitting the issue outright, and because often I am trying to study the problem, and thus, I am not certain about the solution, or that I am correct in thinking that there is a problem.
As is often the case I hinted at several suggestions that ?they? may have planned much of what we see today. For instance the city/county is getting carried away with writing parking tickets, they started off with small amounts being charged, so few felt that it was worth fighting them. Later the fines went up a great deal, and you find that people are going to jail for ?scofflaw?, whatever that is, and everyone says ?how the @#&% did this happen?? or words to that affect.
Anyway, we discussed several topics of this nature, I hinted that those in position(s), in high places, in city hall may want to increase parking tickets to increase revenue, and have little concern for the public in general, as they (politicians) would like us to believe. So far so good, everyone could accept this possibility.
Of course I was indicating that this was the situation on more than the local level, that it may reach to the highest levels of government, and span a much greater time period, then what was under discussion at the time.
In any event, my grandmother, who raised me and my brother, seem to know where I was going with the discussion, mainly that heavy reliance on big government brings more problems than it is worth, she cut me off before I could say much more.
Quote:A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.Barry Goldwater (1964)
It was clear to me that she did not want me to discuss the issue at all (the young ones might hear?), and that she knew much more on the topic of big government than I had ever suspected. Therefore, at some point I was one of the “young ones” that did not get the family knowledge about events that were an open and public issue at one time. If I did not learn about these events much later, then “that is just the way thing are”.
There have been a number of times that I have asked my grandmother (grandfather [while alive], father, aunts and uncles also (some of them don't seem to know much)) about things that happened ?before my time?, while she will talk feely about mundane matters, if there is any hint of controversy or scandal, there is no answer forthcoming, or the subject is changed.
?The Taboo of Sovereignty, Money, Love & Power ? this is the issue that Johnny Liberty speak of:
I, and my brother, find that this is often the case with many of our older generation (aunts, uncles, grandmothers, fathers, etc.) family or friends. And, yes even us if we feel that there is a danger in speaking out. Often this is because we don?t think we will be well received if we speak on a matter, this is actually the case many times. You know the warning about discussing religion and politics, the war in Iraq, or any other politically correct topic(s).
Quote:You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle for independence.Charles Austin Beard (1874-1948)
This self censorship always goes on all of the time, and we must use our judgment as to wisely engage in such an activity. As a result it is hard for us, of most concern, the young, to make sense of the world that confronts us today. The government (School, IRS, the governor, mayor, president, TV, etc.) ends up being the only image makers, and thought shapers for the young. Of course there is trouble with this picture, there is no force to act against the power elite (those who control all major intuitions of power, the office of the president, congress, banks, media, corporations) corruption, half-truth, propaganda, and outright lies. As the joke goes:
Quote:How can you tell if a politician is lying, watch to see if his lips are moving.-unknown
In some cases family or friends have been apart of some secret group, not that the fact that the group is secret is bad. But there is no way to judge such a group before joining and taking some oath or pledge that you don?t fully understand the ramifications of. When I have asked about the ideas/theme of the group(s) I have always been met with silence or told that I could go and join in order to find out, however, the trusted family or friend would not or could not talk about the matter. PERIOD. This always seemed like asking someone to jump into a water well to see how deep it is, thus, my answer was always no. Many of these groups go by that name of the Masons (oops: founding fathers?), Goodfellows, etc.
This reminds me of something someone said about the super secret SKULL & BONES (322):
Quote:“It?s so secret we can?t talk about it.”– George W. Bush
http://www.geocities.com/zembmor98/skullandbones.html
Or see what Richard Nixon had to say about the BOHEMIAN GROVE:
Quote:“O thou, great symbol of all mortal wisdom, Owl of Bohemia, we do beseech thee, grant us thy counsel.”– “Sermon” of the Bohemian Grove
http://www.geocities.com/zembmor98/bohemian.html
And maybe you can find your favorite politician here:
http://www.geocities.com/zembmor98/
It is many of these groups that I now see information about, which don?t make me feel to delightful about them. Joining such groups may be another way that the family is losing strength, strength that the nation needs as its foundation, and all that is good, depend on.
However, the truth always nags at you in calm moments, such as when you are filling out some IRS form, you may think to yourself why should they take this much from me? What have they given to me in return? Then we tend to say nah, if there was an issue that I should worry about ?they? (the government, school, the news media, the church, my attorney, my accountant, my family, fill in the blank ________) would have told me. It goes against our nature to admit that we have been fooled; after all does this mean that I am a fool? And this adds to our ignorance. Rattler14 you seem to be able to humble yourself and I applaud you, and all others who take this difficult step to see the truth. I can only hope to measure up to this high standard.
