[Apostle]

Another point of truth.

Why was the sacrifice of our Lord Yeshua required for the remission of sin.

How many times have you been discussing Father's word with other Christians and during the conversation you hear someone in the group say “God's word can be interpreted to mean more than one thing.” Or have you ever been ministering to another “believer” who, when asked if they read their Bible, tell you they can't understand it? You sense the frustration they feel because they clearly want to understand but the things they hear week after week in the church don't make sense when they begin to read the word of God. So instead of questioning what they hear in church they stop reading Father's word. Little do they understand that it's not our Father's word that is unclear but the lies of Satan. There is only one truth. There are many lies.

To begin unraveling the lies of our enemy it's important to understand that our Father has spoken to specific people in his word and these people to whom he has spoken represent peoples upon the face of the earth throughout the generations even unto the end. By understanding who these people are in the past we can understand who they are today as well as in the future. Once we begin to understand who Father was speaking to when he blessed (the children of promise) or cursed (the children of wrath) that Father's word comes into clear focus. I pray Father will help you cast aside the lies of our enemy (and those who follow him) and begin to show you the simplicity that is his word.

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 26:28

One must begin this journey through Father's word by asking themselves why was it necessary that the pure and sinless blood of Jesus be shed to purchase our salvation if the fall of mankind was caused merely by Adam's disobedience to a commandment. By finding the answer to this a whole host of other things become clear. The truth reveals and makes things clear. Deception conceals and confuses.

The Bible says:

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Romans 5:12

Father says through his word that by one man sin entered into the world and because of this death was passed unto “all men” (meaning throughout every generation). This raises another question because Father clearly also says in Exodus 20:5, 34:7; Numbers 14:18 and Deuteronomy 5:9 that he would “visit the iniquity of the fathers unto the the third and forth generations”.

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third or forth generation of them that hate me;

Exodus 20:5

Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the forth generation.

Exodus 34:7

The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

Numbers 14:18

The sin committed by our father Adam and our mother Eve must have been of such a nature that it passed not only to the children of the third and fourth generation but to all men throughout every generation until today and beyond. It was a sin that could only be wiped clean by the pure and sinless blood of Jesus and by nothing else (Matthew 26:28). Why was this the only remedy for this sin? If we meditate upon these questions we soon must conclude that the sin Adam and Eve committed was something that the consequences of would pass physically from one generation to the next. The “sin” was disobedience to Fathers command and the “consequence of that sin” is passed physically from generation to generation. “You shall surely die.”

So why is the pure and sinless blood of Jesus the only remedy for sin? Why not another substance? Why was it anything physical at all? All things that are created were created by our eternal Father. He could have made the price for remission of sin anything. Why his only begotten son's pure and sinless blood? The answer is because his righteous judgment demanded it.

We learn from Father's word that he is the law giver. His is the only justice that is righteous in all it's ways. Does this not suggest the very character of God? Would he not have to be righteous in all his ways before he could give us laws that are? So to say that Father would do anything that is contrary to his laws is blasphemous of the very character of Father himself.

Let's see what Father's righteous judgment demands.

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Exodus 21:22-25

We see according to scripture Father's righteous judgment demands that should the fruit of a woman be damaged or “mischief follow” the penalty must be comparable to the damage. Truly Adam had sinned by disobeying God, (and was driven out of the garden and from before the tree of life), but a serious act was committed such that it was necessary for the blood of Jesus Christ be shed for the payment of the consequences of that act. Restitution for the “mischief that followed” had to be paid according to Father's law.

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Hebrews 9:22

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 26:28

The reason the pure and sinless blood of Jesus was required was because the original sin involved damage to the blood of man . Holding true to God's law blood was the appropriate payment for damage to Father's bloodline (on earth) through Adam and Eve's disobedience. Man had damaged and corrupted the perfect bloodline of God's creation on earth therefore the blood of a perfect (sinless) man had to be the price for restitution “as the judges determine”. Blood for blood.

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1Corinthians 15:21-22

Spiritually we can see that Adam and Eve (mankind) became servants to the master they had chosen to obey.

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are, to whom you obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Romans 6:16

But the scriptures will also make clear that it was indeed the physical blood of mankind that was corrupted thereby bringing death to the flesh. Why is the flesh corrupted by the blood? Again we go back to Father's word to answer our questions.

But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Genesis 9:4

Only be sure thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.

Deuteronomy 12:23

Father tells us that blood is the life of the flesh. (*note* Satanist understand this hence the practice of ritual sacrifice) So if the flesh also passed from life unto death by the act of disobedience of Adam and Eve in the garden then it must have been the pure blood of man's flesh that was corrupted or made impure. Something totally foreign, (not of the same kind), to the pure blood of Adam and Eve was introduced into the bloodline of man and it was corrupted such that death is passed unto all men throughout every generation. We are born into sinful (corrupted) flesh. Why does corrupted flesh lead unto death?

Any mixture of kinds is contrary to God's laws. On the sixth day Father had placed a law in His creation that the earth would bring forth the living creature after his kind.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping things, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and everything that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:25-26

To rebel against this law is to produce something not of it's own kind and it is a sin in the eyes of God. It is to rebel against God's very law of creation. In our wickedness men have always attempted to make our own creation by blending Father's. Today they call it genetic research. But throughout the history of this practice (by Satan and man) it has always resulted in death (sterilization). These abominations become unfruitful (without life) because they cannot reproduce life physically after their own kind. They are products which are enmity to God because they are enmity to the natural laws of God.

Adam was a son of God and he was to bring forth sons and daughters of God “after his kind” unto God. We know that the flesh of Adam and Eve was not corrupted because again on the sixth day Father said:

And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. And God saw everything that he had made and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 1:26-31

So Father tells us plainly that at least until the sixth day when Adam and Eve were created that he created everything after his own seed. The fish after his own seed, the beast after his own seed, the fowl of the air after his own seed, every creeping thing that creepeth upon the face of the earth after his own seed, Adam who was created in the image of God after his own seed and Eve who was created from Adam after his seed, who was created in the image of God. Until now God says, that everything that he had made was “very good”. So now we can begin to understand that two things happened after Eve's encounter with the serpent. Spiritually man became the servant of sin because he submitted to another master and was driven out from before the Tree of Life. Physically the flesh was condemned to death because of the “mischief that followed” the offspring of the strife between Satan and Man. The blood was corrupted and condemned the flesh of man to death throughout every generation. That “mischief” that follows the seed of man (through his blood) was the introduction of something foreign to the blood of man that made the flesh no longer of the pure seed of God. It became a corrupt mixture. That blood was no longer the creation of God but contained a mixture of another kind which was after another seed and it contained all the satanic traits of the blood gene of that seed from the serpent. By his disobedience man had caused “mischief to follow” the pure seed line created by our Father in his own image. The law demanded restitution. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. Man had damaged the pure blood seed line of God so the law demanded payment by man (as restitution to God) of a man who was without sin and of the pure blooded seed line of God just as Adam had been before he disobeyed God. The price was high. There was no hope for payment. By Man's disobedience he had placed himself under the curse of death with no hope of restitution to God. The price of restitution could never be paid by man who was now hopelessly and eternally condemned to death. But great is our Father's mercy.

Does Father's word bear further witness to what has thus far been said? Let's continue and find out.

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isaiah 7:14

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 1:18

Why was it necessary that Jesus Christ bypass ordinary human conception and be virgin born? Many Christians do not know the answer to that question. To them the scriptures above prophesying the virgin birth was only the “proof” that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The reason behind the need for our Savior to be conceived by the Holy Ghost and born of a virgin escapes them. Nevertheless, the truth behind this necessity should be beginning to manifest itself.

The blood of man was involved in the fall of mankind. Therefore Father had to choose blood in his redemption plan (as shown above in Exodus 21:23-25, Hebrews 9:22 and Matthew 26:28 ) because it was required by his law. Our Savior, Jesus Christ, had to bypass ordinary human conception and be virgin born because the blood of man is sinful (polluted) before God. If Jesus had been born by ordinary human conception then he would have surely been “shapen in iniquity, and in sin” (psalm 51:5) and Father's plan for the redemption of man would not have fulfilled the requirements of his own law because “pure innocent blood” had been corrupted at the time of the original sin therefore only “pure innocent blood” could be accepted as payment of recompense per the requirements of the law.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

Mathew 5:17

Jesus knew he was payment for the sin of man and the damage it had done to God's creation. He was sent to pay the full recompense as required by God's law. He fulfilled the law. He paid the price man could not pay. Because God knew man could not pay the price of restitution as required by the law and because he loves us he sent forth prophets to give man hope that he would provide the payment and man would be restored.? He had the lives of men recorded that we would understand by example the things we cannot see. Father showed forth beautifully the hope for man in the example of Abraham who was commanded of God to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice showing forth the price of restitution demanded by the law. It was by the prophesy of Abraham, “God will provide himself a lamb”, that we can understand who would provide payment for our sin. It was our Father who commanded Abraham “Lay not thine hand upon the lad” for restitution was not to be paid by man nor could it. And it was by the ram caught in a thicket by his horn that Father showed forth his ability to deliver that which he has promised. These prophecies also did the Lord fulfill. Jesus fully knew who he was and his purpose on earth.

Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom (payment) for many.

Mathew 20:28

For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom (payment) for many.

Mark 10:45

No one will dispute (even in that little that they have) that in the Old Testament Father required the pure and innocent blood of certain animals that were without spot or blemish to be sacrificed for the atonement of the soul. They will even acknowledge that this was a shadow or type of the coming Messiah. But they cannot tell you why. They resort to “Because it says so in the Bible.” All though it's true “it is written in the Bible” the reason is because Father wanted us to understand it that we might be saved from his wrath. Surely when Father speaks, it is done, but when he deals with man he deals with us on a level we can understand. He doesn't say regarding mankind, “thus sayeth the Lord”, and then not let us understand the reason “why” he said it. It's the “reason” Father says a thing that gives us unlimited understanding of the the things he wants us to see in his word and around us. What Satan has striven to hide is the reason why the shedding of innocent blood was required. Because knowing the reason allows us to correctly discern Father's word. Satan's children, (the children of wrath), can then be traced throughout creation unto our time and even unto the end.

Some denominational preachers today are treading on dangerous ground in teaching the people to believe that Jesus was born of Mary's egg and God's sperm. They believe that to be so because Jesus was God-man, prophetically recognized as the “seed of the woman” and because he had an earthly genealogy, combined with being God and man, he had to have been born of the sperm of God and the egg of Mary. How Satan has deceived them. Had the egg of Mary been involved at all then our Savior Jesus would have been born in sinful flesh instead of being born “in the likeness of sinful flesh” to be made sin for us.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his only Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Romans 8:3

?For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we may be made the righteousness of God in him.

