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mnichnolas
Bing is absolutely right. Your friend is being selfish. This is a Christian website and we are here to serve and obey God and His commandments and put him, not ourselves, first. God says in the Bible that we should honor ALL of our commitments and especially our oaths. Your friend enlisted voluntarily and the enlistment is a “bond” or contract within the meaning of that below. He swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution and that is what he should do for precisely the period he agreed. The fact that he has reservations about that commitment now is his fault, because he had plenty of time to investigate BEFORE he enlisted. If he didn't make a fully informed commitment, that's his fault:
Quote:“Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ: Not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, with goodwill doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.? And you, masters, do the same things to them, giving up threatening, knowing that your own Master also is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him.” [Ephesians 6:5-9]“Servants, be submissive to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the harsh.? For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.” [1 Peter 2:18-19]
“Fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.? Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.? Let each of you lookout not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.” [Phi. 2:2-4; Eph. 4:2]
Furthermore, if he dishonors his agreement and the oath, then he has born false witness of what he would do:
Quote:“A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who speaks lies shall perish.Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord,
But those who deal truthfully are his delight.
A righteous man hates lying, but a wicked man is loathsome and comes to shame.”
[Prov. 19:9;Prov 21:6; Prov. 12:22; Prov. 13:5]
This website does provide plenty of information to make an informed decision BEFORE people enlist, and your friend should have visited it BEFORE he enlisted. But there is nothing here and never will be anything here about how to help people dishonor their agreements AFTER they make them. The following pamphlet addresses how to lawfully avoid the draft BEFORE you enlist, but now what to do AFTER you enlist:
http://sedm.org/Forms/Procs/MilDraft.pdf
You are the uneducated one. Obviously, you aren't familiar with what God's law requires in this situation. Bing's response isn't unhelpful. A Christian who obeys God's laws can't help others commit MUTINY against it. If that means being called “uneducated, unhelpful, and argumentative”, then so be it. But we know who those remarks really refer to. You and your friend.
I agree that the military is not a good place to be and that he is right that it is corrupt, that we are over there for oil, and that our government is totally corrupt. Nevertheless, he MUST honor his commitments, just as many of the members here have done. Many have also served honorably in the military and so should your friend.
Contentment with the circumstances he created for himself is the higher ground in this case.
Quote:“For the granting of a license or permit-the yielding of a particular privilege-and its acceptance by the Meadors, was a contract, in which it was implied that the provisions of the statute which governed, or in any way affected their business, and all other statutes previously passed, which were in pari materia with those provisions, should be recognized and obeyed by them. When the Meadors sought and accepted the privilege, the law was before them. And can they now impugn its constitutionality or refuse to obey its provisions and stipulations, and so exempt themselves from the consequences of their own acts?”[In re Meador, 1 Abb.U.S. 317, 16 F.Cas. 1294, D.C.Ga. (1869)]
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Richard9151,
The Constitution always was applicable in the District of Columbia. It applied to the district before the district was ceded to the United States by Maryland and Virginia in 1790, which was AFTER the Constitution was ratified. The Supreme Court said in Downes that there are steps which CANNOT be taken backward, and one of them is removing the protections of the Constitution to land under federal control. They said that even within the exclusive jurisdiction of Congress, the protections of the Constitution cannot be removed without at least the consent of the state legislature that ceded the district.
Quote:?There could be no doubt as to the correctness of this conclusion, so far, at least, as it applied to the District of Columbia. This District had been a part of the states of Maryland and [182 U.S. 244, 261] Virginia. It had been subject to the Constitution, and was a part of the United States[***]. The Constitution had attached to it irrevocably. There are steps which can never be taken backward. The tie that bound the states of Maryland and Virginia to the Constitution could not be dissolved, without at least the consent of the Federal and state governments to a formal separation. The mere cession of the District of Columbia to the Federal government relinquished the authority of the states, but it did not take it out of the United States or from under the aegis of the Constitution. Neither party had ever consented to that construction of the cession. If, before the District was set off, Congress had passed an unconstitutional act affecting its inhabitants, it would have been void. If done after the District was created, it would have been equally void; in other words, Congress could not do indirectly, by carving out the District, what it could not do directly. The District still remained a part of the United States, protected by the Constitution. Indeed, it would have been a fanciful construction to hold that territory which had been once a part of the United States ceased to be such by being ceded directly to the Federal government.?[Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)]
Virigina took back the land that it ceded, leaving only the Maryland side. The District is no longer 10 miles square, but everything owned by Virginia is now back in the hands of Virginia and the district is only about 60 square miles instead of 100 square miles. Maryland never consented to remove the protections of the Constitution by legislative enactment, so it always was covered following the ratification of the Constitution. The enactment you reference at 16 Stat. 419, 426, Sec. 34 (1871).) would therefore appear to be an unnecessary formality.