As Yoda of ?Star Wars? fame said:
Quote:You must unlearn all that you have learned.Of course, I don?t intend to make my grandmother, father, aunts, uncles, or anyone else, the villain here, she, and many others have contributed a huge amount to me that I can never repay. However, I feel that I must point out how we can end up in a ?state? that we don?t understand, a state of ignorance, a state of democracy and not a republic, and find it hard to break out of it. Our minds rail against us.
Above all, this is cautionary information on how we may hurt our own cause, which is raising strong families that will last many generations, in peace and prosperity. We must not repeat this dangerous process for future generations!
I hope and pray that we all do what we can today, for a better future.
Peace be unto you,
Bob
A few words on the issue of Guns (and Gun Control), thankfully, Guns are still in fashion.
History shows that an unarmed people are often enslaved or destroyed.
Understandably, I grow concerned as I see the (federal/super-state) government on the rise. Growing ever more arrogant and intoxicated with power by the day(IRS intimidation, kangaroo courts throwing good citizens in jail, etc.).
Former Attorney-General Janet Reno stated the Gun Control direction clearly:
Quote:Gun registration is not enough? Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of firearms is the goal.Down the rabbit hole we go, and here is the destination:
Quote:Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.Sara Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control
This website by Peter E. Hendrickson speaks volumes as to why we should guard against the agenda of the gun control(abolish) movement:
Quote:Gun Control and the Federal Government “The Constitution shall never be construed… to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”-Samuel Adams, Architect of the American Revolution
? ? Over the past half century, meaningful instruction in civics and history (along with much else) has been largely abandoned at virtually all public, and many private, schools.? This has created fertile ground for the implantation and spread of a host of falsehoods about the nature, purpose, and particulars of the U.S. Constitution– an opportunity which has been seized upon and greedily exploited by clients of state power in service to their various interests.? One particularly persistent and pernicious such falsehood concerns the meaning of the Second Amendment– asserting that the amendment tolerates, or even explicitly supports, federal involvement in the area of individual possession of weapons by citizens of the several States.? Happily, even a rudimentary (but accurate and rational) analysis of the plain language and historical context of the Constitution, and the Supreme Court jurisprudence on the subject, readily reveals this assertion to be complete nonsense.
? ? It is abundantly clear from as little as a casual study that the Founding Fathers were not foolish or presumptuous enough to believe that they had created a form of government so perfect as to have, in and of itself, offered the people complete protection from usurpation, abuse, or tyranny.? Instead, clearly recognizing and wisely fearing the inevitable tendency of all forms of government to seek ever greater control and power, the Founders girded the citizenry about with numerous safeguards of their liberties, intending thereby to ensure that the people always possess the means to remain masters of the relationship.? These include the distribution of power among the three competing branches of government; the limited grant of power of any kind as delineated in the written constitution; the obligation upon the enforcement of all laws that they be subject to a jury's approval each time they are applied; and a series of explicit prohibitions of legislation in certain areas, embodied throughout the Constitution and particularly in the Bill of Rights.
[?]Contrary to what is popularly believed today, the attitude toward government reflected in the Constitution did not proceed from the immediate experience of the colonists with King George.? Rather, it is an expression of their understanding of fundamental power dynamics and the nature of rights and human relations, which had been widely explored in print by such thinkers as John Locke and Adam Smith, and long codified in English and American common law and practice.? Some of these principles are: That power belongs to individuals, who cede what they will of it by voluntary consent– temporarily and on good behavior– to a collective entity in order to make efficient the defense of their interests; that rights are inherent and inalienable (which is to say, incapable of being? made inoperative), and that they exist as a corollary of being human without any government contribution to their legitimacy or character; and that centralized power is by its nature corrupting of those who administer it.? The proper understanding of the plain words of the Second Amendment is completely consistent with these principles.
? ? Mao once observed that power flows from the barrel of a gun.? Our Founding Fathers, having reclaimed power over their lives and fortunes with armed resistance to government, knew the truth of that observation, and committed themselves to the jealous safeguarding of control by the people over that power, in anticipation of the future.? “?Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or abolish it?”, says the Declaration of Independence, and the charter subsequently written by the warriors who actualized those powerful words specifically provided themselves and their descendants with the means to do it again, if necessary.
http://www.losthorizons.com/comment/archiv…lGunControl.htm
Quote:Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria
Quote:This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registraton! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future.Adolf Hitler (1935)
Yes, we see why Hitler wanted to disarm the citizens of Germany, so he could make them perfect soldiers/slaves in his plan to rule the world. I say history speaks louder than the politicians words and propaganda, whether it is King George W., or another corrupt leader, the Gun Control agenda (one piece of the puzzle) is to doing its part to subdue the usA and take over the world for the New World Order, One World Government, the Evil Empire, etc. (use your imagination).
