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I did reply hope you got it. Also I have been looking for 12 USC 82(a), where can I get a copy.
Author #2 wrote on May 6 2008, 02:44 PM:Layed,If you are suing the mortgage company to cancel a debt, this forum is not the appropriate place to obtain help. We frown on people who abuse the legal system to escape their responsibilities.
Yes, the money system is a scam and the bank didn't loan any of it's own money per 12 USC 82(a), but two wrongs don't make a right.
If you are trying to cancel a mortgage instead of stop a foreclosure, then you aren't welcome to abuse these forums for your own agenda.Â
Is that the case? At least be honest enough to disclose your motives before you go out demanding help from people who are trying to stop fraud. You make them an accessory to fraud by using these forums to cancel mortgages.
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Dear Admin
I am a victim of ARM mortgage almost doubled. I been in my home for twenty years and I will not let someone put me out if they cannot prove they own the mortgage, by producing the original note.
I have been paying my mortgage on time for a while and since I have some knowledge of the mortgage system. why not challenge them. Or of course I could let them evict me. It might happen anyway, but atleast I gave it a try first.
Thanks, Layed
Admin wrote on May 7 2008, 10:13 AM:Layed,Once again, please reveal your intentions. We won't allow these forums to be abused to STEAL from others. If you are trying to cancel a mortgage, you are STEALING and we will have NO PART OF IT.
Quote:“But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”[1 Tim. 6:9-10, Bible, NKJV]
On the other hand, if you are a victim of foreclosure, that is a legitimate use of these forums.
If you won't reveal your intentions, we are going to delate this topic because silence constitutes agreement pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 8(d). We won't have any redemptionist commercial scams attempted in our name nor be associated with them.
If you want to know what this fellowship thinks of “redemption” and the legal and factual basis for their view, read:
Policy Document: UCC Redemption, Form #08.002
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
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Usually when I ask for help I will come out and ask for it. This message does not say anything about help such as, any suggestions, your thoughts etc.
I will not bring this topic up again.
layed wrote on May 6 2008, 02:39 PM:I sued my mortgage company under the FDCPA 1692a, saying that they did not verify the debt. The attorney for the mortgage company are trying to dismiss saying they are not a debt collector and sited US Supreme court in Bell Atlantic Corp. v. Tvombly, 127 S. Ct. 1955, 1964-65' (2007)[post=”4774″][/post] -
Bing,
Most of the sedm forms I have read on jurisdiction deals alot with taxes. Since my federal case deals with my mortgage, I wonder if these forms will hold wait. Like the form on Federal Jurisdiction and Federal enforcement authority within states of the union. Thanks.
layed wrote on May 5 2008, 07:24 PM:Yes bing,You are correct in your statements but when a contract is fraud on its face it cannot be valid. If the courts and attorneys have jurisdiction over me then they must sign under penalty of perjury or be placed in default.
Its like the IRS 1040 form and the IRS saying you owe them money. If you ask them to sign per Title 26 Section 6065, they will not.
I know I am fighting a battle that I may loose but when you have been in your home for 20 years and got caught up the ARM`s, I have no choice. I am just trying to do all I can to try to prevail. Hopefully with the help of this board and my own research, I may stall them for a while.
The banks must prove that they have been injured. They must prove that they have the original note. I just filed Request for productions, Request for admissions and interrogatories. According the FRCP they must be answered within 30 days, I wll keep this board posted and maybe my outcome will help someone else.
Bing wrote on May 5 2008, 09:37 AM:Layed, if you initially took out a bank loan to get the mortgage, and the you passed papers at settlement, you should reread the papers, because I will bet you will see the initials HUD,? FHLBB, and other initials of purely federal corporations that have interjected themselves into the home buying process, and have granted you one or more “benefits”.And you likely signed all that stuff agreeing, among other things, that you are a “U.S. person”.
And if such is true, and you consumed said federal benefits, and you declared that you are a “U.S.” person, then you are in a real bind.
And this is where the feds presume that they have jurisdiction over you.
Don't feel bad, tens of millions of Americans have made these same mistakes.
Good luck trying to extricate yourself from their dishonest presumptions.
Let us know what happens.
Bing
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Yes bing,
You are correct in your statements but when a contract is fraud on its face it cannot be valid. If the courts and attorneys have jurisdiction over me then they must sign under penalty of perjury or be placed in default.
Its like the IRS 1040 form and the IRS saying you owe them money. If you ask them to sign per Title 26 Section 6065, they will not.