2Corinthians 5:21

Had Mary's egg been involved in the conception of Jesus he would have then been born a sinner because every man born into the world is a sinner by reason of the fall of man which took place in the Garden of Eden. Thus if Mary's egg had been involved in the creation of the body of Jesus Christ, then Jesus would have had the sinful nature that is passed to all men. Of course we know that Jesus was without sin. Just as the body of Adam (who is a type of Christ) was created by God without sin but later became sinful flesh (by his own actions) so too was Jesus wholly the creation of God “in the likeness of sinful flesh” but he was without sin, and became sin for us, according to God's plan, that he would be a pure and blameless sacrifice, acceptable as payment for restitution according to God's law (Exodus 21:22-25). This is the mystery of God. ?Jesus Christ, the body of a man, was the very creation of God. Father created both the sperm cell and the egg cell, and overshadowing Mary, planted the fertilized seed within Mary.?

No where in Father's word does he say Jesus was born in sinful flesh but according to (Romans 8:3) he indeed does say Jesus was born in the likeness of sinful flesh but was without sin.?Jesus was a man born of the womb of a woman but he did not have the sinful nature of our polluted flesh. Jesus was Father again creating man in his own image (after his own kind) without sin.

Since we can safely conclude through the scriptures that corruption of man's pure blood came about in the garden we can further conclude from the things Father has told us that the gateway to the blood was a sexual act. We should ask ourselves, if the sin that occurred in the garden did not include a sexual act, then why did Adam and Eve “sew fig leaves together” to make themselves “aprons” to cover their nakedness?

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Genesis 3:7

And why was the female sexual organ cursed by God that her sorrow and conception were greatly multiplied? Why would women now bring forth children in sorrow? Isn't that the exclusive function of sex? To bring forth children.

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shall bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Genesis 3:16

Those of you who believe that sin came by the literal eating of a literal fruit, (whether apple, pear or what ever), have you never wondered why the sexual organ was covered and cursed, rather than the mouth, if it was indeed the mouth that was involved with the original sin? Or why not the hand which undoubtedly grasped the fruit? Was it not strange for Adam and Eve to cover their sexual organs instead of their mouths? It could not be any clearer that the sexual organ was the guilty member of the body that committed the act of eating of that tree of knowledge of good and evil. Adam and Eve were trying to cover up their guilty parts and hide them from God. Just as little children they attempted to hide what they had done.

It is worth noting here that Adam's (man's) sexual organs were not cursed because Adam was not deceived. Apostle Timothy, while speaking about this event, said “Adam was not deceived”. Noticed he did not say “beguiled” as was the case with Eve. Beguil means to “seduce wholly”, “to deceive”, meaning either one or both, as was the case with Eve. Therefore we can see why Timothy properly used the word “deceived” instead of “beguiled” when referring to Adam because we know he did “partake of the fruit” so he must have been “seduced wholly” the only difference between Adam and Eve was that Adam was not deceived about what he was doing.

Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

2Timothy 2:14

Since Father's word plainly tells us that Adam was not deceived we can only believe that he had knowingly partaken of Eve's transgression. He clearly understood there would be penalties for transgressing Father's law “eat not of the tree of…” but he was willing to share in Eve's punishment (that she may stay with him) and transgressed Father's law. Thus we see even from the fall of man Father began showing forth his plan for redemption from that fall. Our Lord Jesus knew the penalty for sin and was willing to partake of that death and fulfill the requirements of the law (that we may stay with him always) but he did so without transgression of the law (sin). Oh how Father loves us! Even before mankind's sin, Father had made a way for redemption, and it is shown forth many, many times throughout creation..

Because Adam was not deceived he was cursed after another manner. He had lost his birthright of dominion over the earth. He was forced to toil and till the ground, struggling against thorns and thistles.

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow thou shalt eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herbs of the field; in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it was thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Genesis 3:17-19

Adam's birthright kingdom had passed to Satan who became the “god of this earth”. Thus we can see a further type of Christ in that by one man the kingdom was lost by disobedience (Adam) but by the obedience of Christ (the second Adam) was the kingdom restored. Now let's turn our attention to the curse Father placed upon the serpent.

And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou are cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head; and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Genesis 3:14-15

For the moment we are concerned with determining if the serpent has a physical bloodline (serpent seed) upon the face of the earth who can be identified among us today. So we will look at the latter portion of this scripture that deals with that.

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head; and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Genesis 3:15

Most Christians in spiritualizing Genesis 3:15 can only see that “her seed” prophetically refers to the “seed of the woman” , Jesus Christ, who was born of the virgin Mary, and that he (Christ) would crush and defeat Satan who could only bring temporary suffering to him. They either fail to see or choose to disregard the first part of this latter curse where God has placed enmity between the serpent and Eve and between his seed and her seed. There would be a natural enmity between the serpent's seed and the woman's seed. What has confused so many Christians is the term “thy seed” when God was cursing the serpent. They fail to believe Father's word when he said “thy seed” to the serpent meaning his natural (physical) seed just as he was speaking of “her seed” the natural (physical) offspring of Eve. Satan has taken great care to conceal, through the lies of men, that he does indeed have a physical lineage (through the seed of the serpent) upon the face of the earth. Just as Father has a natural (physical) lineage upon the face of the earth, known as the children light, so too does Satan have a natural (physical) lineage upon the face of the earth known as the children of wrath.

The genealogy of a person in the Bible is traced through the side of the man (the father) because the bloodline (genealogy) comes through the male cell. Why then does the Bible not tell us that Adam was the father of all living but instead states that Eve is the mother of all living?

And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

Genesis 3:20

Could it be that Eve became the “mother of all living” through her union with the serpent thus producing Cain as the offspring and Adam was in fact “not” the father of Cain therefore “not” the father of all living because Abel, who was his offspring, had not yet been born? The scripture would seem to confirm just that.

Consider why Adam so named the first son of Eve “Cain”. Cain means “acquisition”. Because Cain was not a naturally begotten son of Adam, but an “acquired” son, was he not thus named “Cain” meaning to be acquired? Also Genesis 4:1-2 indicates there was only one union between Adam and Eve yet two sons were born.

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. And she again bore his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Genesis 4:1-2

There are three very interesting things to note about this scripture. First, although two children were born, the Bible does not indicate they were twins as it customarily does when that is the case. (Such as the examples given of Rebekah and Tamar.)

And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

Genesis 25:24

And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb.

Genesis 38:27

Also we see that upon the birth of these sons, Eve said after the birth of Cain, “I have gotten a man from the Lord”. Some teach because the scriptures say all life, big or small, good or evil, comes from God that this must have been what she was meaning.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7

How men love to twist Father's word. Eve said exactly what she meant. Father intentionally passed to us, through his word, what Eve said immediately after the birth of Cain and before the birth of Abel. She neither said nor meant any such thing about Abel. Had she done so she would have said, “I have gotten men from the Lord”. Thus we see the truth of this matter. Eve knew from whence Cain came. By her statement we can reasonably conclude that Satan, disguised as a god, had deceived Eve into believing he was a god who was imparting to her hidden knowledge withheld from her by The Eternal. (Thus the very beginnings of gnosticism and the worship of other gods. Or as Father has stated or equated many times in his word spiritual fornication.) But even more so we begin to see a shadow or type of the end time when once again Satan will work through the Serpent (albeit through his seed) and deceive humanity into thinking he is god. Once we begin to believe God's word and understand that there are two “seed” upon the earth we will begin to see that this is a recurrent theme throughout Father's written word.

Genesis 4:1-2 appears to contain one last curiosity. “And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.” Father commands us to meditate upon his word. Most Christians just sort of pass over this part of the scripture because they can't quite understand the significance of Father telling us that Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Others just think father is telling us what Cain and Abel did for a living and think nothing more of it. But Father says to meditate upon his word and he would show us the meaning.

Once we begin to accept what Father is showing us in his word, and contemplate on that, we can see that Genesis 4:1-2 reveals, not only are there two seed upon the earth, but Father also gives us a glimpse of the personality that belongs to these two seed. Abel was a keeper of sheep. Being born of Adam and Eve he exhibits more traits that belong to the pure bloodline that God created. Adam and Eve's flesh was not corrupted so any union between them would produce offspring that would exhibit traits belonging to that bloodline. Even though they (and their offspring) were still condemned to physical death for Father had said, “From dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return”, Abel nonetheless exhibited traits more closely associated with the original flesh of his “purebred” parents. Before the curse Adam was given the “job” of being the keeper of the earth including all the beast of the field, fowl of the air, fish in the sea and any other thing that creepeth upon the earth. I am certain that included sheep. We can see that Abel just naturally (according to his flesh) began to follow after what his parents were created to do.

But Cain was a tiller of the ground. We can see by this statement that Cain was exhibiting the nature of the union between Eve and the serpent. Because his was the corrupted flesh, that was cursed as a result of that corruption, we can see that the full weight of the curse was resting upon him and he just naturally (according to his flesh) began to follow after the curse that came forth as a result of the actions of his parents (Eve and the serpent).

Clearly we are beginning to see that Cain was not the seed of Adam but of the serpent. If Cain was a son of Adam, who was a son of God, why did he kill Abel since the characteristic traits of God are righteousness?

And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Genesis 4:8

Would Father's righteousness turn to unrighteousness in Cain that he may commit murder? (Remember: every living thing will bring forth seed after it's own kind) If Cain's murderous act were not from God, then from whom did Cain inherit that trait?

1John 3:12 says “Cain was of that wicked one and slew his brother”.

Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works (actions) were evil, and his brother's righteous.

1John 3:12

Although we can guess. The next logical question is: Who then is the “wicked one” that 1John 3:12 is referring to? The originator of murder. Jesus said, “the devil was a murderer from the beginning” (John 8:44). Satan (the devil) was the one who injected the murderous spirit and other evil traits into Cain's flesh.

What of the lie Cain told God after he had slain Abel? We can see no evidence that Adam or Eve were liars for when asked by Father “who told thee thou was naked” and again “have thou eaten of the tree…” then the answer given by them was an honest account of what had transpired. Not so with Cain.

And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know knot: Am I my brothers keeper?

Genesis 4:9

We can see that when questioned by Father about the location of Abel that Cain followed after the true nature of his flesh and his father and he lied. “I know not:.” Not only can we see that Cain lied to God but we can see in him the unrepentant nature of his father and the boldness to challenge God. “Am I my brothers keeper?” From where did these unrighteous traits come?

Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar; and the father of it.

