Forum Replies Created

Page 4 of 42
  • BOBT12

    Member
    October 17, 2013 at 12:27 am in reply to: You do NOT have to comply with Obumercare!

    I don’t know what you mean by destroyed…where are you getting this?

    From the OP.
     

    2. Chief justice Roberts concluded in part III-A that the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE IS NOT A VALID EXERCISE of congress’s power under the commerce clause and the necessary and proper clause!

    This DESTROYS the individual mandate!!

    Once the mandate is converted to something else (a voluntary tax), it no longer exist, hence, it is destroyed. This is not rocket science.

    A mandate is:
     

    man·date (mndt)
    n.
    1. An authoritative command or instruction.

    Once you are not under any command, there is no longer a mandate.

    On the other-hand, voluntary means:
     

    vol·un·tar·y (vln-tr)
    adj.
    1. Done or undertaken of one’s own free will: a voluntary decision to leave the job.
    2. Acting or done willingly and without constraint or expectation of reward: a voluntary hostage; voluntary community work.
    3. Normally controlled by or subject to individual volition: voluntary muscle contractions.
    4. Capable of making choices; having the faculty of will.
    5. Supported by contributions or charitable donations rather than by government appropriations: voluntary hospitals.
    6. Law
    a. Without legal obligation or consideration: a voluntary conveyance of property.

    Emphasis added.

    Therefore, when Roberts converted the mandate, he admitted there is NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to agree to be covered by ObamaNoCare, or pay any “penalty” whatsoever.

    If someone is forcing you to volunteer, well this destroy voluntary action. Yes, one may be required to defend their right to volunteer, or NOT VOLUNTEER, for that matter. Nonetheless, this is another legal matter, separate from the legal issue of the so-called “INDIVIDUAL MANDATE”.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    October 16, 2013 at 11:46 pm in reply to: You do NOT have to comply with Obumercare!

    The MANDATE IS DESTROYED! Whether or not people decide to stand upon RIGHT is another matter altogether. Many people died to defend right, so there’s nothing new there, dude.

    If a Man invades my Property, he becomes an Aggressor, and puts himself into a State of War with me: I have a Right to oppose this Invader; If I have not Strength to repel him, I must submit, but he acquires no Right to my Estate which he has usurped. Whenever I recover strength I may renew my claim, and attempt to regain my Possession; if I am never strong enough, my Son, or his Son, may, when able, recover the natural Right of his Ancestor which has been unjustly taken from him. -Richard Bland

  • BOBT12

    Member
    October 16, 2013 at 10:55 pm in reply to: You do NOT have to comply with Obumercare!

    You’re missing the point.  
     
    The article implied that Roberts admitted that the individual mandate was unconstitutional as it was an invalid application of Congress’ commerce or necessary and proper clause, and therefore not a valid law.  This is PARTIALLY true and very misleading.
     
    The article omits the important detail that Part III-B elucidates on which is that the individual mandate is constitutional law under the Congress taxing power.
     
    Therefore the article is misguiding the readers into forming an improper and moot conclusion.

    Sadly, you are missing the point that the MANDATE IS VOLUNTARY!

    ”Our system of taxation is based on voluntary assessment and payment, not upon distraint.” — United States v. Flora, 362 US 145 (1960)

    It’s Roberts’ opinion that is misleading,(no one, including our lord Roberts, can rightfully turn voluntary action into a mandate) and you are displaying the perfect example of this misunderstanding by claiming that the conclusion, apparently that the VOLUNTARY part of the equation is “moot”. The Opening Post is highlighting this misleading condition.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    October 16, 2013 at 6:44 pm in reply to: You do NOT have to comply with Obumercare!

    Yes stija, however, the tax system is either indirect (voluntary) or direct (which is limited to an apportionment). Thus, Roberts is actually admitting that ObamaNoCare is enforceable (sic) only as a voluntary tax.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    August 23, 2013 at 4:25 pm in reply to: I am a racist

    We see this influx of immigrant populations occurring around the world. This coordinated attack appears to be aimed at western nations in order to overwhelm their cultural and political bonds. The racist tagline is intended to squelch voices in opposition to the plan. This is likely part of a strategy of war in order to prepare for to next stage of the operation, some sort of controlled demolition.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    August 20, 2013 at 7:06 pm in reply to: Tax cheats about to lose their licenses; 8/15/2013

    I wonder if Geithner will get on that list.

    8) Nominated a six-time tax cheater to head the government agency that enforces the tax laws

    Obama nominated Timothy Geithner, a repeat tax cheater, to head the government agency that enforces the tax laws.

    Prior to his nomination, Geithner had:

    1) Illegally failed to pay more than $34,000 in social security and medicare taxes

    2) Illegally declared the cost of his children’s summer camp as a form of day care.