The United States government, by enforcing the income tax outside the district and outside the federal zone, DOES violate the constitution. It only applies within the district and the Virgin Islands and the Social Security Act creates the Social Security trust that is the proper subject of the income tax. Those who participate become trustees and “public officers”, but the separation of powers doctrine at 4 USC 72, which derives from Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution, STILLL mandates that all “public offices” must be exercised in the district AND NOT ELSEWHERE. Note that the I.R.C. Subtitle A income tax is upon a “trade or business”, which is defined as “the functions of a public office”. Therefore, it can only extend to places where public offices have been “expressly extended” by Congress, which means the District of Columbia and all other places by legislative enactment.
Congress has NOT “expressly extended” the public offices to any state of the Union and has only extended them to the Virgin Islands under 48 USC 1612. Therefore, the tax can only apply in D.C. and the Virgin Islands and NOT elsewhere. It is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of powers doctrine.
1. To enforce the income tax outside of the District of Columbia or the Virgin Islands.
2. To enforce it against anyone who is not a “public officer”.
3. To condone LIES of the IRS that extend their jurisdiction beyond these places. See:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Arti…Responsible.htm
4. To use the W-4 as the equivalent of BOTH a federal withholding document AND a federal job (public office) application.
5. To allow anyone not otherwise employed with the federal government to volunteer to become a “public office”.
6. To create “public offices” in states of the Union, where Congress enjoys NO LEGISLATIVE JURISDICTION”
Quote:?It is no longer open to question that the general government, unlike the states, Hammer v. Dagenhart, 307H247 U.S. 251, 275 , 38 S.Ct. 529, 3 A.L.R. 649, Ann.Cas.1918E 724, possesses no inherent power in respect of the internal affairs of the states; and emphatically not with regard to legislation.??[Carter v. Carter Coal Co., 308H298 U.S. 238, 56 S.Ct. 855 (1936)]
For those who are in fact are “public officers” of the United States government and who took a oath, it is NOT unconstitutional for Congress to enforce ONLY against them, but not against anyone else. Pursuing federal employment or public office and the taking of such oaths are VOLUNTARY acts. The Thirteenth Amendment only outlaws INVOLUNTARY servitude, not VOLUNTARY servitude. Those who have not VOLUNTARILY taken an oath of office cannot lawfully sign up for Social Security or any other federal benefit, because these programs can ONLY be offered to persons who ALREADY took an oath as public officers. If the government accepts application from persons who are not in fact OTHERWISE federal employees, they are submitting a FALSE CLAIM cognizable under the federal False Claims Act, 31 U.S.C. 3729.
You are also correct that most of the people that protest the income tax and continue to simulataneously and voluntarily participate in Social Security are HYPOCRITES and IDIOTS. That would appear to be the reason why, IMHO, you cannot join SEDM without both quitting Social Security and correcting your citizenship with the federal government. This prevents such idiots and hypocrites from joining and discrediting and injuring both themselves and the ministry. See their member agreement:
http://sedm.org/Membership/MemberAgreement.htm
That also explains why every one of their training courses on taxes in the Liberty University begins with an admonition warning people to pay for all the government services they use. That would appear to mean that if you are going to collect Social Security, then you ought to pay the other taxes that go with it. See:
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Items 2.3 and 4.6:
http://sedm.org/LibertyU/LibertyU.htm
See also:
http://famguardian.org/Publications/WhyANational/WhyANational.pdf
I’m not the expert so I can’t answer further questions.