John 8:44

Jesus tells us plainly. Satan was a murderer from the beginning and not only a liar but the father of it. If Satan is the father of these things than we can only conclude that his offspring (not God's) would exhibit these traits. Therefore it is only reasonable to conclude that Cain was the first offspring of Satan who's evil traits were injected into the bloodstream (therefore flesh) of mankind through Cain as a consequence of what had transpired (as the original sin) in the garden.

Father has hidden these things from the wise (in their own eyes) and revealed them unto babes who trust and believe him above all others. When we do, the truth flows through Father's word, for there is no lie in it.

Many things testify of the truth in Father's word. We must only cast off the lies of Satan and of man. Another such testimony of the the truth is that of the birthright. The birthright belongs to the firstborn alone. Why was Cain, who was the firstborn, not mentioned in the book of the genealogies of Adam (Genesis 5) or in the genealogies of Jesus Christ (Luke 3:23-38)? This is significant as we trace not only Father's bloodline through creation but also the seed of the serpent's.

Although we will expound upon it much more deeply later, notice also that Esau, who was the firstborn of Isaac, is also excluded from the bloodline of Christ because he sold his birthright to Jacob. Of course, as we know, Abel is not counted in the bloodline because the lineage of Adam (therefore of God) stopped through him because he was murdered. Seth then became the replacement for the bloodline of Adam (and God) through whom later came our Messiah, and soon the sons of God, who are created in the likeness and image of Jesus, who is the image of God. Father's seed after it's own kind.

And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and called his name Seth.

Genesis 5:3

Such a short sentence and yet so many answers. Answers that become as clear as crystal when we ask ourselves a couple of questions. For instance. Notice how this scripture makes a point to say that Adam (a hundred and thirty years later) begat a son in his “own likeness and image”. Wouldn't that imply that Adam had a son who was not in his “own likeness and image”? If your wife should commit adultery with another man how long do you suppose it would take before you could get over what had happened? A week? A month? A year? Never? It appears it took Adam (a man who was commanded to replenish the earth) a hundred and thirty years to forgive Eve enough to sire a son of his own. For a hundred and thirty years Adam could not bring himself to touch Eve again but then the word says ” and begot a son in his own likeness and image”. If Cain were Adam's son wouldn't he have been in his father's likeness and image? Why does Father use these two words? “Likeness and image”. Is it because Cain neither looked like Adam (likeness) nor was he reflective of his personality traits (image)? You decide, but think about it carefully because surely your soul is at stake (and perhaps you life as well) because these children are coming into their promised time and many shall be destroyed. As we look more closely at Cain's lineage, upon the earth, we can also see another clue Father has left us. Jude 14 states that Enoch was the seventh from Adam.

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of the these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints.

Jude 14:1

If Cain had been of Adam then Enoch could not be the seventh from Adam but would have been the eighth counting from Adam through his lineage. Nowhere in Father's word is Cain referred to as a son of Adam! If we look at the scriptures for what they say then we can reasonably conclude that mankind was split into “two seed” from the very beginning of man. Father proclaims there would be “enmity” between these two seed until the “seed of the woman” crushes the head of the “serpent' seed”. To deny that one seed doesn't exist (which is what Satan has striven to do) is to miss one of the most fundamental truth's in Father's word. When looked at from any other perspective, which is a lie, then Father's word becomes confusing because we can't understand “why”. But when we read it, and believe it, not letting any man “spiritualize” the meaning then we can see a fascinating journey for man. Both seeds of promise. One to eternal life, the other to eternal destruction. Both seed striving for dominion upon the face of the earth.

Yeshua said:

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Matthew 7:20

And surely you can. If we understand that the fruit Yeshua was referring to was of another “tree”. Another “vine”. Another “lineage” that sprung forth from the garden of Eden, even from the beginning, we can see the “fruit” of this other lineage manifesting itself in mankind and how it is very much active today although we can no longer see the difference in the flesh (as could be done before the flood) because Father's word says:

And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Acts 17:26

By the flood Father “hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth” but it is “by their fruits ye shall know them”.

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Mathew 7:17-20

The beginning of understanding is to know there are two seed upon the face of the earth. One elected to the promise of life everlasting through Yeshua the Christ. The other elected to destruction. Once one begins to see that these are literal people it can be seen from where all the wickedness in the earth emanates. This subject goes much deeper. And this lineage of Satan can be definitively traced throughout history. But the first step is to shake off the lies of the false prophet “harlots” and just understand there are two manner of people and two nations upon the face of the earth. And it is the seed of our adversary who are even today attempting to destroy the seed of Yahweh. Without this understanding one cannot truly understand the events that are happening even now before our very eyes. But once this is understood Father's word comes into clear focus and the things that are happening around us begin to make perfect sense. I pray you will find the way.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Thank you for welcoming me to this forum BOBT12.

I must confess that I am somewhat suprised at the difficulty and outright hostility I have encountered bringing forth Father's word in a forum that purports to be “christian” and also claims to believe in the inaliable rights of freedom of speech and religious expression. But I suppose that just as the government (god) and those who worship it believe these rights only exist if your speech agrees with their beliefs. As far as being Christian, they may very well be, because christianity as it is known today is very much an extension of the beast and the god he worships. Which brings me to my first point of truth.

The cross as well as many of the other symbologies and ceremonies used in the “church” today are pagan in their origin. Father has said:

Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

And again the Lord has said:

Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

Father even reminded the children to take heed and not forget this commandment.

Deu 4:23 Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the LORD thy God hath forbidden thee.

Father was specific about this and said:

Deu 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:

I am certain that what Father is saying is no image period.

But stiffnecked and rebellious “christians” would say that these are old testament laws that no longer apply today. That we are no longer under the law. But they forget.

Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

For by the law is knowledge of sin. Knowledge of sin. We are saved by the grace of Yahweh but the knowledge of sin comes by reading the law. It is the school master that shows us what is sinful and what is not.

Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Father has also made this promise.

Lev 26:3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;

Lev 26:4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.

Lev 26:5 And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.

Lev 26:6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land.

Lev 26:7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword.

Lev 26:8 And five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

Lev 26:9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.

At one time this nation experienced all the blessings mentioned in the above scriptures because there was an understanding of our Father's words. But today we move farther from them and we can see this nation loosing the blessings Father speaks of. And soon the sword will pass through this land.

Another “reason” men give for disobeying Yahweh is that the cross means what a person feels in their heart. In other words they take Father out of the picture altogether and place themselves above God and do what they think right in their own eyes. But Father said:

Deu 4:15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spoke unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

Deu 4:16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

Deu 4:17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,

Deu 4:18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

The day that the Lord spoke to the children at Horeb out of the midst of the fire they heard only a voice and saw no similitude (image). That is the way Father speaks to us today. We hear his voice and know it but we see no similitude.

Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The incorruptable nature of Yahweh can not be translated or transfered to a corruptable image. The living God cannot be represented by wood or stone or any graven image that can neither see nor hear. To do so is an insult to him. But notice something he said:

Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

There are no accidents or coincidences in the things Father says. Lets look at the orgin of the cross and understand why he said this.

For a more thorough explaination you may go here or simply do a google search using the phrase “cross as a pagan symbol”. The history of the cross is clear.

It was a universal symbol used to worship the sun as well as a pagan egyptian symbol for fertility. Asheroth

Setting aside the history of the cross. Let's look at the evidence of the things we can see around us.

Turn on your television today and what do you see? All manner of wickedness being performed for your viewing pleasure. What do many of the people committing this wickedness have in common. They are wearing a cross.

Walk down the beach. What do you see. Nearly naked women (and in some cases topless) laying about everywhere. What do they have around their neck or in their ear. They are wearing a cross.

Check out two homosexuals walking hand in hand. Chances are one of them is wearing a cross in his or her ear.

Look carefully at the hookers you pass on the street at night. More often than not you will see that they too wear a cross.

Pat Robertson, one of the leading televangilist in this nation who no doubt “believes in the power of the cross” has on two occassions called for the assasination of the leader of another country who has done nothing to us and in fact sent free and reduced rate oil to us when Katrina struck to help us. I would surmise he too wears a cross.

I could go on and on but I think you get my point and could no doubt think of examples of your own. My Lord said

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Subconciously they have taken the symbol of the master they obey instead of obeying Yahweh who said make no graven image.

Now for that which Father has shown me.

The cross is the symbol placed upon the forehead of Cain. It was (and still is) used in the same manner as a form of ceremonial pagan worship. It was the symbol used by satan (and at the time understood to be his sign) to lift my Lord above the earth for all to see that he had killed the Son of God and was victorious against him. But his victory was turned to defeat at the ressurection of my Lord.

Today because of their rebellion against Yahweh and the refusal to obey his word those who call themselves christian wear the symbol that points to satan's victory over my Lord instead of to the resurrection of Christ wherein we have hope. That is the root and the reason you see all the worldly things (Satans domain) in the church instead of the power of Yahweh. Because they obey another master whose symbol they wear and know not the Lord nor the Spirit of he who sent him.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Thank you Bing. I can count on you to ask the tough questions. 🙂

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Apostle, why don't you go and preach on a Forum where your preaching is appreciated and your cyber sermons are actually read.?

First, I am not a preacher. Nor a prophet. I am a Son of God (Yahweh) given understanding by the Spirit through Christ Jesus (Yeshua). As to why I am here instead of somewhere else. I am in many places. This being only one of them. I go where I am led of my Father's Spirit. Both in my physical life and on the internet. The medium of communication is not important. Why this particular forum? I cannot say. Father sends out his word to those whom he has chosen. They hear it. I may never see them or even know that they listened. But Father knows.

Regarding your second question:

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Also, can you explain the non-resident alien position to me, thanks.

You and I both know that you need no help regarding the non-resident alien position. It can be found in section 5.6.12 of the Great IRS Hoax book as well as the many individual files posted on the Famguardian.org website. I am certain you have read this material several times. As have I. But this leads to a question for you.

Why does it bother you so that I should post here?

You might ask this question of yourself. I have chosen one thread out of the many available on this forum. And still you protest. Two of the foundational concepts that the entire website Famguardian.org is built upon is freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression. Would you deny me these very freedoms this site claims to be a proponent of?

No. The reason it bothers you is because you are trapped in darkness. Your time is consumed learning the words of the master you have chosen to follow. The government god you have chosen to worship. The beast.

Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

You worship him with your time and effort. You think that you struggle against the beast but you have wandered into a trap. You would attempt to fight the evil one on his own turf.

Luk 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Luk 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

Notice the devil showed Yeshua all the kingdoms of the earth. These kingdoms are the world governments. They have been given over to satan from the beginning. He was able to offer the power and glory of them because they are his to command. He works through them.