I know I am fighting a battle that I may loose but when you have been in your home for 20 years and got caught up the ARM`s, I have no choice. I am just trying to do all I can to try to prevail. Hopefully with the help of this board and my own research, I may stall them for a while.
The banks must prove that they have been injured. They must prove that they have the original note. I just filed Request for productions, Request for admissions and interrogatories. According the FRCP they must be answered within 30 days, I wll keep this board posted and maybe my outcome will help someone else.
Bing wrote on May 5 2008, 09:37 AM:Layed, if you initially took out a bank loan to get the mortgage, and the you passed papers at settlement, you should reread the papers, because I will bet you will see the initials HUD, FHLBB, and other initials of purely federal corporations that have interjected themselves into the home buying process, and have granted you one or more “benefits”.And you likely signed all that stuff agreeing, among other things, that you are a “U.S. person”.
And if such is true, and you consumed said federal benefits, and you declared that you are a “U.S.” person, then you are in a real bind.
And this is where the feds presume that they have jurisdiction over you.
Don't feel bad, tens of millions of Americans have made these same mistakes.
Good luck trying to extricate yourself from their dishonest presumptions.
Let us know what happens.
Bing
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I want to prove that the FRCP do not apply to me for an upcoming case. What form explains this. Thanks.
layed wrote on May 4 2008, 10:46 AM:I did not clarify, but my case is not a tax case, its a mortgage case in federal court, where I am the plaintiff. I want to challenge jurisdiction with your form for judges and attorneys to fill out.Admin wrote on May 3 2008, 07:42 PM:Layed,We don't provide that kind of help. SEDM has a litigation tool that uses the above:
Petition to Dismiss Civil Tax Case, Litigation Tool #03.002
http://sedm.org/Litigation/LitIndex.htm
If you have further quesitons on the above item, please don't ask me. I'm not responsible for the above. Post your questions to SEDM
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I did not clarify, but my case is not a tax case, its a mortgage case in federal court, where I am the plaintiff. I want to challenge jurisdiction with your form for judges and attorneys to fill out.
Admin wrote on May 3 2008, 07:42 PM:Layed,We don't provide that kind of help. SEDM has a litigation tool that uses the above:
Petition to Dismiss Civil Tax Case, Litigation Tool #03.002
http://sedm.org/Litigation/LitIndex.htm
If you have further quesitons on the above item, please don't ask me. I'm not responsible for the above. Post your questions to SEDM
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Thank you for your help admin,
Once I hand this document to the attorney and judge. I will need to put them in default. I can write a simple default letter, but does your site have a template of one that is probably more professional. Thanks.
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I plan on pulling my own weight. Ive been doing that for 6 years.
Next question: Is the form below a good form to give federal judges or attorneys to prove jurisdiction.
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Well Mr. Bing,
I appreciate the advice, but spoon feed I am not. I have been fighting the IRS for six years. I come on this board for different answers and opinions no matter how trivial the question may be. Instead of taking one persons opinion, I gather all the information and try to make a decision from that.
The lien has been filed with the county and my next step is to have them verify the debt, write the credit bureaus and finally put a commercial lien on the agent that did this. I have and I will make them look like the idiots they are. I wll be filing a land patent on my property.
lambskin wrote on Nov 25 2006, 01:34 AM:Hey Layed,Yep, sounds exactly like their s.o.p., they'll run ya broke if you let 'em get away with it.
Don't try to tackle these guys in court, either in person or by filing any answers or motions; just send them (the IRS – not the court) a registered letter (that's Registered.. not Certified mail and keep copies of everything you send/get – to/from them) and tell them you choose not to acknowledge their presence until they obey the law. Word the letter any way you choose, but make sure you speak non-offensively and make sure you include some language that lets 'em know that you're aware of the fact that you have a right to avoid their trespasses against you and that you're going to avail yourself of that right for the time being.Â
Then start workin' on the credit reporting agency by sending them a registered letter (yes they cost about $10 a pop, but it's still cheaper – and safer – than goin' into a courtroom with/without an attorney) and demand that they provide you with the verified “proof” that they've obtained from the IRS that the lien is valid. Not the copies of the documents that the reporting agency might have received from the IRS that simply say “We want you to put this lien in this guy's credit file.” or just a copy of the recorded lien from the public record (those don't contain the necessary “proof”), but copies of the documents that the IRS is required to send to them that prove that the lien is lawfully valid (such as a “court ordered” lien signed by a lawfully seated “magistrate” from the county in which the liened property lies). If the reporting agency can't supply you with anything that the IRS has used to substantiate their claim to the reporting agency, then they can't legally put it in the file they have on you.