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Dr. Crimwitt,
You didn’t follow any of the procedures on this site and filed the WRONG form, the 1040. You followed Pete Hendrickson’s approach, which we disagree with, and now you are asking us for help in doing things we clearly advise AGAINST. The reasons why we disagree are extensively documented below:
Policy Document: Pete Hendrickson’s “Trade or Business” Approach (OFFSITE LINK)
The materials on this website are NOT authorized for “use” by statutory “U.S. residents”, “U.S. persons”, “U.S. Individuals”, and you are all three if you filed an IRS form 1040, which can ONLY be filed by resident aliens, who in fact are the ONLY taxpayers under I.R.C. Subtitle A as far as we understand it. The only proper form to file for persons reading or using the materials on this website is the Amended IRS form 1040NR or the Federal Nonresident Nonstatutory Claim for Return of Funds Unlawfully Paid to the Government for the reasons indicated below:
Non-Resident Non-Person Position, Form #05.010
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
Federal Nonresident Nonstatutory Claim for Return of Funds Unlawfully Paid to the Government, Form 15.001
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
If you can’t do your homework BEFORE jumping in and taking the out-of-control government bull directly by the horns, then you’re making a BIG mistake and you deserve the penalties that were heaped on you. You deserve them because you are not getting educated FIRST or exercising due dilligence. That is going to give both this website and Pete Hendirckson a bad name because you are abusing our materials.
If you can’t do all your homework BEFORE jumping in, then please learn to be a good “taxpayer” whore and bend over for the government. We don’t say this to be cruel or to be “UNbrotherly”, as you call it, by any means or to mark you as any kind of enemy, but simply to emphasize that the real enemy is ignorance. If that is un brotherly, then the BIBLE and GOD are UNbrotherly, because the Bible says exactly the same thing:
“Wisdom calls aloud outside; she raises her voice in the open squares, she cries out in the chief concourses, at the openings of the gates in the city she speaks her words; how long, you simple [atheist] ones, will you love simplicity?? For scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge.? Turn at my rebuke; surely I will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you.? Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded, because you disdained my counsel [and My law: God’s law], and would have none of my rebuke, I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror [and the IRS] comes.? When your terror [and the IRS] comes like a storm, and your destruction comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you.? Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; they will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.? Because they hated knowledge [and were too lazy and complacent to seek it out], and did not choose the fear of the Lord.? They have none of my counsel and despised my every rebuke.? Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, and be filled to the full with their own fancies.? For the turning away of the simple will slay them.? And the complacency of fools will destroy them; but whoever listens to me [God and the wisdom that comes ONLY from God] will dwell safely, and will be secure, without fear of evil.”
[Prov. 1:20-33, Bible, NKJV]
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge [ignorance].?”
[Hosea 4:6, Bible, NKJV]
“The mouth of the righteous speaks wisdom, and his tongue talks of justice.? The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.? The wicked watches the righteous, and seeks to slay him.? The Lord will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.? Wait on the Lord, and keep His way, and He shall exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, you shall see it.?”
[Prov. 37:30-34, Bible, NKJV]
“My son, if you receive my words, and treasure my commands within you, so that you incline your ear to wisdom, and apply your heart to understanding; yes, if you cry out for discernment, understanding, if you seek her as silver, and search for her as for hidden treasures; then you will understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.? For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding; He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; he is a shield to those who walk uprightly; he guards the paths of justice, and preserves the way of His saints.? Then you will understand righteousness and justice, equity and every good path.”?
