franklin
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Bing
You sound like after long experience you've simply become immune to words of art (e.g. stabilization fund) and can spot them a page away.
I still have to look them up…but I'm pleased with my progress so far…I've got “”person” down cold so I don't have to think about it anymore [means the same thing wherever you encounter it in government speak] 🙂
😀 With that kind of mileage you don't need to spend all that money on a hybrid!
The amazing thing is the forbearance of the American people with their corrupt federal and state governments.
The Second Amendment was designed to deal with a violent and tyrannical government.
If the government fails to respond to your petition…via the courts…and murders your family member (e.g. by not responding to an appeal) or threatens to murder you for making the petition…would the founders think self-defense is appropriate? <_<
It would also be great to see Congress abolish the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (38 Stat 226) which it could do by a simple majority vote in both houses.
12 USC Chapter 3 subshapter I Sec. 226 (“Federal Reserve Act”
?Sec. 31. The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved.?
But they won't do it unless they are incessantly lobbied by the constitution lovers of this country.
There are enough constitution loving people in this country to form a large lobbying group, and open offices right next to AIPAC, and walk the halls of Congress hammering away at ignorant congress critters that they better vote for things like the repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and all of its progeny…the repeal of the 17th Amendment to give back state representation in Congress, etc…or they'll be history at the next election.
The Constitution is the only entity without an effective lobby in Washington to make sure the government for whom it was written honors it.
But Leonard Foster and his wife may have the better idea…just going lawfully our own way using lawful money.
There actually may be a mandate for this in the law if my thinking is correct (and I'm open to correction).
Based on the principle that federal law is only applicable on land under congress's jurisdiction…
All Acts of Congress (such as The Federal Reserve Act) have legal effect only in the District of Columbia and territories over which Congress has exclusive jurisdiction.
These territories are referred to in federal law as States (and not states).
In 12 USC sec. 221 “the term ?the continental United States? means the States of the United States and the District of Columbia.” “For purposes of this chapter, a State bank includes any bank which is operating under the Code of Law for the District of Columbia.”
It's very sneaky language that invites presumption because “States of the United States” as used in the statute cannot mean the fifty union states because at…
12 USC sec. 222 Alaska and Hawaii are referred to as States prior to becoming states…
“When the State of Alaska or Hawaii is hereafter admitted to the Union the Federal Reserve districts shall be readjusted by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in such manner as to include such State [former territory].”
So it seems that all along we should have been using our own monetary system or systems based on lawful money and not complying with the banking laws of the District of Columbia.
Ignoring Acts of Congress which do not run with state land…and following the Foster's plan or others like it…would save a great deal of energy that would be used up by lobbying and trying to convince criminals to obey the law.
- Quote:What can I say, buy silver and gold? Metal only, of course.
Only don't keep it in a bank safe deposit box. 😎 Access to such a box could be severely curtailed for you and vulnerable to confiscation by…Thuuuh Deeecider 😛
Question: 😎
If the Constitution is suspended…how does Bush remain commander in chief? Doesn't he become just another outlaw?
One thing, among many others, that I think of this scenario is that it tells us very frankly how terrified the criminal classes in DC are of the people. Martial law will not be to keep order…it will be to protect them from the wrath of their masters.
You're right BobT.
If the court had ruled truthfully without contradiction…they would have blown the lid off the scam. So they 'rationalize' their unconstitutional judgments with psychotic 'logic'.
Your point is also well taken that people, ministers, believe (presume) that they have to sign up for the 501 exemption. And that if they don't they would be liable for federal income tax.
They also presume that if they 'lose' their 501 exemption they will have to pay taxes. I may be wrong, and I'm open to being informed, but I don't think [presume] there is any penalty statute that says that.
The world of the average American would be very different and infinitely better even if they only availed themselves of three things from the vast amount of scholarly work of this site and SEDM…
1. The work on the thought virus called presumption and how people undermine their liberty by relying on it rather than real facts (like what the law actually says);
2. The fact that federal laws (Acts of Congress) only run on federal land (except for some interstate commerce jurisdiction)
3. The work on social security which shows how people trade their freedom, their time and their money for a few measly 'benefits' (which are not free but paid for with taxes that they don't owe [a contradiction if ever there was one]).
If only these three contributions from FG and SEDM were understood…they would provide a how-to-do-it manual for giving the the Bill of Rights daily practical application.
And then no one would even dream of filing for 501 'benefits'. And the judges would have to get real jobs 😛 .
Thanks admin. I'm going to copy and fwd to my email list.
Here's another way to get across how much a billion dollars is (most people really don't know that's why they're not outraged at congressional spending).
To educate people quickly to the enormous sums Congress prints…ask your friends…
If someone gave you a billion dollars on one condition…that you spend all of the money by December 31, 2008…at the rate of three thousand dollars a day (a sum most people with a charge card can relate to comfortably)…what year would you have had to begin?
