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dan,
Welcome to the Family Guardian ministry.
First of all, as a seeker of the truth I direct your attention to the Family Guardian ?ABOUT US? page. You will find that the true adherents to this ?Ministry? do not give ?advice?.
To give advice is a violation of:
Quote:12 PROHIBITED ACTIVIES6. Taking any kind of leadership or power of attorney role over the lives of others. This includes, giving legal advice, making determinations about the legal status of a person, or assuming legal liability for the decisions or actions of others. As educators and paralegals but not lawyers, the most we can do is offer information to people about options they have in a given situation and then explain to them the consequences of each option by showing them what the law and the courts say on the subject. We will never offer less than two options and we will always suggest that the options we are aware of may not include all of the options available or necessarily even the best option. We will also tell our users that the decision of which option to take is entirely their responsibility and not ours. On the occasion of every inquiry by a user, we will also tell people that they should research and confirm everything we say and not trust anyone, including us, for complete or error-free information about the options available to them. We will never be anything more than servants of the sovereign People we serve on this website and assuming any other role undermines their sovereignty.
Through my own observations here I find that if you pose your questions wisely you will be more successful in gaining the answers that you seek.
Secondly, in addition to studying the Family Guardian resources I would suggest that you study the materials available at the SEDM website.
I have discovered that many of the seemingly good information sites out are in fact knowingly or unknowingly contributing to Americas? demise.
For myself, I have found that through deceptive color of law, words of art, and the public fool system have collectively tried to hoodwink me into voluntary slavery subject to a state sponsored false religion.
For myself, I can?t find anywhere that participating in State sponsored religious proceedings is beneficial or wise.
Someone might find that the benefit they seek by way of an appeal is in fact a web that was spun for ones own demise.
For myself, knowing who has jurisdiction over me is of paramount importance if I want to stay out of the State sponsored corporate political slave camps.
Lastly as for myself, I conclude that knowing who I am, and who I am not is perhaps the one most important fundamental and foundational defense available anywhere. A freeman is not free unless he knows his rights and is able to defend them when challenged.
The question is who are you?
Good luck in your personal quest for the truth. Because the truth SHALL make you free!
rattler,
Kudos! 😉
Thanks for your patriotic efforts to expose the REAL conspiracy behind 911. I think if honest people continue to pursue the perpetrators of this genocidal act justice can be eventually served.
I trust this thread will also continue to develop as the evidence is presented.
Unfortunately, the remaining freedoms in America hang in the fragile balance of a few like-minded research hounds whose efforts go mostly unknown to those that still slumber.
It has taken over a century of complacency to bring America to the brink of destruction that we find ourselves in today. Too bad the whole patriot movement seems to be pulling in opposite directions. I just hope there is enough time left to effectively organize our efforts to win our Country back. Meanwhile, as we hope for the best we must plan for the worst.
- Riverway wrote on Jan 1 2006, 08:52 PM:Just had to pass one more quote I found. The master propagandist:
“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.”- Joseph M. Goebbels
[post=”2028″][/post]Pretty much sums up our plight huh.
Rattler,
No problem my friend, I do know we are on the same side which is what matters most. After sleeping through the real world most of my life having just woke up about 1999 I am still in the waking up process.
Mostly, I study and research in my free time trying to cram all the information into my little mind that I can to enable me to war against the beast.
I have been in the construction business all of my life, my communication skills are… shall I say… a little on the abrasive side. Anyway thanks for putting up with me. 🙂
((((((((hugs)))))))))
bruce
Rattler,
OK, OK, I to like the video Loose Change! In fact I liked it so much that I also passed it around on the internet in a previous post to your topic World Trade Center…..
Quote:bruce Dec 7 2005, 09:49 PM Post #42Fellow Guardians,
The truth about the 911demolition is catching on. However most of the sheeple that rely on TV to feed their addictions and rely on the fed funded networks to keep them informed can not think for themselves nor have an open mind. I think somehow because of all of our personal battles with the LIRS and Dept. of Injustice we have been awakened to the terrorist plans already in play against all free people. How many of us would have open minds to all of the conspiracys which are before us if we had not discovered people like each of you that provoke each other to thought or good works. These poor people only believe what they see on the network news. Ever been there? Dylan Avery and two of his college friends created an exellent video documentary for all to see and at no charge. Here is a link to his web site with access to the video. http://www.loosechange911.com/ Also here is another great site with download video on 911 to share at will. http://www.question911.com/links.php . Fox 40 WICZ aired the loosechange videos for millions of Americans to see so the word is getting out. I find in my own experience that just like trying to spread the truth about the IRS Hoax that this 911 Demolition expose seperates me even more from my peers. Tis a lonely road we must travel.