[Prov. 2:1-9, Bible, NKJV]
You obviously aren’t reading the materials here and we won’t help you apply them in VIOLATION of the Disclaimer, the Copyright License Agreement, and the Prohibited Activities:
http://famguardian.org/disclaimer.htm
http://famguardian.o…_OURSELVES_IN:_
The ONLY method that anyone on this website can use to file a return is that documented in the link below, and you not only didn’t read it or admit to reading it, but now you want to be rewarded with our undeserved help for NOT reading or following it. That is a supreme slap in the face. We can’t do that and it would be interfering with the lawful enforcement of the I.R.C. to do it:
http://famguardian.o…NRFedLetter.htm
The procedure we used to come up to speed is documented in question 2.9 of the FAQs, which is the same procedure that everyone else using this website MUST follow if they expect to be members in good standing who deserve help and who have exercised the requisitie “DUE DILIGENCE”:
http://famguardian.org/FAQ/FAQ.htm
Read and heed, or be ignored and possibly even mocked in this forum. This is the SAME advice God Himself gives about following His word, and we are commanded to be like Him. If you call that cold, then call God cold and “UNbrotherly”. God is “love”, the Bible says, and the essence of love is OBEDIENCE to His commandments:
“Let us hear the conclusion of this whole matter: Fear [respect] God and keep His commandments [laws in the Bible], for this is man’s all. For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil.?”
[Eccl. 12:13-14, Bible, NKJV]
If you seek information useful to those facing penalties, see:
Why Penalties are Illegal for anything But Federal Employees, Contractors, and Agents, Form #05.010
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
If you are a parent, you understand the approach of this website. When kids refuse to do what you told them and are hurt by their own ignorance or indiscretion, good parents don’t “enable” their bad behavior by insulating them from feeling ALL of the consequences of their willfully bad choices. That would only slow the process of maturing them and lead them into other harmful behaviors. Anyone who has been a parent knows it is a waste of time to try to counsel, instruct, or advise children who don’t want to listen and insist on doing things either their way, or not in accordance with what facts and law clearly show is most prudent.
“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.”
[Prov. 1:7, Bible, NKJV]
“The lips of the righteous feed many, But fools die for lack of wisdom.”
[Prov. 10:21, Bible, NKJV]
“Understanding is a wellspring of life to him who has it. But the correction of fools is folly.”
[Prov. 16:22, Bible, NKJV]
What we describe above is what Dr. James Dobson calls “tough love”. He has written an entire book about the subject that you may want to read. It is available at:
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Dadmoonbunny,
The U.S. government operates under all the same constraints as private employers. Those constraints are documented in:
Federal and State Tax Withholding Options for Private Employers
http://famguardian.org/Publications/FedSta…teWHOptions.pdf
Deferred retirement benefits fall in the same category as regular earnings, so far as we are aware, which means:
1. If they don't get a W-4, they can't lawfully either withhold or report any amount for “wages”.
2. If they are given the IRS form W-8BEN modified, they HAVE to stop withholding AND reporting. See:
http://sedm.org/Forms/Tax/Withholding/W-8B…SFormW-8BEN.htm
3. They cannot discriminate against you for failure to disclose or use an SSN. That would be a crime.
42 U.S.C. 408.
4. If you quit social security using the procedures in form #06.002 and then notify the government that the number is invalid and that under 5 USC 552a( 😎 , they cannot keep records, and especially false records, about a number that is no longer valid, then they MUST discontinue using the number that has been rendered invalid by quitting the system using SSA form 521.
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
5. If you notify the VA that the number was never lawfully issued and has been discontinued under the loan or that it has been changed to an account number RATHER than an SSN, they must change their records because it is a crime to use false number information. See p. 1:
http://famguardian.org/Publications/USAtty…ns/usab5301.pdf
Any other questions you must answer with your own research, but that is what we have learned by our own research so far.
This is not legal advice, and the word “you” means ME, the author. Whether this information is pertinent or truthful in your situation is entirely your choice and exclusive responsibility.
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devDelay,
There are TWO address blocks on the W-8: Mailing address and permanent/residence address. The permanent address doesn't need to be a mailing address: that's what the mailing address block is for. Neither do the instructions require that the permanent address is a mailing address. Ask them where the LAW, and not the IRS publications says it has to be a MAILING address for PERMANENT ADDRESS. The law requires no such thing. Try “NONE” instead and see what they say.
Alternatively, you can attach the Affidavit of Citizenship, Domicile, and Tax Status, form #02.001:
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
The W-8BEN article below gives some very good strategies for dealing with your situation, Form 04.001 at the link above.