You expect satan's religion of man (government) to play fairly with you and adhere to the rules if only you can find the right laws to subdue it. But you clearly have no understanding. Satan has no respect for mans law nor Yahweh's. Those who follow after satan exhibit the same traits. In government it is corruption. It matters not that you should pile a mountain of evidence of the truth (man's truth) in front of them they will still judge unrighteously. You have lost.

Outside of government it is those who would proclaim to be proponents of the laws of man, or the freedoms thereof, or even the rights thereof, and yet when someone exercises that right and it becomes distasteful to the proponent of freedom they would attempt the quash it or pass other laws to suppress it. They have no regard for the Law's of Yahweh nor (regardless what they say) do the they have regard for the laws of man. Just as their father. These give power to the beast.

The beast I have been called to fight can only be fought effectively with the truth. Yahweh's truth. It is a much broader fight. Democracy, Socialism, Communism, religion, multiculturism, medicine, law, industry, science, etc. etc. are all tenticles of the same beast. They all spring from a much deeper source and they are well along the path of merging into one.

The most effective way to fight this enemy (although Father calls men to fight in other ways as well to try them) is to shine the light of Father's word upon them to reveal who they are. They can only work in darkness (behind the scenes). Because when they become exposed their works come to nothing. They can only work if one is deceived. Hence the need for the truth.

The tools you offer are weak and inneffective because they are made by man. The heavy fines, ruination of life and lengthy prison sentences recieved by people in “the movement” is ample testimony of that. I come offering tools that cut the beast assunder. And yet you reject me because you believe only in the things you can see and deny the power of the One True God who works all things to his good will and pleasure. You do not understand that you are involved in a much bigger fight and it is about to reach it's pinnacle. You cannot change that which has been afore ordained. Even though you struggle against it. But you can prepare. The best preparation is to recieve the truth and understand what is going on around you and why.

The question is:

Do you rely upon your own strength (and the laws of man) or do you truly have faith and rely on the strength and Glory of the Eternal Father whom none can oppose? Choose this day which master you will serve.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Yes. I suppose the point could best be explained by something said to me in a private message. In that p/m the person said they were spreading a message and trying to keep the world from falling apart.

My mission is somewhat different. The world is immersed is darkness. It's “falling apart” is preordained. Not the end mind you but the beginning of troubles. I have been called to be a servent to my brethren whom my Lord is waking from their slumber (quickening from the dead). To present them the truth and to prepare them for things which will shortly come to pass. Men have foretold of this time for centuries and even today preach about it on Sunday. But none believe the time has come.

The truth will set them free.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Although I'm not the kind to research this particular subject matter myself I am certain there are several in this forum who will double check and triple check the source. If it pans out by their verification I would say that's a good find. How can a person view a copy?

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Sonik,

Thank you for responding. I've had three very good days of work (and worship) at the place appointed to me by my Lord . I'm feeling pretty good and the sabbath has begun. By his Spirit Father has shown me many things over the past three days and he has revealed you to me.

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

John 8:43

He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

John 8:47

I have over the past couple weeks watched you going to and fro across the topics of this forum seeking whom you may devour. But my Lord hath said to me…

Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

1 Peter 5:6-8

I've told you truth and yet;

And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things: Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

Luke 11:53-54

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

John 8:44

I have confessed my faults in public. And have prayed for you.

Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

James 5:16

And I have conceeded my share of responsibility concerning your initial accusations and acknowledged my fault.

Agree with thine adversary quickly, while thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

Mathew 5:25

And yet you continued to accuse me just as your father accuses the brethren….. But he shall be cast down.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Revelation 12:10

I have tried to warn you of those things which are to shortly come to pass.

Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

Ezekiel 3:17

That because of it's sins this nation (U.S.A.) will soon be attacked and destroyed.

Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:

If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;

Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

Ezekiel 33:1-5

And I have revealed to you the consequences of your sin as spoken to me by my Father.

When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Ezekiel 3:18

But you have not listened to me.

Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Nor have you confessed your sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 john 1:8

I have been accused of judging you, but it is not I who judge you.

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 5:30

For my Lord hath said:

And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant.

Luke 19:22

I have even been asked if I thought myself God. To which I replied I am a Son of God through Christ Jesus.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:14

And I have tried to explain to you that my Lord and I are one just as my Lord and the Eternal Father are one.

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

But you have thought yourself clever.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 2:14

And have not discerned against which Spirit ye struggle.

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 1:25

But you have been revealed.

The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious; but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself. The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.

Ecclesiastes 10:12-13

And just as the serpent twisted the Eternal's words by quoting Father out of context.

Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Genesis 3:1

So too have you done the works of your father to the servant of the Lord.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

John 8:44

But thou hast been revealed.

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Romans 16:17-18

You have stated that “the movement” has been slowed by misinformation but it has been hampered more by people like you who cause division and strife between the brethren.

And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

Mathew 12:25

Because of your fear and paranoia you accuse anyone new of being an agent of the IRS or DOJ. And I say “so what” if they are watching. They can do nothing if my Lord does not allow it.

The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.

Proverbs 28:1

And because you are as your father who's pride would cause him to say in his heart that he would exalt himself above the throne of Yawheh. You too, because of thine pride, have exalted yourself above men and declared yourself “hardball constable” of Family Guardian website.

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isaiah 14:13-14

And most men would not subject themselves to your abuse. But I am not most men. I am a son of God through Christ Jesus who has no fear of the wicked.

A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

Proverbs 25:26

And even though I have offered you the truth you have sought to discredit me.

And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

John 8:45

But there is another here who hath heard the truth. Because Father has shown me.

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 14:26

And I have had no man teach me. But the Spirit of my Lord.

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 john 2:27

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:9-10

And this, among the many things, I have been taught.

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Isaiah 55:11

For the Son hath revealed the Father to me.

All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

But there is another who will hear his Masters voice.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

John 5:25

Though we were dead in our sin we yet live. For we know our Masters voice.

For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

John 5:21

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

John 10:27

It is to that child that my Lord speaks.

Take heed of your soul Sonik for the deciever has you firmly in his grasp. I will pray that you would escape.

[Apostle]

JWR,

Thanks for asking the questions you have asked. I don't know which of us would profit (gain) more from the answer to the “contradiction”. You or I.

I read your questions just prior to going into the mountains and have not had an opportunity to answer them until now. Even now I only have a short amount of time before I return to the mountains so the answers will be brief and if you are still interested I can go into a much greater depth on a rainy day. But for now (while the weather is nice) I must be about the things Father has shown me to do.

Regarding the trinity. The bible is absolutely clear who Yeshua was. It states over and over as directly as it can possibly be said that Yeshua is the Son of Yahweh. Yeshua never claimed to be any thing other than the Son of Yahweh and in fact related a parable to those listening to further illustrate his point that there would be no confusion.

Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:

And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.

And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.

Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.

But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.

But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.

And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.

Mathew 21:33-39

In the above parable Yeshua is speaking of himself as the Son of the Householder (Yahweh) who had planted the garden. The servants before him were the prophets. The original husbandman was Adam who was given the task of caring for the earth. The other husbandmen were his descendants. It shouldn't be too difficult to figure out. And yet the “trinity” persist. Why?

The answer is because prior to 300 AD there was no such thing as the trinity in the christian church. The Church at the time of Constantine was looking to convert the many pagans who worshiped a truine Godhead into the church to gain the money the pagans spent in offering to their gods. (I could go into this topic in depth also but this is just a brief explaination.) There was a problem though. The christians worshipped on Saturday. So what he did was he made it a penalty punishable by death to worship on any other day than Sunday which was the pagan day of worship. The Roman church began manufacturing “idols” for the pagans to purchase and worship such as the statues and all the other idols we see in the catholic church today. The Holy days were converted to coincide with the pagan holidays so that both the church and pagans would celebrate these times on the same days and would (as has happened) blend together. If you will look into the origins of the moday “christian” holidays you will find they are rooted in paganism. I could go on an on about this subject but I don't have (at the moment) the time.

The main point is that Father calls the woman riding on the back of the beast the whore because she has joined herself with other “gods” and she has daughters (the harlots) who also worship other “gods” who are known today as the trinity. If you will search this out you will find that this form of “triune” (pagan) godhead was actually established at the time of Nimrod (by his wife Samarimus) who built Babylon. She (the whore) was supported by the government at the time of her inseption (Nimrod, Constantine and others) and is supported by the government of today through 501c3 tax breaks. The beast she rides is a form of government that was, that is and will be as seen in the revelations of John.

Now to address your next point about my percieved contradictions. To begin I would like to quote a bit of scripture.

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Galatians 5:17

You have done well to point out the “contradiction” and I in no way see it as “splitting hairs” because it leads to a very deep spiritual concept. In fact I could go further and point out other “contradictions” I have spoken as well. Why? Because the Spirit that is within me, sent by my Lord, wars against the flesh in which I am trapped. You are witnessing this firsthand. I'll give you a couple more examples to help you understand this.

That we own nothing is the truth. Everything we can see and even the things we can't belong to Yahweh. These are things the Spirit would show you. Then I would turn right around and say “I would die for what is mine”. What is mine”? Nothing. The statement “what is mine” is the flesh in me speaking out. This is the part that I am striving to overcome. I am on the narrow “path” and all though I have come a long, long way I still have a way to go yet.

Let me point out another “contradiction” to you.

I said, “I would fight”. Why would I make such a statement when Father has made it clear through his word that he would fight our battles? He showed us through his Son in the many times that he passed from the midst of his enemies that they cannot touch those that are his. By the many battles and victories he has given his people he has shown that even though you are greatly outnumbered and without hope that it is he who would give us the victory over our enemies and that we would emerge victorious. Father has shown me that he is my protector. He has shown me that no man, not the IRS, not the DOJ, not anyone including the spawn from (censored) can touch me unless he allows it. I have to do nothing more than stand at the entrance to the land he has given me (to care for) and cry out to him and the earth itself will swallow up mine enemies. And yet I would say that “I” would fight. Why? Because I was raised up just as you. Because I am a man just as you. I was taught to hate injustice. To love my country and my fellow man. I was taught to be self sufficient and to rely on my own strength instead of the strength of Yahweh. I was taught to abhor evil and evil men. I was taught to “fight” for God and country. To stand for what I believe.

And yet I would say “I will fight”. My Lord would say: “Oh ye of little faith”. These are the struggles that go on within us. This is the flesh striving against the Spirit. These are the things I strive to overcome.

