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  • franklin

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    December 1, 2010 at 8:18 pm in reply to: Stamps on legal documents: a crazy idea
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    Where did Becraft state that “governments are not corporations”?

    He contributed his views on that to the forums a few days ago. Check Admin's posts to locate Becraft post and Admin's rebuttal.

  • franklin

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    November 30, 2010 at 5:52 pm in reply to: Stamps on legal documents: a crazy idea

    Becraft gets just enough things right to be credible. Then he uses that credibility to promulgate errors — like governments are not corporations.

  • franklin

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    November 30, 2010 at 4:56 pm in reply to: More 1099-OID insanity

    The stupid :wacko: leading the stupider :wacko: :wacko:

  • franklin

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    November 29, 2010 at 8:21 pm in reply to: TSA x-rays and sexual gropings

    I'd like to read it. Make it a pdf and upload it.

  • franklin

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    November 28, 2010 at 5:01 pm in reply to: And then the fight started…

    😆 😆 😆

  • franklin

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    November 26, 2010 at 4:49 pm in reply to: Complaint Filed by Virginia Against USG & Obamacare

    Thanks for providing these legal docs.

    They raise ideas that can be developed for other state/federal gov. issues that are as immediately pressing.

    E.g., The TSA procedures at airports, and now at bus and train stations, arenas, etc.

    At issue would be the usurpation of the police power of the state by DHS and its subsidiary TSA.

    The TSA has no police power to order compliance with its procedures, and must call on local law enforcement to arrest someone who is opting out of TSA procedures but not disturbing the peace.

    The TSA enactments statutes call for 'deputizing' (empowering one person to act for another) local law enforcement. If the DHS and TSA have no police power under the 10th Amendment…how does a TSA agent issue a command and declare a $10,000 penalty for non-compliance, which is a police power of the state, or empower a local peace officer, without any power to delegate arrest power to the local officer, to arrest someone for not disturbing the peace or not complying with an agency regulation that anyone can opt out of.

    Or how does A TSA agent 'empower' a local peace officer to remove a passenger from an air terminal and thereby tortiously interfere in a contract (the ticket) between the passenger and the airline?

    Just as is the case with health insurance, The TSA DHS smoke and mirrors operation appears to be a 10th Amendment issue.

    In the health care issue Va. Attorney General Cuccinelli cites Gonzales v. Oregon, 546 US 243, 270 (2006)which says…

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    “protection of the lives, limbs, health, comfort and quiet of all persons” falls within state police power

    It might be prudent for some passenger in every state to get the State Attorney General's opinion on the matter as a first step.

  • franklin

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    November 23, 2010 at 7:40 pm in reply to: Adventures in 21 USC13 and 21CFR 1300

    Thanks Prollins,

    Good and useful post about US customs.

    Keep posting.

  • franklin

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    November 23, 2010 at 7:11 pm in reply to: About the US Corporation

    Interesting information and opinion, however it is not persuasive.

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    I know that there are advocates in the movement who assert that govts are private corps, which is false. Govts are created by constitutions

    What distinguishes corps from sole proprietorships and partnerships is a unique legal principle: the stockholders of corps have limited liability for payment of corp debts. The stockholders are not liable for the corp.

    There are corporations without stockholders.

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    The only sense in which govts are corps relates to the matter of limited liability for corp debts. People that populate a govt, such as its officers and employees, are not liable for the debts of that govt. In this sense, govts are corps, or really like or similar to corps. But that is a very loose observation. Govts are institutions created by constitutions. They are not created by Dun & Bradstreet, and the fact that D & B, a credit reporting agency whose publications are used by salesmen, lists govts does not mean that govts are private corps. It just means that this credit reporting agency has listed govts in its credit reports.

    Every politician since Elizabeth I has known the fabulous wealth they can accrue though being corporate employees instead of public servants. Every politician knows that the East India Company was not governed by Magna Carta, just as P3l0s1, R3id, et al, know that the Consitution does not control corporations and their activities.

    While governments are established by constitutions, governments can and do set up corporations and act through them…which is an excellent way to bypass the liability clauses of the constitution and shield the government personnel from liability.