    3) Illegally failed to pay the early withdrawal penalty when he took money out of his retirement plan

    4) Illegally declared non-eligible items as a charitable deduction

    5) Illegally declared something which was ineligible as a small business deduction

    6) Illegally declared utility expenses which had actually been for his personal use

    9) Gave tax dollars to AIG executives, then pretended to be outraged about it

    http://www.suijurisforum.com/post31570.html?hilit=Geithner#p31570

  • BOBT12

    Member
    August 20, 2013 at 5:11 pm in reply to: GCHQ agents destroyed hard drives in Guardian basement; 8/20/2013

    Why is the UK working to cover up disclosures of NSA’s criminal acts? So much for conspiracy theories. Welcome to the real world of conspiracy facts.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    August 14, 2013 at 1:26 am in reply to: PRIVATE search engine

    I really love startpage, don’t forget you can view your results through its proxy mode in order to preserve your anonymity. The people at startpage are also working, in the beta testing phase, on a secure email platform (with Mr. Snowden’s NSA revelations in mind).

  • BOBT12

    Member
    July 5, 2013 at 4:30 am in reply to: The Husband Store

    Very funny, yet sadly true. 😉

  • BOBT12

    Member
    June 21, 2013 at 6:18 pm in reply to: American Resistance Party

    And of course that was all proven to be a lie, as the real bombers were Muslims.

    With all due respect, the fact that the government is lying, with the aid of the LameStreamMedia, is beyond dispute. However, the idea that the Tsarnaev brothers were the “real bombers” has not been proven. Most of the available facts do not support the guilt of the Tsarnaev brothers. Their backpacks did NOT match the bags that exploded. However, members of the para military group called “Craft” did have such backpacks. Photos also show that a couple of members of that group didn’t have those backpacks after the explosions. Moreover, there were drills being run at the same time, which is the fingerprint of a government false flag operation. And yes, the Tsarnaev (the older brother), Craft, the Army presents (against Posse Comitatus), drills, are all linked to the government. Hence, the facts point to the government Black operators, operating in the shadows, being the main suspects of the Boston Bombing, 9/11/2001, WTC 1993, 2009 Underwear Bomber, Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Gladio (NATO), Operation Northwoods (JFK said NO!), Sinking of the Main 1898.

    Many governments from Nero and the Great Fire of Rome to the 7/7 London Bombing are committed by governments around the world in order to gain greater amounts of power over their own people.
     

    ”For one people undone by foreign invaders, ten have been undone by their own native rogues, who were entrusted to defend them.” [L] Cato’s Letters, #75, p. 551

  • BOBT12

    Member
    June 19, 2013 at 7:10 pm in reply to: Jail for Christian Baker who refused Homosexual "Wedding" Cakes

    While the corporation may face some sort of fine for the paper (statutory) infraction, this man should not be at risk for any jail time for “mala prohibia” (because they say so) offenses. Refusal to offer a service is NOT the same as stealing some property from another party. Thus, there is no corpus delicti (body of crime) and the case should be dismissed.

    ”No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority.” — Thomas Jefferson, Speech to New London Methodists, 1809

  • It seems that the government wants to make sure everyone is on the Federal Reserve Note (masquerading as a dollar)so that few escape the engineered collapse of the fiat currency.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    May 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm in reply to: Research suggests human intelligence is on the decline

    What needs to be looked at regarding lowered I.Q.is the amount of neurotoxins that people are commonly subjected to today. Things like fluoride, which is a powerful toxin that has been put in 60% of the nations water supply, of course it was used as rat poison and in Russian and Nazi concentration camps before this. Then we look at vaccines, which have large amounts of mercury, aluminum, and many other neurotoxins in them. In addition every major metropolitan area has Chemtrails, Bioengineering according to the science Czar, John P. Holdren (who’s book Ecoscience explains how to spike our food and water as a tool of control for the overlords) which has the neurotoxin aluminum as a major component. They also contain barium and strontium, both toxic to all biological life. Then we wonder why I.Q.s are dropping. The only reason that I can fathom for this question is as a result of of the above.

  • BOBT12

    Member
    May 17, 2013 at 10:16 pm in reply to: Why the gun control bill was rejected

    It is insane to think that the same federal fools who gave us Fast and Furious, would be the nice folks that should decide under what rules we can bear arms. The people who abuse the IRS’ power to attack are the same people running ObamaNoCare, to decide if you have the proper health to own a gun (did you ever tell your mom you were under stress at work? Oh-oh! So you are in a wheelchair? Watch out. Got a hangnail…). Just look at the wonderful job the DC witches and warlocks did in Benghazi. Have a heart doesn’t mean one should eat one! Hey, no thanks.

    ”For one people undone by foreign invaders, ten have been undone by their own native rogues, who were entrusted to defend them.” [L] Cato’s Letters, #75, p. 551

  • Study after study keeps showing the same thing, vaccines are dangerous. Yet, we see vaccines keep being pushed on children. This is a battle we must stay active fighting. I grow sick of the lab-coat Nazis. Either these so-called professionals cannot read, or…

    ”Failure to comprehend facts of reality is the essence of dementia; refusal to comprehend them, the essence of evil.”

Page 4 of 42