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

2Co 7:1

It is not I who cleanses these things but the Spirit of my Master who dwells within me. He shows me my shortcomings in exchanges such as these and through other “lessons” in life. As he shows them to me I struggle to remove them as best I can. Not because he makes me but because I want to. Just as a little child who wants to be pleasing to his parents and wants to obey them and who takes all they say as the truth I too love my Lord and want to be pleasing to him and I take all that he shows me as the truth. It is because of our obedience that he rewards us with things that the wicked can neither see nor hear for they are “contrary” to him.

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Romans 8:7

Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

James 4:4

So you see. These things you count as “contradictions” are indeed what they seem. But it is a deeper struggle they are evidence of. To be a friend of this world is to be an enemy of God because this world is nothing more than an illusion created by our enemy and the enemy of Yahweh. If you would listen I could show you the things Father has shown me and you would understand that the meaning of this is literal. Government, banking, Law, Medicine and religion (just to name a few) are all creations of Satan through man to destroy man and attempt to make Yahweh a liar but all these things will disapear in the brightness of his coming.

Until then it is up to us to allow Yeshua to show us the way and to purge us of all these “impurities” that will be burned up at the time of the end. Will I in the heat of discussion or battle place my foot off the path from time to time. Yes. It is then I ask my Lord to forgive me my lack of faith. And he gently places me back upon the path he has called me to walk.

Am I God? Heaven forbid. I am a Son of God through Christ Jesus. Just as he was sent to point men to the way to God I have been called and chosen to point men to the way to Yahweh through his Son Yeshua. I have been called to do ohter things as well but to speak them would confuse you and I am out of time. I would anser more of your questions when I return and as I am able. It is by conversing about these matters (without the name calling and accusations) that we may be able to get to the bottom of this and perhaps you will learn that I speak only the truth to you and am not your enemy.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

JWR,

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Mathew 5:9

Since these words were spoken by my Lord I will give it another try. But based on past performance of certain persons in this forum, not only in this thread but many others as well, I expect this will only unleash another torrent of verbal abuse, name calling and another tirade of unsubstantiated allegations I work for the IRS or DOJ. But here it goes anyways.

“I said I wouldn't get into the discussion between you and Sonik”

In that post you tried to “qualify” your involvment by saying you weren't getting involved and then proceeded to say I was a “liar by ommision” and you qualified that statement with:

“There appears to me to be a bit of deception here.”

I'm sorry but to “not get involved” is to remain silent on the sidelines while Sonik and myself worked it out.

“This does not mean that I “deal decietfully with the servants of Yahweh” as you appear to be accusing me of.”

I wasn't accusing you of anything. That statement was directed toward Sonik which my statement directly after the above qoute:

“I will pray that Father will have mercy on him.”

should have indicated. Since the post was directed as a response to you and your “non-involvement” defense of Sonik it should have been clear I would be praying for him. Which I have by the way.

“What did Sonik do? Catch you being misleading, and possibly “decietful”?”

No. I have thought very long and hard about this whole matter. I will concede that I could have been quicker to give Bryan the credit and this whole matter may have been avoided. ( I am deeply sorry!) I, like every other human on the planet, makes mistakes and I have learned a great deal from this interchange. But I am telling you the absolute truth when I say that it was not my “intention” to mislead anyone. It never entered my mind. I was focused more on the message and Sonik's desire to interact personally and my great desire to help him than I was on taking any credit. That is why his overall response shocked me so. It was filled with such venom and wrath. What did he do? Instead of doing what I would have done if I had a question about where the material originated from and just ask he made a public spectacle of calling me a liar and a fraud while unleashing a tirade of verbal abuse that was beyond my comprehension as a rational person. What had I done to him (other than try to help him) that could have possibly made him so angry?

“I believe Sonik to be a truth seeker and actually likes to debate. He also doesn't seem to mind pointing things out that are amiss.

I don't know Sonik well enough to know beyond the posts in this forum and the the things he says in them to determine whether or not he is a truth seeker because most of the post I have read seem to indicate he finds most of his “enjoyment “pointing out thing that are amiss” in the most abrasive manner possible more than anything else. In other words it seems to me he derives most of his happiness at the expense of others while “Denigrating or criticizing or using derogatory nicknames for other board members” (which is a violation of forum rule “4) over the slightest infractions to what “he” perceives the rules are when I don't answer to him. I answer to Yahweh only.

That brings me to another point. He called me an agent of the IRS or the DOJ. Since he doesn't “know” me he couldn't possibly know how deeply that hurt me. So I am going to reveal a little about myself so you can get an idea.

You will recall that early on posting to this forum I tried to tell him some things I and my wife had seen via vision from Yahweh. That was six years ago. Almost seven now. Back then I was employed making very good money for a pharmaceutical company. Since that time, because of the things I have been shown, I now live in the back woods of West Virginia making about ten dollars an hour less than I was at that time. Yahweh put me here. But that's not all. It took me two years to find the land Father had shown me and my wife in the visions. I have been working very, very hard to literally dig a hole into the mountain side and build a place to store food, tools and other things I have been told to put back. Not for myself but for others. The time that is coming is beyond description and it will totally shock the people of this nation because we have never had to fight an enemy on our own soil. Many people will commit suicide because they just won't be able to absorb it into their minds. They just won't be able to accept the “reality” of it and will take their own lives. That's where I and my wife come in. Our Lord has shown us that we will be feeding others who have survived in the area. Not only that but I will be making war with the beast. I have seen my death, also in a vision. But that's not important. What is important (to this discussion) is that a little less than a year ago the IRS sent me a letter saying that I owed them $8,000.00 for 2002. Over the course of a few weeks it escalated to the point where now they are trying to take the land I have been working so hard on for nearly three years. It is only by the grace of Yahweh that they have not succeeded. Now for the part that hurt me so badly when Sonik and Bing accused me of being “one of them”. I am a man of principle. I know the truth regarding the income tax because of the efforts of not only Family Guardian and others of this forum but others as well. Now what do I do with that information? Will I stand and fight or give in? I say this here and now for anyone to read. No one will take what Father has given me without it first come to blood. Not the IRS. Not the DOJ. Not anyone they send. I will stand and fight to the death for what is mine. I am willing to die for what is mine. The question is how many of them are willing to die and leave their families fatherless over what is mine? My wife knows me. That's why I catch her crying from time to time. She knows I take this matter very seriously and will not back down. Even though they kill me.

You folks worry and wonder about court proceedings and such. It will never get to court for me. I will fight to the death. That's the ONLY way tyranny is fought. You can delay it. You can ignore it. (for a while) But it will always boil down to violence because the bully will have it no other way. The more you give the more he will want until you have nothing left. I'm not talking about money only. I'm talking about your freedoms as well. Everyone wants to talk. I will fight. I've already accepted my death. I have eight kids who I love very dearly and it would be only to easy to give in and just let them (the IRS) just have the land. But what kind of country would I be leaving my five year old son. I would die before I allowed him to become somebody elses slave. And I will.

I told you I'm serious. I'm so serious that my wife and five year old son are soon to move out to that land. No electricity, to running water, no modern conveniences at all. We'll just be out of the weather until I can get things “squared away”. I'm also about to quit my job and try to make it on what Father sends me and what he shows me to do so that I can totally separate from the beast. There is nothing of him in me and he resist my separation every step of the way. But separate I will even if it is by my death. I'm only waiting on the word from my Lord to move.

So your friends can call me all the names they want. Liar, fraud and whatever else they care to. Those things don't hurt. Father knows the truth and that's all that matters to me. But when they decide to call me one of the very people who will no doubt kill me some day over what I consider to be my duty, then they have gone too far and they have hurt me deeper than you can know. I cannot let that go unchallenged.

I deeply regret not being able to finish this now but I worked a twelve hour shift last night and I've only had two hours sleep today and have to go at it again tonight and I'm tired. If you would like me to answer the rest of your post I will. But please just ask. I'll try to be more careful in the future. Isn't that the least we can do for each other?

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Mathew 5:11-12

And when ye come into a house salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it, but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Verily, I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgement, than for that city.

Mathew 10:12-15

The blood of those who did not hear the truth because of thine wickedness be upon you.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

JWR,

Do you read your Bible? If not then you should have someone point out to you a few examples of what happens to those who deal decietfully with the servants of Yahweh. I will pray that Father will have mercy on him.

Sonik knows what he did. Lets not muddy the waters. He cared not for discovering the truth. If he did then that is what he would have debated. The content of the material. But because he either couldn't or never had any intention of doing so he resorted to trickery, deceit and showed forth all of the inherent traits of the master he follows and attacked the messenger.

You speak of “lying by ommision”. Are you saying that everytime Yeshua said “It is written” without quoting the exact source “where it was written” that he was lying? I would hope not because there is something Yeshua as well as all the other true servants of Yahweh understand that the children of darkness cannot seem to grasp. Truth flows from the throne of Yahweh and from nowhere else. There is no truth aside from him. He is the author and originator of the truth and no one else. Everything else is a lie. Wicked men like to take “credit” for the truth and loudly proclaim that which already is when it was not they who created it nor established it. Bryan T. Huie understands this. Go to his site and look at every single page. You will not find one disclaimer, copywrite or other devise men use to shut up the truth. He is a servent of Yahweh and as such he understands that the truth is not his but Yahwehs and gives of it freely.

On the other hand. Deception, lies, words of art, presumption and all the things that Famguardian.com condemns the government of doing (and rightfully so) are traits of Satan who is the originator of these things. Don't you think it a bit hypocritical for Sonik to condemn the government for doing these things and then use the exact same tactics with me. Has he never heard of entering into a conversation or transaction in “good faith”? Had I known that he was only interested in trapping me in some indiscretion (either real or percieved) I would have been more on my gaurd against it and would have gone to greater lengths to protect myself from him. But I chose to trust that his quest for the truth was sincere and acted accordingly. How did he repay me?

Once a person becomes accustomed to following after the Spirit of Yahweh they begin to understand there is a proccess that Father uses when communicating with his children. First there is revelation. He reveals a thing to us by his Spirit. We “see” the thing he wants us to “see” and we know it to be the truth. Then he gives us knowledge. In other words he puts the things in front of us to explain the thing he has already shown us in our spirit by his Spirit. He does this in many different ways. It may be scriptures directly out of the Bible. It may be a piece of history that confirms what he has shown us. It may be an article that was written by Bryan T. Huie or Chris Hanson for that matter. The truth has been scattered to the for corners of the earth by satan and those who follow him. He cannot destroy it because it is not within his power. All he can do is mix it up and blend it with lies to make it appear to no longer be the truth. But it is still the truth. What Father does is he places these things in front of his children and by his Spirit he seperates out the truth from the lies and places things back in their correct order. And the truth becomes clear again. Now does it matter where the truth came from or who wrote it? (I speak as a man) No. Because the truth belongs to Yahweh and he gives of it freely to his children. It's his to give. Or withhold. But it is still his. The man who “penned” the truth or recorded it on paper is nothing more than a tool to be used in Yahweh's hands. Because we are his also to be used as he sees fit. It is the man who tries to claim the truth as his own who is the thief because he is incapable of seeing it or understanding it unless Father shows it to him.