Now, since I've been through this a couple of times with C.R.A.'s, I can tell you that thier first response is gonna come back with some kinda fluffy answer; don't accept this as any kind of legitimate determination on thier part, they're required by law (they're a licensed company) to prove to you that they've made a diligent effort to verify the the lawfullness of the IRS's request and that they're in possession of the fruits of that effort, if they're not, it's deletion time.
Well… that's what they're supposed to do anyway, but they wont. So, your next letter will state that you've reported them (the C.R.A.) to the FTC (which you must, and will, do) and have asked them to open an investigation on them. Now, this'll come as no supprise or deterent to them. They go through this stuff all the time and will do everything they can to prolong the your misery as long as they can; this is, in fact, how they earn thier FRN's is it not? So you'll hafta get used to the fact that this is gonna take awhile.
Of course you'll still be gettin' love letters from various dept.s of Corp. US as this moves along, but those need to be handled differently (see my response to your “jurisdiction” post at http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=723 ).
Proceed with caution my friend and you'll do fine. If ya wanna P.M. me about more of this, I'd be glad to help you along. It seemed to me, by you're comments in the US v Killiher post, that you're from my neck of the woods (I'm in Chicagoland) so it might be easier to correspond with you than it's been with some of the others I've had to pilot through this morass.
Now, I can just state for the record that this invitation might receive immediate rebuttal from certain fans of mine, but if you're a fairly level headed individual, then you'd put out the welcome mat and consider the opportunity to learn a lil' somethin' and be glad for the assistance and not immediately put up a wall of defense. I know most people'd at least come to the door to see who's knockin' before they'd open it and shoot.
G&P,
Lambskin
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Is it possible for you to give an example of the affidavit you are talking about.
Bing wrote on Aug 28 2006, 03:05 PM:Separately, if one finds themselves in a tax prosecution case, it is absolutely imperitive that after one challenges their alleged jurisdiction, that one prepare and file a pleading/affidavit and request the Court to judically Notice certain facts.Why?
Because under the Federal Rules of evidence, EVERY Judge is required to incorporate ALL judicially noticed facts as part of the eventual jury instructions.
Look at all the big name prosecutions where folks were represented by legal counsel, and interestingly enough, you almost NEVER see as part of the Record, a Motion To Judicially Notice Certain Facts filed by legal counsel.
Now, since such a weapon is so critical to putting on one's best defense, you have to wonder why attorneys rarely resort to such a trial tactic. Spread the word
Hmmmmmm.
Bing
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I understand why I am NOT a US Citizen, and I am not but If I check no I am not a US Citizen, I wonder what the outcome would be. Thanks.
Bing wrote on Sep 26 2006, 03:08 PM:Proceed with caution. Layed the nature of your question indicates that you need to do alot more studying about these matters. The info and opinions are at FG and SEDM, so no need to be lazy, get crackin'.If you are a U.S. citizen under federal statutes, then by all means, be honest and say so.
However, if you were born on non-federal land inside one of the Union states, then you are NOT a U.S. citizen under federal statutes, even though you are a U.S. citizen under the USA Constituion. If such is the case, you are an American National and a state national.
One can be a national but not a citizen, See 8 USC 1452 and 8 USC 1101 (a) 21 and (a) 22 for proof.
This post is NOT legal advice but is merely my hypothetical opinion and I am not a licensed attorney. . . . . thank God. 😀
Bing
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Author #2 wrote on Jun 21 2006, 11:12 AM:Layed,
The FOIA you did most likely was for IMF data. An IMF has a field called LIEN, but that does not necessarily mean a lien on real property. Unless you go down to the County recorder and find out if there is a lien, you may be jumping to conclusions.
An IMF Lien and a property lien are NOT the same thing.
[post=”2849″][/post]The document I have in front of me is a facsimile faxed to the recorder of deeds office. It was actually executed on October 13th 2005. But I just found out about it today.
I have been fighting this battle for for over six years and yes I have explained my status of Non Taxpayer. I have exposed to the the SSN fraud and so on. My take on all this is that it is good that we can come together on this board and discuss our tax problems. But all it is talk. A few people may slip through the cracks but the majority of the people lose and lose big.