Most people have no idea so you have to encourage them to take a wild guess. Most will say something like 1975.
When you tell them that you would have had to begin spending three thousand dollars a day just after the battle of Hastings in 1066 to be finished spending your billion dollars by New Year's eve 2008, they are incredulous. So you show them using the arithmetic they learned in the 3rd grade.
1,000,000,000/3,000 or dropping an equal no. of zeroes from each side =
1,000,000/3 = 333,333 days or a little more than 913 years.
You can make the point easy for your friend without any further division by assuming the year has 333 days…that gives you the round number of 1000 years.
The starting year is 1095 AD.
It's fun to use at gatherings when you're talking politics and spending promises by candidates and spending bills by incumbents.
One of the defining clinical characteristics of psychotic thought disorder is the ability to live comfortably with a contradiction as if it didn't exist. (Think here of the decider's statement “War is Peace”.)
One of the defining characteristics of truth is logical thinking…which according to Aristotle is the absence of contradictions. Contradictions are always false and never lead to truth.
The following contradiction is beautiful in its elegant simplicity…it meets the criteria for both psychotic thinking and falsehood…
Quote:A definitive court case on the issue of free speech and political expression is Branch Ministries Inc. versus Rossotti. In that case, the court upheld the constitutionality of the ban on political activity.The court wrote: “The government has a compelling interest in maintaining the integrity of the tax system and in not subsidizing partisan political activity, and Section 501?(3) is the least restrictive means of accomplishing that purpose.”
The contradiction is relying on the Constitution to uphold a compelling government interest in suppressing free speech.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were provided to the federal government to curb or prohibit its compelling interest in suppressing the rights of the people.
So a court that says it is constitutional to do what the Constitution prohibits (Amendment I, clause 2) is demonstrating psychotic thinking and convincing itself of falsehood.
Such a judgment can only be void.
It would have been truthful and not contradictory for the court to inform the litigants that they lost their case because they gave up their rights for a privilege that they did not need and now they have to play by the rules. Constitutional whining does not change the fact that they sought and applied for 501[c](3) forms, rules, regulations and restrictions.
In such a judgment the court rightfully would be holding the litigants to their agreement to comply with 501[c](3). However, the judgment as rendered not only contradicts itself and leads to a falsehood…it has nothing to do with the facts where the litigants demonstrated…by their misguided application for 501[c](3) status…that they themselves had a compelling interest to function under that statute.
That old saying might be true…a judge is a lawyer who wasn't smart enough to make partner. (I don't think there are any comparable sayings for 501[c](3) ministers <_< , but maybe there should be.
Also referenced on 9/28 in Political Commentary Forum.
Awareness of this stationing of troops in US of A with the express purpose of quelling civil unrest is spreading.
Naomi Wolf (See Admin post in Political Activism Forum) points out that this represents a coup and planning of insurrection on the part of the president and his advisers. She says plainly that they should be arrested and that the District Attorneys have the power to do this.
This issue is spread over a few forums…it might be helpful to have something like a martial law forum, or in the alternative to move all related posts to the Police state action forum or the Political action form…so we can put our heads together in one place and brainstorm what appears to be a rapidly developing issue.
See 9/28 post in Political Commentary forum
Bing you wrote:
Quote:I think we should simply just skip right to a Civil war and let the pieces fall where they may.I think it may come to that Bing. Or at least I like to think it may come to that — the people guarding and fighting for their freedom. Although…
on the other hand I'm not optimistic that the people will take responsibility for themselves. It seems like the government, the schools and the news media have been very very successful in dumbing the people down so that they will get into whatever box car they are told to get into — without asking where it is going!
For example, I know numerous highly educated people all over the country who get all of their information and 'news' from The New York Times. None of the ones I am in frequent contact with have ever heard of the Amero or the NAU. Their collective wisdom says it can't happen.
If you point out to them that the European Union and the euro were imposed on the people, (the Lisbon Treaty debacle being a clear example), without the consent of the people…they still don't think it can happen. When you point out that only Ireland put the Lisbon Treaty to a referendum and other nations did not, even over the objections of their respective citizens, the NYT elites still insist it can't happen.
I'm guessing that most people do not see the need for a revolution…the kind freedom fighters take part in. I think they will see the introduction of the Amero as a revolutionary act…and agree that it was high time something was done about that falling dollar.
Most people want to be right in their opinions…but man I'd love…I mean love… to be wrong about this.
Franklin
Great video. Thanks for posting it. It's probably more accurate than any of the “analyses” coming from the think tanks.
Bing
snw4939 must have been unconscious halfway through your post…but you kept slugging him/her anyway. Good job! 😆 . When s/he recovers consciousness s/he can read the last half.
Your post is what I imagine judgment day may be like (but hopefully not for me…or thee…or we 🙄 )
Franklin