    Governments make laws, not 'public policy'. Corporations make policy and do not have the same separation of powers requirements that a constitution might have. Corporations are not required to provide due process of law — they may only be able to enforce policy. [Several people are successfully citing organic law to TSA agents who insist that everyone must follow their “policy”. See post today in gov. corruption forum re young man reentering the country and citing law to TSA agents as a basis for not being groped and TSA agent escorting him out of airport without screening and telling the young man to “have a nice day”. When organic law meets corporate policy law wins.] The evidence of policy making government corporations is everywhere.

    To be persuasive Becraft would have to explain why D&B does a credit report on the U.S. Supreme Court, which it notes is “ALSO TRADING AS SUPREME COURT”, or what credit report would be relevant to “Office of President” at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, D.C. Michelle's servants are paid out of the public treasury, not by private contractors at her expense. What credit report is Becraft referring to? Whoever, heard of Wal-Mart providing due process of law. It can only follow its own policies.

    In lawyerly fashion, Becraft sets up a straw man to knock down.

    However, he presents his conclusion with very skinny premises to support them. His conclusion that the de facto 'government' is not corporate does not necessarily follow from his incomplete definition of corporations.

    Typical of lawyers, Becraft's opinions in this matter, do not bear close scrutiny and do not rise to the level of logical argument (i.e., premise 1 + premise 2 = necessary conclusion). That means his opinions are not debatable because the rules of debate depend on logical exposition to support conclusions.

    Had Becraft made a well reasoned, well documented logical argument, he might have contributed to this forum.

  • franklin

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    November 22, 2010 at 4:54 pm in reply to: TSA x-rays and sexual gropings

    You're welcome prollins.

    The reason it is important to stop this at the airport is because it is only a trial balloon. The plan is twofold: To make the pat downs so humiliating that people will opt for the scanners as the lesser of the two evils and the money for the scanners will continue to flow to michael chertoff's company. The second reason is that TSA has the equivalent of 450+ employees per airport in this country. They can't all fit in the secure zone at a given airport, so they are being deployed (accompanied by a police officer since TSA has no enforcement authority) into public areas on constitutional land using vans to screen people at all public venues. You can research this easily by googling the program by its name “VIPER” and doing the same on You Tube to see them in action in public places.

    Many food stores (Target, Supertarget, Weggman's, et al, are asking everyone, seniors included, to show ID if they have wine or cigarettes among their grocery items. This also helps the public to be desensitized to the request for their papers.

    I've decided to object right then and there. Here's my scenario.

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    17 year old clerk. May I see your ID?

    Me. No. Why?

    Her. It's for the wine.

    Me. Do you think I'm under 18?

    Her. No.

    Me. Then ring it up so you can get the rest of these people checked out and on their way. (I smile nicely to the people whose patience I'm going to try. They deserve that much).

    Her. The computer has to have your birth date or it won't close the sale.

    Me. Call the manager. (Make sure I stay in place blocking the line while waiting for manager).

    5 minutes later.

    Manager. Can I help you?

    Me. No. You have to help your teenage clerk close the sale and I'm pressed for time and don't appreciate the delay she's causing.

    Manager. No problem. What's your birth date?

    Me. I was born on the same day, same month, same year, at the same hour as you.

    Manager. (Looks surprised) Oh. OK. No problem, then. Manager punches his birthday into register. Sale closed.

    I've decided not to be desensitized to requests for ID, but to be highly sensitized to it. If the old lady in front of me, who was buying a carton of cigarettes, had done the same thing I did, I would have given her two thumbs up and a “you go girl” and waited as long as necessary for the manager to show up. Then I'd have told her to wait and offer to buy her a coffee.

    These small incidents are useful push ups for the larger incidents where perverts and thugs want to molest you and your children.

    “You Go Fella”

  • franklin

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    November 19, 2010 at 4:30 pm in reply to: SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES

    And such indifferent pastors have been given reasonable notice about what will happen to them in Matthew 7:21ff…they are called “evildoers” because evil can only happen, as they say, when good men do nothing.

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    Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven,

    but only the one who does the will of my father in heaven.