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devDelay,
Be careful! You can't use the phrase “my SSN” as you did and use this website. 20 CFR 422.103(d) says the SSN belongs to the Social Security Administration, and NOT the person using it. To say “my SSN” therefore implies that you work for the Social Security Administration and are visiting here on official business, in which case you are a “taxpayer”. Do your homework FIRST before you start filling out government forms and digging DEEP holes for yourself.
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Forms/Em…stIndenture.pdf
People who are careless with language, especially on government or legal forms, make good hosts for government parasites. Shape up or ship out. Words mean EVERYTHING and they can enslave you if you use them incorrectly. Don't EVER describe any government issued number as “my number” or the Admin will ban you from this forum and blacklist you because you are a “taxpayer” and we can't allow “taxpayers” to use anything on this website. That's a requirement of the Disclaimer. Read and heed!
http://famguardian.org/disclaimer.htm
As far as the false W-9 you gave them, simply provide a W-8BEN or affidavit of citizenship, domicile, and tax status and then serve upon them a correspondence indicating that it was FALSE and was submitted by mistake.
http://sedm.org/Forms/Tax/W-8BEN/AboutIRSFormW-8BEN.htm
Serve the correspondence via certified mail with a Certificate of service so you have legal evidence that they were notified.
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Forms/Ge…fSvcViaMail.htm
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umdyriah,
Looks like they are playing dumb to avoid the issues. Based on their response, they didn't even read the document. Section 2 of that document makes it VERY clear that the document DOES NOT constitute a renunciation of allegiance or loss of nationality or CONSTITUTIONAL citizenship, but simply an abandonment of statutory “U.S. citizen” status in favor of ONLY constitutional “citizen of the United States” status. We didn't write that document, but our suggestion is that you either fax or email the government's response and what you sent them the second time so that SEDM can perhaps improve the document based on it.
I can't help you directly on this and no one a Family Guardian can answer for that document.
In addition to the above we would:
1. Call their office directly, record the conversation, and ask them why they didn't even read it and aren't dealing with the issues in it. Use the Audio Recorder Pro software to do it and warn them that they are being monitored “for quality assurance purposes” just like they warn you:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/PropertyPr…neRecording.htm
Send SEDM the MP3 recording. The contact information for the Dept of State:
Passport Office
Legal Division
2100 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington, DC 20037
Attn: Sharon Palmer-Royston, Chief Legal Assistant
Voice: (202) 261-8314
Fax: (202) 261-8579
2. Send the document a third time emphasizing the content of Section 2 and exactly what you are asking for. Demand that they do what is requested in the document and ask why they are ignoring your request.
You can find more contact information at the address below to call them on the phone with:
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Thanks Bing. I would also add that the “State of the United States” to which they are referring are the “Corporate” federal territories which the formerly de jure states became AFTER they signed an ACTA agreement to sell their citizens to the federal government for twenty pieces of silver. See the following for details:
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Reb,
Amen to that. Your points are consistent with the following:
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Amen, Professor Bing. Pride and ego always get people in trouble.
1. Pride alienates you from others and cause strife and contention. This is the main defect of pride that the government uses against people in front of juries, in fact.
2. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins mentioned in the Bible.
3. Pride creates a closed mind.
Quote:“Minds are like parachutes: They only work when they are open”4. God resists the proud.
Quote:“God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.? James 4:6, NKJV5. Pride makes you into a welcome target for government persecution, because it antagonizes the government and is the most important sign of personal weakness.
🙂
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The same reason this website is a target of persecution. It was attacked for simply publishing what the law says and encouraging people to read it and obey it. Read about the UNLAWFUL and dastardly deeds of the government in attempting to interfere with the first amendment right of this fellowship to expose and prevent government corruption and violations of law for yourself:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/News…ling-060615.htm
Our LYING, thieving public DIS-servants and the de facto TERRORIST MAFIA they belong to have a very nasty habit of:
1. Finding people who are exposing or interfering with their illegal activities.
2. Making false allegations using bogus complaints authored by fictitious “pseudonames” that aren't even the real identity of the accusers.
3. Targeting the whistleblowers for malicious prosecution.
4. Compelling the whistleblowers to service the high demands and fees associated with participating in their malicious prosecution without compensation to drain them of significant energy and money and therefore resources.