Pastor Mike Treis addresses many of these issues in his newest book ?Destruction of America?:
Quote:Are the unconstitutional changes in our government that are destroying our republic new in origin, or are they a planned and plotted take over that has been going on for almost 200 years? Yes there is a plan for world domination! Yes there is a plan to take control of America. It is one that is so blatant; it is even stated on the back of our one-dollar bill. “Annuit Coeptis NOVUS ORODO SECLORUM.” Announcing the Birth of the NEW WORLD ORDER! Shades of George Herbert Walker Bush!Am I a lone conspiracy nut? Nay not so! At least one US Congressman agrees that there is now a plan to take over America.
Congressman Ron Paul Admits Conspiracy to Create World Government
Aug. 30th, 2003 Austin, Texas
Eric Rainbolt – audience member asking question of Congressman Paul.
Eric Rainbolt: “Great! If we can take a look at the big picture, could you tell us, the people in this room, any information that you may have of an international and deceptive conspiracy to overthrow the American Republic and its Constitution & Bill Of Rights in order to set up and usher in a totalitarian World Government likely espoused under the UN also..”?
Congressman Paul: ” He asked if there was an international conspiracy to overthrow our government. The answer is “Yes”. I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Government, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship – and those plans are there!…”
http://www.birrenbach.com/TREIS/
It seems that Patrick Henry had great vision when he stated:
Quote:They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/henry-liberty.html
A final note from one of the founding fathers:
Quote:The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.Thomas Jefferson
I rest my case.
Best wishes,
BobT12
Also see King George W. Tells it like it is:
Quote:We must make sacrifices. You Sacrifice your kids, I’ll sacrifice my golf game…Some sort of Orwellian 1984 with a Madison Avenue veneer? No Way…Don’t forget to pay your taxes. We can’t do this without you…No. I’m not the anti-christ. I just want to be king of the world.http://www.badtastetshirts.com/king-george-w.htm
This hits the nail on the head.
Here is a little gem in our efforts to deal with the IRS 😀 .
Quote:IRS THREATS AND INTIMIDATIONOPEN LETTER TO MARK EVERSON, IRS COMMISSIONER
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW
they need to know what is going on…
Understand the smoke and mirrors before your very eyes…
Open Letter To Mark Everson From Charles F. Conces:
Open Letter To Mark Everson, IRS Commissioner:
Dear Mr. Everson;
I just finished watching the video of your statement addressing the so called “challenge” of tax compliance that you face.
First, let me say that I have long ago lost any confidence in the your agents' honesty and integrity. Aren't you responsible for their poor training in tax law? I also have lost any confidence in your ability to even answer an honest question, which calls into question your motives.
The people who appeared with you talked so much about “fair share”, “tax schemes”, “abusive tax shelters”, and spent a lot of tax payer dollars in telling everyone what a great job you are doing. Why is it that I find fraud and abuse almost every time I try to contact the IRS. Why don't you address fraud and abuse in your own agency before looking elsewhere? Agents hang up the phone on me when I ask them to supply me with a tax assessment. Do your agents even know that before they can issue a notice of deficiency, that an assessment must be done? Unsigned letters come from the IRS with only a phone number on them, and when you call that number, no one answers!
Mr. Everson, would you please tell me your definition of “fair share”. Is it 50% or 75%? What percentage of a corporation's income is a “fair share”? Can this go to 100% under the next IRS commissioner's idea of “fair share”?
http://cconces.tripod.com/Openletter.html
I originally got this info at Suijuris.net.
http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?p=25524#post25524
Pass the word.
Everlasting Wars and rumors of War!!!
It seems that all of the signs are pointing to the fact that the U.S. is gearing up for war with Iran, as soon a June 2005!
According to Scott Ritter of Information Clearing House ?Sleepwalking to disaster in Iran?:
Quote:The Bush administration was keen on achieving some semblance of stability in Iraq before June 2005Why? Scott Ritter says:
Quote:When I asked why that date, the source dropped the bombshell: because that was when the Pentagon was told to be prepared to launch a massive aerial attack against Iran, Iraq's neighbour to the east, in order to destroy the Iranian nuclear programme.Why June 2005?, I asked. 'The Israelis are concerned that if the Iranians get their nuclear enrichment programme up and running, then there will be no way to stop the Iranians from getting a nuclear weapon. June 2005 is seen as the decisive date.'