Godspeed
bruce
Just so no one misconstrues the intentions of my post any further, you will find that in the preface of my post below I warned the readers as to its content.
Should I have not posted the information? Maybe not, perhaps next time when I have to post a warning about something I will reconsider without prejudice.
Quote:bruce Mar 3 2006, 01:19 AM Post #1The following is an article about Dr. Bill Deagle from the Web Site Arctic Beacon and is incredible to say the least. This information may or may not be true so one must use their own discernment.
Here is an mp3 audio conversation url if you are interested:mp3
Here is a link to the Artic Beacon Website:
Arctic Beacon
Anyway, thanks for you suggestion about the national enquirer, I'll take it under advisement …..while choking on a hair ball…… 😛
I guess the splitting hairs disease is more of a threat than I first suspected! 😛
Seriously though, I appreciate ALL of your opine and the others in this forum and F.G. and I wouldn't want to have it any other way. I really trust you guys, don't let me down sniff, sniff! I really got to go now!
🙂 ((((((HUGS & SQUEEEEEZES))))))),
bruce
- Quote:rattler14 Mar 3 2006, 01:12 PM Post #3
Syzmanski is disinfo
For a great example, read the article here.
http://wingtv.net/thorn2006/syzmanski2.html
He mixes truth with some really really stupid things, thereby giving the opponent the easy straw man to attack and discredit the whole movement. The 9/11 movement (as well as other movements like the tax honesty movement) are rife with such unwanted individuals.
If you disagree with me, that's fine. But I don't trust the guy, especially since he has not apologized or retracted any of his sensationalistic stories that have been proven to be completely false.
Rattler,
I fail to see the disinfo in Sysmanski's articles. However, I do see alot of unfounded allegations to defame Sysmanski. You say his stories have been proven completely false. Where is your references that prove these allegations? Help me out, am I missing something from the WingTV non news soapbox article or the Alaska Intel Report [which I assume is WingTV's source] that is even close to being dishonest by Sysmanski? As far as I am concerned trivial news is no news.
Believe what you want, but I see it as bs to defame someone with no real proof of credible damages and I see it as just splitting hairs over nonsense. Anyway who the he11 gives a third party Bill Adams or anyone else for that matter the right to demand an answer or apology from Sysmanski.
By the way in your latest post in relevant part extracted:
Quote:rattler14 Yesterday, 02:55 PM Post #63QUOTE(lchesson @ Mar 5 2006, 11:47 AM)
1 Hr. 21 min. – must see.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8…hang&pr=goog-sl
This DVD is awesome.
I have more than 100+ copies of it. Any of the regulars here, if you PM me with an address (if you feel comfortable with disclosing said info), I'll mail you, free of charge, a copy.
This way, you can pass around to friends. There is no restrictions on copying (the producer explicitly states this in the introduction), so you can copy and pass around to other friends, etc.
I also have bumper stickers, fliers, etc which I would be willing to pass along as well.
you recommend that people obtain a copy of the referenced video. If you look at about the 100 minute mark in the Loose Change Video you will find references to flight 93 which should ring a bell, huh? Which is in fact what you and the wings accused Greg Sysmanski [disinfo][sensationalistic stories] for ref. relevant part extracted:
Quote:Rattler: If you disagree with me, that's fine. But I don't trust the guy, especially since he has not apologized or retracted any of his sensationalistic stories that have been proven to be completely false.Quote:WingTV: Y?see, Syzmanski didn?t only embarrass himself horribly, he brought ridicule on the entire alternative media with his shoddy journalism. Regrettably, sensationalism seems to be Szymanski?s forte. Take for example some of his recent headlines:– Federal Whistleblower Claims Chicago Grand Jury Indicted Bush and Others
– Dungeon Vatican Rituals at Satan?s Altar Was How Joanna, Born into the Illuminati, Spent Her Childhood Days
– Sold as a Child Sacrifice to the Illuminati Cult, Victim Survives Ritualistic Drowning to Tell Her Story
– Former Cleveland Mayor Reported Flight 93 Landed at Cleveland Airport on 9/11
I guess I am just a littlebit confused as to what you do believe. Sysmanski didn't fabricate all this news, he just reported it. But as for Sysmanski, well, so far his articles and commentary look credible to me.
These WingTV critics remind me of how us boys used to line up in front of the urinals in grade school to see who could pee the furthest.