In the things Father has revealed to us by his spirit and because of the knowledge he has placed before us we gain understanding. That is when your “spiritual eyes” begin to open and you “see” things the wicked cannot even comprehend. It is foolishness to them. Just as your friend Sonik they are more interested in the things of this earth like copywrite, possession, credit, profit and a whole manner of things that by their clammering they think they can control when it is Father's to give or withhold. When he decides to give there is nothing on this earth nor in the heavens nor under the heavens that can stay his hand. They are his. It is the same should he decide to withhold. Who would take it from his hand against his will?

There is on the horizon a day coming when your friend will see his Judge and indeed the Judge of all creation. In the blink of an eye he will be shown all the oportunities he was given to recieve the truth. Whether it was I that spoke it or Bryan T. Huie that wrote it. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he will understand that he rejected it and just as Yeshua came to the earth and was attacked and crucified by the children of satan because they could not bear to hear the truth he will know that he has sealed his own fate and richly deserves his place in the lake of fire created for satan and all those who follow him. He will cry out for mercy and wish he had listened and studied the truth set before him instead of bickering and backbiting over such foolish things as “who was the author” or who “gets the credit” or any number of other things Satan sets before man to distract them from the truth. But it will be too late. He will have had his chances and rejected them all. It is a fearful thing to found in the hand of the Living God. And he will find this out. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Sonic,

You are correct about the works I have quoted as being authored (first by Yahweh) and then through his servant Bryan T. Huie. I have not decieved you regarding this. In fact I am happy that you placed the links to his writings in this post for anyone who cares to go and read. Not only the material I have quoted but some of his additional (inspired) works as well.

Regarding my being a liar I would beg to differ. According to the Oxford American Desk Dictionary and Thesaurus:

plagiarize

1) take and use (the thoughts, writings, inventions, etc. of another person) as ones own.

2) pass off the thoughts, etc. of (another person) as ones own.

Not once, nowhere in these post or in email did I claim those writings as my own. In fact had you asked me I would have sent you directly to the very same links you posted on this board. But let's see what you did say.

“Because this forum has some of the most fascinating minds that I know of, I believe talking about religion here would not only be educational, but also I can feel more comfortable talking to people here. The only reason why I say this is because it is so “offensive” to talk about religion with people these days. I do not like that – I want to talk about religion. Again, while I know for a fact that this forum has some terrific minds on this subject, I wish to INTERACT through forum conversations rather than read about the pamphlets that were prepared by SEDM or FAMGUARDIAN. Forum discussion are more interactive and there is always a record of what has been intereacted.”

So, it was my understanding, you wanted to INTERACT through forum conversations rather than reading pamphlets. Isn't that what we are doing?

(I seriously doubt that if you called a pamphlet a liar and plagairist that you would in turn recieve a response)

But this does bring me to another of your questions. You asked how the Bible could be written by many men over a long period of time most of whom never met each other nor met Yeshua (in the flesh). And this is a mystery to the whore and to the harlots. You can hear them say that “God is alive” and that “Jesus” lives but you can tell by their actions that they don't mean it or understand it to be literal. If you read my post regarding How Yahweh (The eternal Father) and Yeshua (his Son) are One then you would understand that the Holy Spirit is the mind of Yahweh (the Eternal Father). Having said that I would ask you this. If Bryan T. Huie and I are both led of the Holy Spirit (the mind of the Eternal Father) are we not as one? Did you not read the quotes where Yeshua asked Yahweh that his followers be as one just as they were one? The answer is that we are as one because we are led of the same mind and Spirit of the eternal Father. We are two men of one mind (Yahweh's). Thats how the Bible was written. Many men. One mind.

If you understood that NOTHING happens by chance (not even a sparrow falling to the ground) and that Father works all things according to his good will and pleasure then you would also understand that even these events on this forum have not happened by accident. What better way to illustrate how the Spirit of Yahweh works. You asked some questions which the answers to were pretty straight forward. Even though men and decievers have so twisted and confused the people that they no longer seem as simple as they are. Then you asked other questions that are more difficult and can only be explained through the working of the Spirit. And thus I recognize how Father has moved things in a way that I could explain to you how his Spirit works. To him is the Glory.

Regarding the things Bryan has written. Do you think he can call them his own? Oh foolish man. We own nothing. All things belong to Yahweh. He gives them to men according to his good pleasure. (Even our thoughts) We are nothing but dirt. We can own nothing. It is the pride of man to think he can “own” anything. Men would like to think that even the actions they take are their own “free will” (another lie of the whore) but there is no such thing. We act according to the spirit that we follow. We do the “works” of our Father who influences us by his Spirit. The children of Light follow after the Spirit of Life unto life everlasting and the children of darkness follow after the spirit of their father unto death. Yeshua made this plain also.

That is why I said if you are meant to see you will see and if you are not you will not. It is not because you resist myself or Bryan T. Huie but it is because you resist the very Spirit of Yahweh. Yeshua said: my sheep hear my voice and know me and I them and they will not follow another. You do not resist because of your own “free will” but because of the voice you recognize. The spirit of the father you have chosen to follow. It is he who resists the truth. You and I are only pawns in a bigger game. We are the physical manifestation of the things that are happening on a “spiritual” level. Just as the writings you claim I stole flowed from Yahweh (Spirit) to Bryan T. Huie (physical) and became physical manifestations (on paper) of something spiritual so too are the actions of man. We are the physical manifestation of things happening in the spiritual world being played out here on the face of the earth. You cannot seperate the two. No matter how hard man tries to seperate himself (from God) and become the author of his own destiny. It is not within our power.

Now back to your latest post. I would quote you here.

“It appears it took you a very-very-very long time to type this on this forum”

I responded that it took a couple of hours. Which it did. Now how does that equate to me claiming to be the author of the material? We were talking about typing on this forum not who authored the material. In fact you reveal my truthfulness by another of your statements.

“You even private messaged me stating you were someone else.”

Is that not telling the truth. You asked me my name and I truthfully told you David. That is my name. I did not try to decieve you and pretend to be Bryan. Nor did I try to claim his work as my own. You did not ask me who authored the work. Had you asked I would have told you. But these events have revealed something very interesting.

“APOSTLE – I am sorry that I have to do this, but I must, therefore I will.”

I agree with you. It is the workings of your father that you must do. Just as satan used deceptive language in the garden to twist the things Father had said to decieve Eve so too have you twisted the things that transpired between you and I to decieve those who would read this post. You took a statement of how long it took me to “type” the posts in this forum and then tried to construe that statement to somehow mean that I “authored” the things which were posted. Shame on you.

I hold no ill will toward you. In fact I will pray earnestly that Father will have mercy on you and not sacrifice. The day is quickly approaching when all the children of darkness will again witness firsthand the Glory of Yahweh through his children. And many will be saved. In the meantime my Lord Yeshua said: ask what ye will and it shall be given unto you”. I will ask that he have mercy on you and open your eyes and that he not punish you for your wickedness. I understand you have done these things because of your blindness. Not only to the things I have said but also to the master you obey. You cannot even see the darkness wherein you walk.

Let me know how it goes for you over the next few weeks. I would like to know. I will be praying for you.

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Sonic,

It only took a couple of hours very early in the morning. I am trying my hardest to keep it brief but the decievers have so twisted Fathers word and confused the people that it takes a thorough explanation to clear these things up. Once you see the truth you will have built your house upon the rock and even though the winds should blow and waves crash you will not be moved.

Since you asked about the Holy Spirit and since (lambskin) spoke as the decievers and tried to use the book of John (as the false prophets use it) I will bring further light to you regarding this topic and correct his error.

How are Yahweh (The Eternal Father) and Yeshua (his Son) one.

To most Jews, including many Messianics, the nature of God is defined in the Shema:

” Hear [shema'], O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one [echad]!

Deuteronomy 6:4

Messianics apply this understanding of the oneness of God to a confusing statement by Yeshua recorded in the tenth chapter of John's Gospel. In response to the Jews' request to confirm that he was the prophesied Messiah (John 10:24), Yeshua stated:

“I and the Father are one [hen].”

John 10:30

What did he mean by this declaration? Was Yeshua here applying the Shema to himself and stating that he and God the Father were the same being? Was he proclaiming that he was co-equal and co-eternal with the Father, as Trinitarianism teaches? Was Yeshua saying that he and the Father were of the same essence or substance? Just what exactly was he trying to convey?

We will closely examine the Hebrew word for “one” (echad) a little later. First, let's look at the Greek word hen.

In Vincent's Word Studies of the New Testament, the late Professor Vincent states that hen, the Greek word translated “one” in John 10:30, is “the neuter, not the masculine είς, one person” (p. 197, vol. II).

Regarding this statement by Yeshua, the Abingdon Bible Commentary says: “V. 30 does not affirm a metaphysical unity, but a moral, and we must not read the later creeds into the words” (p. 1079).

In A Commentary, Critical, Experimental, and Practical, Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown write of this verse:

Our language admits not of the precision of the original in this great saying, 'We (two Persons) are One (Thing).' Perhaps 'one interest' expresses nearly, though not quite, the purport of the saying. (p. 414, vol. III, part I)

The use of hen in John 10:30 clearly indicates that Yeshua was not claiming that he and the Father were the same being. An examination of how the same Greek word hen (“one”) is used in other Scriptures will help us see what Christ did intend to convey by his statement.

Let's look at Yeshua's prayer to the Father on the night before his crucifixion. In this supplication, he speaks several times of the state of being “one”:

“I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be ONE [hen] even as We are.

John 17:11

Here Yeshua prays that God the Father would keep his disciples in His name (Heb. YHVH, the very same name which the Father had given to Yeshua), that they could be one just as Yeshua and God were one. The key question that we must answer about this statement is this:

How was it possible for Yeshua's disciples to be ONE in the same way that Yeshua and the Father were ONE?

A little later, Yeshua reiterates his request to God regarding the “oneness” of all believers:

“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in me through their word; 21 that they all may be ONE [hen], as You, Father, are in me, and I in You; that they also may be ONE [hen] in us, that the world may believe that You sent me. 22 And the glory which You gave me I have given them, that they may be ONE [hen] just as we are ONE [hen]: 23 I in them, and You in me; that they may be made perfect in one [eis], and that the world may know that You have sent me, and have loved them as You have loved me.”