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8408.htm
Now the individual facts are starting to fall into place:
First install a (puppet?) government in Iraq. Although, this Iraqi government is extremely dependent upon U.S. occupational forces, for the foreseeable future, the Bush Camp seems to be hoping that its window dressing will stick. However, the Bush team is apparently eager to expand the empire by attacking Iran, even if the situation in Iraq worsens. Bush and Co. have their marching orders:
According to Scott Ritter:
Quote:Israel's Defense Minister, Shaul Mofaz, declared that 'under no circumstances would Israel be able to tolerate nuclear weapons in Iranian possession'.Since October 2003 Israel had a plan in place for a pre-emptive strike against Iran's major nuclear facilities, including the nuclear reactor facility in Busher (scheduled to become active in 2005).
These plans were constantly being updated, something that did not escape the attention of the Bush White House.
The Israeli policy toward Iran, when it comes to stopping the Iranian nuclear programme, has always been for the US to lead the way.
Second, don?t let people in the military leave the service. Even if their contract says their term of service is up. Also, the soldier may be tired of fighting a war that has nothing to do with the defense of their nation. The soldier may be battle weary and suffering from the stress or horrors of war.
Senator Robert Byrd made a wonderful speech on Wednesday, February 12, 2003, ?Reckless Administration May Reap Disastrous Consequences,? yet here we go again:
Quote:One can understand the anger and shock of any President after the savage attacks of September 11. One can appreciate the frustration of having only a shadow to chase and an amorphous, fleeting enemy on which it is nearly impossible to exact retribution.But to turn one's frustration and anger into the kind of extremely destabilizing and dangerous foreign policy debacle that the world is currently witnessing is inexcusable from any Administration charged with the awesome power and responsibility of guiding the destiny of the greatest superpower on the planet. Frankly many of the pronouncements made by this Administration are outrageous.
There is no other word.
Yet this chamber is hauntingly silent. On what is possibly the eve of horrific infliction of death and destruction on the population of the nation of Iraq — a population, I might add, of which over 50% is under age 15 — this chamber is silent. On what is possibly only days before we send thousands of our own citizens to face unimagined horrors of chemical and biological warfare — this chamber is silent. On the eve of what could possibly be a vicious terrorist attack in retaliation for our attack on Iraq, it is business as usual in the United States Senate.
We are truly “sleepwalking through history.” In my heart of hearts I pray that this great nation and its good and trusting citizens are not in for a rudest of awakenings.
To engage in war is always to pick a wild card. And war must always be a last resort, not a first choice. I truly must question the judgment of any President who can say that a massive unprovoked military attack on a nation which is over 50% children is “in the highest moral traditions of our country”. This war is not necessary at this time. Pressure appears to be having a good result in Iraq. Our mistake was to put ourselves in a corner so quickly. Our challenge is to now find a graceful way out of a box of our own making. Perhaps there is still a way if we allow more time.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0212-07.htm
Third, start the new draft. There aren?t enough victims signing up for this insane and immoral duty in the current branches of the military. Many young men and woman are waking up the fact that they are losing their life( at least 1500 to 1600 dead American Soldiers) and/or limbs (if you are lucky) for a signing bonus and distant educational benefits (how much can you learn if you have a hole in your head). It is a dumb and dangerous deal. You don?t need ?higher education? to see that! The people are starting to wake up, so they are not signing up for Bush?s, and his master?(s), plan of world domination fast enough. That killing innocent people (about 100,000 total dead Iraqis), and those who are justly defending their land against invasion, is not something many people, in increasing numbers, want to risk their lives for. So as you can see it is time to bring on the war slaves, its time for the new federal draft.
Quote:Selective Service Ready To Restore The DraftNo Draft No Way | March 1 2005
On March 31, the Selective Service System will report to President Bush that it is ready to implement a draft within 75 days. We have to organize now to stop the draft before it starts.
Despite what politicians say, there is a high probability that the Bush Administration will attempt to reinstate the draft.
The U.S. military is in a quagmire in Iraq, facing a national popular uprising against the occupation. Soldiers are dying every day. A report issued in January 2004 by Jeffrey Record, a visiting professor at the Air War College, said the Army is “near the breaking point.” The Pentagon has been forced to issue repeated “stop loss” orders and recall soldiers who had retired or otherwise returned to civilian life?The President has given the Selective Service System a set of readiness goals to be implemented by March 31, 2005. As part of these performance goals, the System must be ready to be fully operational within 75 days. This means we can look for the Draft to be in operation as early as June 15, 2005.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/march2…estoredraft.htm
As Michael Badnarik stated in his 2004 Libertarian campaign for President regarding the DRAFT:
Quote:Coerced military conscription also known as the draft is perhaps the single most anti-freedom action governments regularly take against their own citizens. The draft, represses indiscriminately by directly stealing not only the “treasure” of our citizens, but also by taking years of their precious time and in many cases their lives. The draft has been justifiably resisted throughout American history because it is inherently unfair, unjustifiable, and un-republican.If a free America were ever subjected to attack, most Americans would be more than willing to defend themselves, their homes, and their families against the foreign aggressors. The very fact that too few Americans are volunteering to fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan illustrates that too few Americans view the actions being taken by our government as integral to the preservation of our freedoms. This is simply the free market working.