The corrupt government does not fight fair, and doesn't even care what the law says, based on the above link. Just having to endure and participate in the abuse of legal process, even if the whistleblowers are eventually exonerated, is punishment enough for them and results in slavery, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1589(3). Corrupt federal judges who are taxpayers subject to IRS extortion participate in this FRAUD on the public by refusing to hold the government abusers and perpetrators of this malicious prosecution accountable to provide reparations mandated by 18 U.S.C. 1593. You're being naive to believe that this doesn't really happen, based on the experiences of this fellowship.
“Do not cast your pearls before swine” is what the Bible says on this subject.
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Kola,
I have nothing to elect not to share. There is nothing further I can contribute to your efforts. I have revealed EVERYTHING that I can practically reveal about the subject on this forum. Therefore, you have to fill in the rest. I don't have case histories or specific contacts I can share, even though I know them, because their identities, like everyone on this forum, are confidential for very good reasons. They do not frequent this forum, nor have nicknames that I know of, and I won't make up names for them nor reveal the personal details of their situation that might make them into targets. The anonymous nature of this forum limits the extent of information that can practically be revealed without making the sources into targets of government persecution. Therefore, you will have to reinvent the wheel that they, and not I, invented. All I have to offer are starting points and anecdotes, not complete answers. You are attributing malice and willful omission on my part that in fact has no real existence.
I can only show you the result you seek, which is on p. 122 of that Allodial Titles manual. I can't offer you a process on how to get there because I don't know what it is and I can't reveal those who do know what it is. Don't shoot the messenger, but thank him and move on. Don't get accusatory or judgmental towards people for refusing to do work for free that you yourself are peevish about being forced to take responsibility for doing for yourself.
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Kola,
I'm not equipped with the necessary time or resources to answer your questions or especially to advise you as you demand. You are on your own, but we encourage you to study and answer your own questions as we do for ourselves and to post your research in finding the truth on this forum for others to learn from. I simply wanted to give you a starting point, not a college degree or an “effortless education” on the subject.
My suggestion was to UNREGISTER the property, not to PATENT it by registering YET MORE documents. You are going down the wrong road. The document was simply a starting point, and not intended as procedures on how to UNREGISTER properties. p. 122 shows a certificate of UNRECORDING of the property, and that is what I'd try to get. We are not aware of any such procedures you could read, and so you will have to research the process yourself. Others we are aware of who have done this have researched the implementation of the Torrens Act in their state statutes beginning in the 1920's, and located the procedures in the act for unregistering properties. We haven't read the entire Allodial Titles book, but we have not seen any place in that document where the Torrens Act is discussed.
In case you haven't figured out yet, freedom is NOT a spectator sport. You have to EARN it or you don't deserve it. It's a mistake to expect others to do your work or research for you or to depend on ANYTHING but what the law says that you searched for, located, and read with your OWN two eyes. Now please exercise due dilligence beyond this point and take more responsibility for your own education and for educating others on what you learn by posting here. We are looking for LEADERS and CONTRIBUTORS and PRODUCERS in this forum, not more leeches who only want to take from others what they are incapable of producing for themselves.
Good luck
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Patriot Warrior,
As far as we understand it, the reason they can tell you what to do with your property is because you registered it with the county. If you unregister it so that they don't even have any records of it, then they can't tell you what to do with it. Just walk into the country recorder and ask them what you have to do to UNREGISTER or UNRECORD the property. Then record the deed in a foreign county or state where they have no jurisdiction over the property.
The county recorder may drag their feet helping you with this, because this same method also deprives them of the ability to collect property tax. You may therefore have to research the state codes yourself to find the answer, but it's in there. It's a privilege to “Register” your property with the county recorder, and being in receipt of said privilege is what voluntarily conveys to them the jurisdiction and legal ownership over the property, leaving you only with an equity interest.
If you want more details, see the following:
Allodial Titles and Land Patents
If you want to look up the codes in your state, see:
We don't have any data on specific people who have tried this that we can share on this PUBLIC forum, but we know this based on our own reading of the state codes themselves. We also can't offer you assurances or guarantees, but this will at least get you started on the right track.