John 17:20

Here Yeshua further defines the “oneness” shared by him and his Father. He says that the Father was IN him, and that he was IN the Father. Before we can go any further, we must first identify HOW God the Father was in Christ, and HOW Christ was in the Father.

To see how the Father was in Yeshua, we need to go back to the time of his baptism:

When all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while he prayed, the heaven was opened. 22 And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in you I am well pleased.” 4:1 Then Jesus, being filled with the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Luke 3:21

As the symbolic form of the dove indicated, the Father came to dwell within His Son through the Holy Spirit at the time Yeshua's ministry began. Of course this does not mean that Christ was void of the Holy Spirit before this time. However, at his baptism Yeshua was given an unlimited measure of the Holy Spirit (John 3:34) to fulfill his earthly mission.

To fully understand how the indwelling of God the Father in Yeshua was through His Spirit, we must grasp the true nature of the Holy Spirit. Most Christians believe that the Spirit is the third person in the divine Trinity. However, this teaching is not scriptural. Paul defines God's Spirit for us in his first letter to the Corinthians:

But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

I Corinthians 2:9

In the Bible, the heart corresponds to the mind as the place where thought and understanding take place. As many Scriptures show (cf. Gen. 6:5; Isa. 65:17; Jer. 3:16; 23:20; Mark 7:21), the heart and mind are synonymous. In fact, the Authorized Version even translates the Hebrew ruach (“spirit”) as “mind” in several places (Gen. 26:35; Pro. 29:11; Eze. 11:5; 20:32; Hab. 1:11). So in I Corinthians 2:9, Paul is saying that it hasn't entered into the mind “of man” (Gr. anthropou, lit. “of mankind”) what God has prepared for humanity.

But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

I Corinthians 2:10

Here Paul qualifies his earlier statement. There are some people who do know what God has prepared for mankind, because He has revealed it to the minds of those who have His Holy Spirit.

For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so [houtos kai] no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

I Corinthians 2:11

In verse 11, Paul draws an analogy between the spirit (i.e., “heart” or “mind”) of man and the Spirit of God. In his own peculiar style, Paul tells us that God's Holy Spirit is really His Mind. To demonstrate this, he draws a comparison between the human spirit and God's Spirit. He tells us that only the spirit (“mind”) within a man knows the thoughts of that man. Paul then goes on to say that only the Spirit (“Mind”) of God knows the thoughts of God. The connecting phrase “even so,” a translation of the Greek houtos kai, shows that Paul is comparing the human spirit or mind in the first part of this verse with God's Spirit or Mind in the final part. He explains this concept more fully in the next few verses.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

I Corinthians 2:12

How do we have the mind of God in us that was also in the Messiah? Through God's Holy Spirit.

For let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:5

God's Spirit, when it combines with our human spirit, allows us to understand the things of God from His perspective. When God gives us His Spirit, we can begin to comprehend what He is doing and why He is doing it.

Yeshua, through the power and understanding given by God's Holy Spirit, was able to overcome temptation while here on earth. Even though he was tempted in all things just as we are (Heb. 2:18; 4:15), he was able to overcome and triumph over his human nature and mind by the greater Mind of God.

Thus we have answered our earlier question about HOW the Father was in Christ. God was in Yeshua the same way He dwells in us: through His Holy Spirit.

Conversely, because of the presence of God's Spirit, Christ was able to remain in the Father by overcoming his own desires and being in total obedience to His will. Here are several Scriptures that show this truth:

“I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

John 5:30

“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”

John 6:38

“If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

John 15:10

Saying, “Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from me; yet not My will, but Yours be done.”

Luke 22:42

The Messiah subordinated his own will to that of the Father while he was here on the earth. That is how he remained in the Father.

This pattern shows us how Messiah's disciples could be “one” just as Yeshua and the Father were one. God would be in the disciples through the indwelling of His Holy Spirit. By the power of the Spirit the disciples would obey the commands of Christ (which are actually the commands of God the Father-John 14:24) and abide in God's love. As the Mediator between the heavenly Father and His human children (I Tim. 2:5), God's Holy Spirit flows through Christ our High Priest to reside in us (John 15:26; Acts 2:33).

So we can see from the teaching of the New Testament that Yeshua and the Father are said to be “one” because they were united in purpose and goal. God the Father commanded the Son, what he should do and what he should say. The Son obeyed perfectly, never sinning by breaking God's Law (II Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15; I Pet. 2:22; I John 3:5).

This understanding of oneness between the Father and Son is in perfect harmony with the Shema. The Father is the only true God, as the Son himself confessed (John 17:3). The Son is subordinate to the Father (Mark 13:32; John 10:29; 14:28; I Cor. 11:3; 15:27-28) and is one (echad) with Him, seeking always to accomplish the divine plan for mankind. The Hebrew word echad has as one of its prominent meanings “unity,” as the following verses clearly show:

And the LORD said, “Indeed the people are one [echad] and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them.

Genesis 11:6

Speaking of the descendants of Noah who were building the Tower of Babel after the Flood, YHVH said that they were “one.” Plainly echad here means that they were united in their desire to build the tower.

Then Joseph said to Pharaoh, “The dreams of Pharaoh are one [echad]; God has shown Pharaoh what He is about to do:

Genesis 41:25

Joseph told Pharaoh that the two dreams he had dreamed (seven fat cows eaten by seven skinny cows and seven plump heads of grain consumed by seven thin heads) were “one.” That is, they were unified because they both had the same meaning — the coming of seven years of good harvests and seven years of famine in Egypt.

So all the children of Israel came out, from Dan to Beersheba, as well as from the land of Gilead, and the congregation gathered together as one [echad] man before the LORD at Mizpah.

Judges 20:1

Here we see the gathering of all the tribes of Israel together “as one man before YHVH at Mizpah.” This Scripture speaks of a physical union of all the children of Israel in one place.

While there are numerous other examples from the Tanakh which show that echad can and frequently does mean “unity,” probably the most telling example given is that of the union of a man and woman as “one flesh” in marriage:

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. 23 And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman ['ishah], because she was taken out of Man ['ish].” 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh [vehayu lebasar echad].

Genesis 2:21

Marriage, where a man and woman become one flesh, is a picture of how God the Father and Yeshua are one. Understood correctly, it also explains how we as believers become one with God and Yeshua (John 17:11, 21-23).

The first thing we must understand is HOW a man and woman become one flesh at marriage. Clearly they do not merge into one literal body and cease to exist as separate biological organisms. So exactly what makes a man and woman “one flesh” in the biblical sense?

Paul gives us the answer to this question, as well as the answer to how we can become one as the Father and Yeshua are one, in his first letter to the Corinthian assembly:

Or do you not know that he who is JOINED [kollomenos] to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.”

I Corinthians 6:16

Paul's comment here shows that it is the physical act of sexual intercourse between a man and a woman that makes these two individuals “one flesh.” The example Paul gives is that of an illicit sexual copulation between a male member of the Corinthian congregation and a prostitute. However, by extension we can see that the same type of physical joining within the confines of marriage is what makes a husband and wife “one flesh” also.

Just as Paul condemns becoming “one flesh” with a harlot, the author of Hebrews speaks approvingly of sexual intercourse within the confines of marriage:

Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed [koite] undefiled [amiantos]; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

Hebrews 13:4

“Bed” comes from the Greek noun koite. This word, which is the origin of the English “coitus,” is used here as a euphemism for sexual intercourse. The Greek word translated “undefiled” (amiantos) literally means “pure.” The point of the author is that the joining as “one flesh” of a husband and wife through sexual intercourse is honorable and pure in God's sight. However, sexual activity outside of the divine institution of marriage is a sin and will be punished by God.

Paul's next comment in I Corinthians sheds light on how the physical act of sex by which a man and woman become “one flesh” pictures the spiritual oneness shared by those who have the Holy Spirit.

But he who is JOINED [kollomenos] to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

I Corinthians 6:17

In I Corinthians 6:16-17, Paul uses the exact same Greek verb (kollomenos) to describe the physical joining in sex with a harlot and the spiritual joining of God's spirit with that of a believer. The reason is because the physical is a picture of the spiritual. Just as a man and woman become “one flesh” when they unite in sexual intercourse, God and man become one when the Holy Spirit unites with our human spirit.

It was through this spiritual joining of spirits that Yeshua could rightfully say that he and God the Father were one. As He always does, God has given us a physical representation of a spiritual truth. We can become one with God just as He and Yeshua were one when we receive the gift of His Holy Spirit.

It is also why he calls the catholic church the whore (because she has fornicated with devils and the spirit of this world) and spawned daughters who are the denominations of today (called harlots) born of lust, greed, envy, lies and the love of this world and the things in it. They have taken on foul spirits as bedfellows and know not the Father nor the Son. They shall be judged.

I will pray that your eyes are opened. The best is yet to come!

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

Gentelmen,

2) Is God Jesus?

I could go into a very in depth study regarding your second question but I think the previous post should dispel any notion that Yahweh (God) is Yeshua (Jesus) if not I will be more than happy to post (as time permits) a more detailed study regarding that question.

There are many very deep things the Lord can show you. It is these first works that the whore and her harlot daughters would keep humanity bogged down in that they may keep the glory of Yahweh hidden and that they may all fall in the ditch (Lake of fire).

Apostle of Yahweh

[Apostle]

1) Is Jesus God? Answer: No

God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed [etheken] heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

Hebrews 1:1

This letter was primarily written to Messianic Jews to explain WHO Jesus Christ was, including his role in God's plan. The author of Hebrews (generally thought to be the apostle Paul) starts with the declaration that Yeshua was the Son of God. This Messianic identification for Yeshua is used throughout the New Testament, appearing 45 times (e.g., Matt. 8:29; 14:33; 26:63-64; 27:43; Mark 1:1; 3:11; Luke 1:35; 4:41; 22:70; John 1:34, 49; 3:18; 5:25; 9:35-37; 10:36; 11:4, 27; 19:7; 20:31; Acts 8:37; 9:20; Rom. 1:4; II Cor. 1:19; Heb. 4;14; I John 4:15; 5:5; Rev. 2:18). As the spokesman for God his Father, Yeshua was the successor to the Old Testament prophets.

The author also tells us in verse 2 that the Son was the one through whom God had created the world, and that the Father “appointed” him the heir of all things. The word translated “appointed” is a form of the Greek tithemi, which literally means “to place,” “to lay,” or “to set.” The language used here indicates that the Son's place was determined by the will of God, not by his nature.

Who being the brightness [apaugasma] of His glory and the express image [charakter] of His person [hupostaseos], and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

Hebrews 1:3

The author goes on in verse 3 to describe Yeshua as the “brightness” of God's glory. The Greek word translated “brightness” here (apaugasma) is probably better rendered as “reflection.” This Greek word is not found anywhere else in the New Testament or the Greek translation of the Old Testament (Septuagint).