    Many will say to me on that day,

    'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name?

    Did we not drive out demons in your name?

    Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?'

    Then I will declare to them solemnly, 'I never knew you. Depart from me you evildoers.'

    The First Commandment requires us to renounce slavery for two reasons…

    • As slaves we must worship false gods and believe in their empty promises.[*]Only a free person can enter into a binding contract or covenant with God.

    And this means that pastors MUST be involved in politics, at the very least as commentators.

    The Founders forbid the government from interfering with churches.

    But there is nothing that forbids churches from interfering in government. So pastors get around the requirement to be free by seeking to be enslaved by the 501c3 license much as the Israelites argued for slavery instead of liberation (Exodus 14:11ff)…

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    …why did you bring us out of Egypt?

    Did we not tell you this in Egypt when we said,

    'Leave us alone. Let us serve the Egyptians'?

    Far better for us to be the slaves of the Egyptians

    than to die in the desert.

    There is indeed a wall of separation between church and state, but the wall has a door that can only be opened from the church side of the wall. The government side of the wall shows a sign on the door that says “No Trespassing! Do Not Enter!”.

  • franklin

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    November 15, 2010 at 4:57 pm in reply to: The coming financial disaster in a nutshell

    It's unbelievable that two cartoon characters know more about quantitative easing and the fed and who ask the right questions…than any politician does or any talking head newscaster who can't get a real acting job.

    Given the level of American education, it is not so unbelievable that it would take two cartoon characters to explain this stuff cogently to the American people.

  • franklin

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    November 12, 2010 at 3:46 pm in reply to: 420 banks demand 1-world currency

    Here is Dr. Edwin Viera's analysis of how a one world currency will allow the demonic bankers and politician's to not only continue, but increase their power over the people of the world. He brings special attention to the ruse that a one-world currency will be backed by gold.

  • franklin

    Member
    November 12, 2010 at 3:40 pm in reply to: The goal of public education is to kill curiosity

    Preventing crimes and pseudo crimes with pro-active law-making such as “The War on Drugs”, “The War on Terrorism” “The War on Poverty” are all examples of the law becoming nothing more than the whims of politicians.

    This kind of pro-active law making is the foreplay to a general lockdown. It gets the people used to being submissive to government abuse.

    This submissiveness will be necessary world-wide when the ponzi financial system collapses shortly. The US departments of defense and homeland security are already prepared for military action against civil unrest. But the training to submissiveness is already well established.

    For example, almost everyone asked so far has submitted to scatterback x-ray searches and, or, sexual fondling searches at airports around the world.

    There will be very little bloodshed when Americans are asked to move into detention camps (recall how the New Orleans population was relocated during Katrina).

    They are used to thinking that the will of politicians is actual law.

    They are used to the idea that law means to be pushed around, regulated, fined, jailed for breaking politicians' rules instead of understanding that all real law is be for protection of their Rights.

    But, then, they have understood protection to mean government favors given to special interest groups; to mean that a woman has a constitutional right to kill a partially born child struggling to survive who has invaded her privacy.

    (On the other hand, that same brain-dead woman will allow her genitals and breasts and those children she didn't abort to be fondled by high-school drop out barely-English-speaking TSA agents because “it's the law. Privacy be damned, the government is making me safe.”).

    Today, all “law” is punitive…which is the fundamental requirement of a socialist state and the main function of a socialist government…someone must be punished so that someone else can benefit. This is the socialist definition of “fairness”…to take from those who produce and give to those who do not produce.

    Aristotle must be spinning in his grave along with Jefferson, Madison, et al. at such a blatant, irrational, subhuman, contradiction.

  • franklin

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    November 11, 2010 at 3:28 pm in reply to: gpoaccess.gov website admission…

    Prollins

    Good job. 🙂

    Doesn't matter that the info was already organized at SEDM because…each of us needs to verify everything anyway.

    Now you can read those SEDM docs with sharpened understanding because you've made the information your own before reading other people's work.

  • franklin

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    November 10, 2010 at 2:09 pm in reply to: Results of Cutting Down Trees

    😆 😆 😆

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