One last thing, about those Tall Whites; doesn't matter to me if Dr. Deagles patient John Fialla believes he saw Tall Whites or Sasquatch. I want to hear everything there is to tell, then I will research and believe what is verifiable. I don't want censorship. Just give it all to me, I'm not afraid of the boogieman and neither is Sysmanski.
Thanks for your input,
bruce
- cdsea10 wrote on Mar 3 2006, 02:39 PM:i have been looking to find in the Code Of Federal Regulations for the CFR definition or meaning for “enaged in the business or business within the US” and “effectively connected to the conduct of a US trade or business.”
i found lots of definitions to 301.7701 which has the revealtion : “Any other terms that are defined in section 7701 and that are not defined in ??301.7701?1
to 301.7701?15, inclusive, shall, when used in this chapter, have the meanings assigned to them in section 7701. '
but i have not been able to find where they have been hidden…
can anyone help….
[post=”2333″][/post]Greetings cd,
I use the Family Guardian search option when doing a topic search:
Hope this helps.
bruce
SnyderHealth,
Welcome, I share your sentiments and commend you for your choice to stand against tyranny.
bruce
- rattler14 wrote on Mar 16 2005, 11:50 AM:If you're thinking about getting a safe instead of a bank deposit box with your SSN attached to it (suicidal in my opinion), you may want to take a look at this site to see all your options.
These guys don't screw around.
If you're looking for something less hardcore, but provide decent protection at an affordable price, check out Sentry Safe.
Remember, go bigger than you expect to use, as it's easier to fill up a bigger safe than it is to replace when your needs grow.
[post=”1241″][/post]Great points, as with a big gun safe for under $400 you can fill it half full with lead shot so that it could never be moved which provides greater security than one that is small which two thugs could handle easily.
bruce
- Sonik Speed wrote on Feb 20 2006, 03:16 PM:It's okay Mr. Bruce. We are all human! 🙂 But what are the final conclusions you shared with us?
Sonik Speed
[post=”2268″][/post]Sonik,
Thanks for the heads up on being human and all. I won't hold that against you. 😀
Not sure how much human I still have in me, I been turned to the dark side more than once or twice. 🙂 As far as those conclusions though, well, I got a lot of work to do editing them up or down to provide for heterogeneous grouping. 🙂
Anyway, was lucky to get this post, and only because of my email post notification. I guess I will have to get past this handicap and get her up online again the best way I know how.
I us a multi-tab browser with a proxy. Not sure if that is the problem though. There seems to be a compatibility problem with regard to cookie handling and java scripts in reading the posts. My server pc works ok but only without port security. Not good. I'm just going to dump a fresh system iso clone onto my pc, that should cleanup any bugs and put me be back into that web saddle in no time.
I have been working on some of those bible riddles though and I am having a lot of fun with the Bible case law and the like. I could just take a stand on Marbury vs Madison with regard to repugnancy relating to the already settled citations and be done with it. But that wouldn't be any fun without the jousting and all.:D Kind of refreshing to break away from real time problems once in a while. These old dusty doctrinal dogma trails have a lot of turns that lead no where, but rest assured you will get my 2 cents worth along the way.
Not having much problem with the words, its the between the lines part I am working on right now. 😉
All right, Ok, not too many words now, I'll get back at you latter. 😎
bruce,
A.K.A. Mr. Bruce
Sonik,
Oops, my intention was not to make it look like you made the statement, however I must admit it does appear that way. My reference to ??QUESTION #1 ? You say Jesus is God.?? was only intended to be the subject heading for my post. The following quote is in fact the subject matter and questions that I was responding to in my post.
Quote:QUESTION #1 – you say Jesus is God. My follow up to this response is as follows: If you are claiming Jesus is God, then why does Jesus refer to “someone” or “something” as the “Heavenly Father”? Does it suffice to say that He is talking to himself? Jesus also says: “Give God what belongs to God and Caesar what belongs to Caesar.” – Is God and Jesus synonymous in this statement? Or why did Jesus say: “My God – My God why have you forsaken me?” — Is it fair to say that -God- is punishing himself on the cross?Since the way I structured my post was confusing I will make it a point to be more careful and use the QUOTE ?? option.
bruce
A.K.A. Mr. Bruce
- Riverway wrote on Feb 14 2006, 11:14 AM:Question #5
If I may wade in on this conversation, I would submit to you this: If the 66 books that make up what is known as the Bible have some words tor phrases that don't corrorborate with each other, how does that depart from the TRUTH? IMHO in order for that to be the case, there would have to be an intent to DECEIVE! How does that make it ALL wrong or ALL right? For instance, you have various accounts in each of the Gospels which appear to be the same happening that are actually DIFFERENT events!