Of course, some draft advocates would claim that the only reason America needs a draft is because we don't pay our military personnel adequately. Regardless of what the market rate would be in a “free market” for military personnel probably closer to what the private security forces in Iraq are making than what America's military men and women are making the draft would only lead to more military adventurism abroad. After all, the draft is nothing more than the government stealing services from its citizens because it does not want to pay a market rate for them.
Even more disturbing than the draft is the fact that some in Congress would like to expand the draft beyond military service to also include “national service.” You see, for many of our leaders, bringing back the draft has less to do with providing needed soldiers for combat?America has hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in peaceful nations from Japan to Germany?than it does expanding the size and power of government.
As Congressman Ron Paul has said, “To many politicians the American government is America and patriotism means working for the benefit of the state.” Thus, on a crude level, the draft appeals to patriotic fervor. This, according to Congressman Paul, is why the idea of compulsory national service, whether in the form of military conscription or make-work programs like AmeriCorps, still sells on Capitol Hill. Conscription is wrongly associated with patriotism, when it really represents collectivism and involuntary servitude.
As Michael Badnarik goes on to state:
Quote:The U.S. government has meddled in the affairs of the Middle East far too long, always with horrendous results. It overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran and replaced him with the Shah. After making Iranians the enemies of Americans, the U.S. government gave weapons, intelligence and money to Iran's mortal adversary, Saddam Hussein. The U.S. government also helped Libyan Col. Qaddafi come to power, propped up the Saudi monarchy and the Egyptian regime, and gave assistance to Osama bin Laden.Most Americans have forgotten these events. But the people of the Middle East will always remember.
It was because of American troops in Saudi Arabia, lethal sanctions on Iraq, support for states in serious violation of International Law, and siding with Israel in its dispute with the Palestinians to the tune of more than $3 billion per year in taxpayers' funds that terrorist leaders were able to recruit those individuals who caused 3,000 Americans to pay the ultimate price on September 11, 2001.
http://badnarik.org/plans_wariniraq.php
It is time for We the People to take action, let us not kill for a few pieces of gold or silver (or Federal Reserve Notes [FRNs]). Let us refuse to be killer slaves, killing without question, for a corrupt leadership.
As Sheps says:
Quote:A Time to Break SilenceFor the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of the hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent.
http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?p=25251#post25251
Quote:Unless the people, through united action, arise and take charge of their government, they will find that their government has taken charge of them. Independence and liberty will be gone, and the general public will find itself in a condition of servitude to an aggregation of organized and selfish ambitions.Calvin Coolidge (October 1932)
We the People must wake up and understand that we are granted freedom from the Creator, there is no reason to be a slave to evil beast and reckless leaders.
Quote:We the people are the rightful masters of Congress and the courts. Not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.Abraham Lincoln
Let?s stop the world wide wars, and live in peace.
As a final note, remember:
Quote:It doesn't require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires to people's minds.Samuel Adams
Why on earth do we need the socialists at the United Nations (translation: New World Order organization) to oversee the internet?
I agree with Earl Benser:
Quote:The internet didn't need the ITU to get to it's currentperformance, it doesn't need the ITU for any future
developments.
By the way, the linking of China (via Zhao) and 'security' should
be a bone-chilling event to everyone.
And as Frank Cook says:
Quote:Read between the lines and its clear that Mr. Zhao, a former government official in China's Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications, is advocating more government control (such as “methods to provide authenticated directories that meet national privacy regimes”) in order to help repressive regimes such as the one that he (used to?) work(s) for stifle dissent and free access to information. It would be a mistake to let governance of the Internet fall into such hands.We don?t need the UN, period, thus, let?s get rid of the useless (translation: dangerous to freedom) United Nations ASAP.
We should heed Ron Paul, House Representative for Texas :
Quote:The federal government has no authority to erode United States sovereignty. According to the Constitution, all sovereignty, all authority, other than those delegated in the carefully delineated enumerated powers, remains vested with the people, not the federal government, and certainly not with the United Nations.