The only solution is that the system will crumble on its on or we the people will come together and take a stand. WE NEED A REVOLUTION. REVOLUTIONS OVER TURN CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS. THIS IN MY OPINION IS THE ONLY THE WAY.
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For some time now I have been quite aware of this information. Dr. Horowitz is another source of the AIDS virus and mabye you got some of your information from him.
Last year me and my wife took a trip to Jamaica. We were in awe on how beautiful this place was. But once you walk outside of the hotel you stayed in, it was a different story. People begging for money the unemployment rate is off the charts. This country is under so much control that it is not allowed to sell anything it produce. It is forced to by products elsewere. For example, bananas are growed cheaper and taste better coming from Jamaica and it would benefit the economy if Jamaica was allower to enter into market. But there is such a monoply in the market that they are force to buy bananas from other sources. When these bananas are put in the supermarkets, they are sold much less than the Jamaican bananas. They are forced to buy and sell they same product thats destroying there economy. Of course we are not just talking about bananas, we are talking about other products as well. What happen to a free market.
But what gets me is that the Jamaican people (all black people) cannot leave there own country. Why is this? This is total slavery and control. The same people that run this county are the same people that probably started the AIDS virus.
There is a video you can by from amazon or rent from Netflixs called Life and Debt. I suggest you watch it and see who is controlling them and us as well. Enough said.
PS. One question I have is, why is so much control and genocide focused on the black race? Even though I know the answer, some people on this board may not know but need to ponder this question for a moment.
mftreis3 wrote on Mar 7 2005, 05:40 PM:The Man Made PlaguesBy Michael Treis
In 1992 I walked into the University of North Dakota Library to do some research of Congressional documents. I remember quite well the bitter cold of -40 below 0 and wind chills that would freeze you to the bone with some speed. However this cold is a warm summer day at the beach, in comparison to the documents I found.
The document was; Department of Defense Appropriations for 1970
H.B. 15090. The main issue of this document was and I quote; ? Within the next 5 to 10 years, it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon when we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease.
3. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately 5 years at a total cost of $10 million.?
This was major funding for the development of what would later be called AIDS/HIV.
Yes Virginia, AIDS is a man-made virus. In 1988 I read an article entitled WHO Murdered Africa. This article quoted a Times of London Article that began my quest for truth in the matter. The Times article May 11,1987 the front page of the London Times reported ?smallpox vaccine triggers AIDS virus “WHO (the World Health Organization) murdered Africa”.
This article had triggered a response not unlike the cold of North Dakota, finding documents linking OUR CONGRESS with the vaccination of over 93 million people in Africa with AIDS. This however was only the tip of the iceberg. This same World Health Organization (United Nations program) ?smallpox? vaccination program also went to the people of Haiti, Brazil, & southern Japan.
With the knowledge supplied from Congressional documents later exposure of further government documents that revealed of the most racist genocide ever funded by our Congress the super secret, MK-NAOMI, and the beginnings of the US Special Virus Cancer Program.
You may download the original 4 articles I wrote the book from FREE and buy the book at:
http://www.birrenbach.com/TREIS/Â
It has taken well over a year to get this published. Publishers have thwarted me at every turn to suppress the truth. Please help spread the truth.Â
Michael Treis
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I understand your logic, and no I am not a taxpayer. But many people, including a close friend of mine is getting her check garnished for failure to answer the IRS, by setting up a paper trail and ignoring the due process hearing.
The IRS has no juridiction outside of the 10 square mile of washington D.C. So her theory was to ignore the letters, why even take the time to answer them. So technically even though she is correct in ignoring them you will lose.
I have been fighting this battle for over five years and I am still learning. I have answered 90% of the bogus letters from the IRS and I have established prima facia evidence.
I have already had a CDPH over 5 months ago by corresspondence and established the facts of being a non tax payer. What I am trying decide now is how will I stop the IRS from garnishing my wife check because of the fact that the CDPH hearing was missed. I am trying to establish if I want to use the Family Guaridan forms for my wife or not.
Bing wrote on Jun 8 2006, 04:22 AM:Layed, sir, you have to read and study the free material, especially the Great IRS Hoax book, available on the FG website.And then make the determination as to whether you are a taxpayer or not.
If you are a taxpayer, then go to http://www.irs.gov, or contact a local IRS official and perhaps they may be able to assist and advise you with any questions you may have.
Finally, if you are not a taxpayer, (see 26 USC 7701 (14) then you must determine the reason why you would even want a CDP in the first place.
Good luck.
Bing
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