I think we need to talk specifics here, and not generalities. Just what passages or words or phrases is anyone out here having trouble with or feel are contradictory?
Can Almighty God not provide for the accurate handing down of His-story, even through the hand of drunk Fryers? Is He not capable of sheperding His Word through the ages to give each generation the truth?
Of course He is!
[post=”2256″][/post]Riverway,
Excellent and very insightful observation of question #5.
I detect much faith and wisdom in your post. However, the jury is still out on much of the original intent. 😉 Up to this point the commentary has been very interesting, but yet very telling to say the least. This debate is not new but an age-old war between good and evil. As you have already wisely alluded with regard to His-tory, Gods word is true and that is a fact. I will accept that as one vote for the Bible true side. 😉
At the end of the day after all these truths and untruths have been tried in the court of justice all honest men who are wrong will either accept the truth they have been presented or reject the truth and become dishonest. After all I think that is what the scriptures are supposed to accomplish (original intent of the heart). Yes? A scripture comes to mind which bears out an age old law:
Heb. 4:12 ?For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.?
Please? continue? for in the mouth of two or three witnesses let all things be established.
bruce
A.K.A. Mr. Bruce
sonik ? QUESTION #1 – you say Jesus is God.?
John 1:
1:In the beginning was the Word , and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
1:3 All things were made by him [singular]; and without him [singular] was not any thing made that was made.
1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Comment: Perhaps Gods image was always Jesus.
Comment: Perhaps God was conversing with Angels that he had already created.
Comment: Gen. 1:26-27 obviously God always had an image and likeness, which I believe was the image of the Word, although not flesh and blood yet [vs 14] ?was made flesh? in Mary?s? womb.
Comment: The Almighty God en-robed himself in flesh and dwelled among his creation. Also, Gen. 1:26-27 proclaims that God fashioned man after his own image and likeness. Please don?t think because of the word us that there were Gods conversing with one another because I don?t see any replies being made. Perhaps a deity might say we or us speaking in a royal plurality. I always wanted to look at the original Genesis writing and see if maybe the Kings scholars might have added the words us and our. One would have to reject almost the whole bible because this would in fact be an absolute contradiction to the monotheistic deity of the Almighty God.
I discern by your questions that you seek logical proof that Jesus and Almighty God are one in the same.
I borrowed these wonderful paralleled scriptures from my wife?s bible which she had hand written on the inside cover?
These scriptures reveal that the– God of the Old Testament– is the same God of the New Testament!
Jesus : [New Testament] God : [Old Testament]
Rev. 1:7-8 Jesus Almighty
Gen. 17:1 God AlmightyJohn 8:58 Jesus I AM
Exodus 3:14 God I AMActs 3:14 Jesus Holy One
Isaiah 43:15 God Holy OneJohn 8:24 Jesus I am He
Isaiah 43:10 God I am HeReg. 22:13 Jesus First and Last
Isaiah 44:6 God First and LastI Cor. 10:4 Jesus the Rock
Psalm 18:31 God the Rock11Cor. 11:2 Jesus one Husband
Jer. 31:32 God one HusbandMatt. 23:8 Jesus one Master
Mal. 1:6 God one MasterJohn 10:16 Jesus the one shepherd
Isaiah 40:11 God the ones shepherdActs 4:12 Jesus one Saviour
Isaiah 45:21 God one SaviourLuke 1:68 Jesus one Redeemer
Isaiah 41:14 God one RedeemerRev. 19:13 Jesus was Word of God
John 1:1 The Word was GodRev. 19:16 Jesus was Lord of Lords
Duet: 10:17 God was Lord of LordsPhil 2:10 Every knee bow to Jesus
Isaiah 45:23 Every Knee bow to GodJohn 1:3-10 Jesus the One Creator
Gen 1:1 One Creator was GodJohn 1:49 Jesus King of Israel
Isaiah 44:6 God King of IsraelMatt. 25:31-46 Jesus is coming
Zech. 14:4-5 God is comingIsaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
1 Tim 3
3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Mathew
16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
1 Cor.2
2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Cor. 1:
1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
Again, the scriptures proclaim infallibly the monotheistic deity of God.
bruce
AKA Mr. Bruce
I am not sure what happened while I was editing but, oh well .
Sorry about the double post.
bruce
Mistakenly cloned post removed.