However, it is found once in the Apocrypha, in the Wisdom of Solomon. In this book (thought to have been written between 100 B.C.E. and 40 C.E.), “wisdom” is similar to the logos concept found in the writings of Philo and the Gospel of John. Hebrews 1:3 is very reminiscent of the section from this apocryphal book where this word is found. This passage describes “wisdom” in terms much like those found in Hebrews 1:

For wisdom is more mobile than any motion; because of her pureness she pervades and penetrates all things. 25 For she is a breath of the power of God, and a pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty; therefore nothing defiled gains entrance into her. 26 For she is a reflection [apaugasma] of eternal light, a spotless mirror of the working of God, and an image of his goodness.

Wisdom 7:24

It's possible that the author of Hebrews was paraphrasing his statement in Hebrews 1:3 regarding the nature of Yeshua from this passage of intertestamental Jewish literature. The Messiah was the reflection of God's glory (“eternal light”) in the form of a human being.

This verse also states that Yeshua was the “express image” (charakter) of God's “person” (hupostaseos). According to Strong's Concordance, the Greek word charakter has the following meanings: “1) the instrument used for engraving or carving; 2) the mark stamped upon that instrument or wrought out on it, 2a) a mark or figure burned in (Lev. 13:28) or stamped on, an impression, 2b) the exact expression (the image) of any person or thing, marked likeness, precise reproduction in every respect, i.e facsimile.” Here the author's use of this word tells us that Yeshua was a “precise reproduction” or “likeness” of God's “person.”

According to Friberg's Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament (ALGNT), the Greek word hupostaseos (“person”) means: “. . . the objective aspect and underlying reality behind anything, w[ith] specif[ic] m[eani]ng derived fr[om] context; (1) as an undertaking plan, project (2C 9.4); (2) as God's substantial nature real being, essence (HE 1.3); (3) as the objective reality which gives a firm guarantee and basis for confidence or assurance substance, ground of hope, foundation (HE 3.14; 11.1).”

In simple terms, Hebrews 1:3 tells us that Yeshua reflected the glory of God because he was an exact reproduction of God's nature or essence. Clearly a differentiation between Yeshua and God the Father is depicted here, with Yeshua shown to be made in the image of the Father.

Having become [genomenos] so much better than the angels, as he has by inheritance obtained [kekleronomeken] a more excellent name than they.

Hebrews 1:4

The Greek verb genomenos (“having become”) indicates a change in status. Verse 4 makes it clear that Yeshua's obedient death on the cross caused an elevation of his position. This verse also tells us that Yeshua received a name greater than the angels through inheritance. Yeshua speaks of the name he received in the Gospel of John:

“While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.

John 17:12

This name Yeshua inherited was the very name of his Father, YHVH. It was by his Father's name that Yeshua was known to the ancient Israelites, as the story of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah shows:

Then the LORD [YHVH] rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD [YHVH] out of the heavens.

Genesis 19:24

The Targums, ancient Aramaic translations of the Hebrew Tanakh (also known as the “Old Testament”), contain a wealth of information concerning the way the Jewish interpreters of late antiquity understood the Scriptures. The rendering of this verse in the Jerusalem Targum incorporates additional commentary on the events that took place and more fully explains what happened:

And the Word of the Lord Himself had made to descend upon the people of Sedom and Amorah showers of favour, that they might work repentance from their wicked works. But when they saw the showers of favour, they said, So, our wicked works are not manifest before Him. He turned (then), and caused to descend upon them bitumen and fire from before the Lord from the heavens. (Jerusalem Targum, translated by J.W. Etheridge)

Genesis 19:24

The Jerusalem Targum clearly shows that the common Jewish understanding around the time of Christ was that the first YHVH mentioned in Genesis 19:24 was the “Word of the Lord” (the preincarnate Messiah-John 1:14), who was acting on behalf of his heavenly Father YHVH. For additional information on the activities of the Messiah before his human incarnation.

The author knew that many Jews would identify Yeshua with the Old Testament “Angel of the LORD,” the primary messenger of God's word in ancient times. In order to demonstrate the superiority of the Messiah, he begins in verse 4 to differentiate Yeshua from the other angels (“messengers”) that serve God the Father.

For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, today I have begotten you”? And again: “I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to Me a Son”?

Hebrews 1:5

In verse 5 we have the first two of several citations from the Tanakh within this passage: 1Psalm 2:7 and 2II Samuel 7:14. Psalm 2 is a messianic prophecy that details God's promise to His “Anointed” (Heb. Mashiach, “Messiah”) that He will establish him in Zion as king over the entire earth. II Samuel 7 records God's promise to King David. Specifically, II Samuel 7:16 states that King David's throne would be established forever.

With these two citations, the author lays out scriptural support for Yeshua's position and destiny. He is no mere angel, but instead he is the promised Messiah, the seed of David, the one who will reign in Jerusalem on David's throne during the millennial Kingdom of God.

But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship him.”

Hebrews 1:6

The author now cites a portion of Deuteronomy 32:43 from the Septuagint Greek version of the Tanakh (translated in the third century B.C.E.). He relates this Scripture to the return of Yeshua, the firstborn Son of God, into the world. In doing so, he builds on the theme of messianic rulership initiated in verse 5.

Rejoice, ye heavens, with him, and let all the angels of God worship him; rejoice ye Gentiles, with his people, and let all the sons of God strengthen themselves in him; for he will avenge the blood of his sons, and he will render vengeance, and recompense justice to his enemies, and will reward them that hate him; and the Lord shall purge the land of his people. (Brenton's LXX)

Deuteronomy 32:43

From the context of the quoted passage, we know that the author is referring to the second coming of Yeshua at the end of the age. Deuteronomy 32:43 is the last verse in a long passage of prophecy that Moses spoke to the Israelites just before his death. In this prophecy, Moses describes their fate and speaks of God's eventual judgment upon His enemies, those who have sought to destroy His chosen people. As many other Scriptures show, the one who will bring this punishment is none other than the Messiah returned to earth from heaven (cf. Rev. 19:11-21). This reference is intended to show the Messiah's position over the holy angels, who will serve as his army in the end-time destruction of God's enemies (Matt. 13:41-42).

And of the angels He says: “Who makes His angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire.”

Hebrews 1:7

The next quote comes from Psalm 104:4. This citation is the first part of a comparison (completed in verses 8-9) designed to establish the qualitative difference between the holy angels who serve God and His firstborn Son, Yeshua. The next two verses point out the greater responsibility and glory of the Son:

But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God [theos; Heb.'elohim], is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your Kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God [ho theos ho theos; Heb. 'elohim 'eloheykha], has anointed you with the oil of gladness more than your companions [metochous; Heb. chavereykha].”

Hebrews 1:8

There is a lot of meaning in these two verses, which are a citation from Psalm 45:6-7. The first thing we should notice is that the author applies the title “God” specifically to Yeshua (cf. John 20:28). A thorough understanding of the meaning of the Hebrew word 'elohim is necessary to grasp why he did this.

As Psalm 82 clearly shows, the term 'elohim can refer to the angelic sons of God (Psa. 82:6) who make up the heavenly divine council. Therefore, the author's use of this title is meant to describe the power and position of the firstborn Son. As he has already shown, the Son was no regular angel, no simple messenger. Instead, the Anointed was one of the exalted 'elohim, one of the divine council God had appointed to rule the nations of the earth. Specifically, God assigned the Messiah to rule over His portion, the nation of Israel (Deu. 32:9).

The next verse of the quotation confirms this identification. Whereas the Scriptures show that the other 'elohim have acted unjustly in the administration of their duties over the nations (Psa. 82:2-7), Psalm 45:7 tells us that the firstborn Son “loved righteousness and hated lawlessness.” Because he chose his heavenly Father's ways instead of his own, he was elevated far above his “companions,” the other members of the divine council. He will be given a throne above them all by God the Father, who is his God (cf. John 20:17; Rev. 1:6).

And: “You, Lord [kurie], in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. 11 They will perish, but you remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; 12 like a cloak you will fold them up, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will not fail.”

Hebrews 1:10

The next quotation is from Psalm 102:25-27, again from the Septuagint translation. Here the author expands upon the Messiah's role to show his part in the creation of the universe. When it's understood that Psalm 102:25-27 is speaking of the Messiah instead of the Father, we again see confirmation of Yeshua's central role as the instrument through which God created all things (cf. Pro. 8:30; John 1:3, 10; I Cor. 8:6; Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:2).

But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool”? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

Hebrews 1:13

The author of Hebrews finishes out his exaltation of the Messiah by quoting from Psalm 110:1. Unlike the angels that serve under him, Yeshua is shown to be seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven, waiting for the time when God will give him victory over his enemies (all those who resist God's will). As a final counterpoint to his argument, the author's rhetorical question in verse 14 again points out the superiority of Yeshua to the angelic host.

The first chapter of Hebrews is used by the author to demonstrate that the Messiah, who appeared as the Angel of the LORD before taking the form of a human, was much more than an Old Testament spiritual messenger from the Father. He was the workman through which God created all things. He was the promised seed of David, the Anointed one who would rule the earth from Jerusalem for a thousand years as God's representative. He was a member of the divine council who ruled over Israel, and because of his faithfulness, would rule over all nations.

Now let's skip down to Hebrews 2:9, where the author continues his explanation of the Messiah's identity:

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that he, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. 10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect [teleiosai] through sufferings.

Hebrews 2:9

Here the author begins to explain why the divine firstborn Son of God had to become a mortal man. In verse 9, he shows that Yeshua allowed himself to be made “a little lower than the (same) angels” the author had proclaimed him to be above in chapter 1. The purpose for this is not totally understood by most believers, even though it is clearly stated: Yeshua suffered death that he might “taste death for everyone.”

Verse 10 contains an amazing piece of information about the nature of the Messiah. We are told that the Father, in order to bring many sons to glory, had “to make the captain of their salvation (Yeshua) PERFECT through sufferings.” In the context of this passage, the Greek verb teleiosai would be better translated “complete.” In Luke 13:32, a form of this same word is used:

On that very day some Pharisees came, saying to him, “Get out and depart from here, for Herod wants to kill you.” 32 And he said to them, “Go, tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I shall be perfected [teleioumai].' ”

Luke 13:31

The primary suffering of the Messiah was his final agony on the cross. However, his total experience as a human being also qualified as suffering. It was the physical and mental distress, as well as the corresponding temptations that he endured, that “perfected” Yeshua.

As the divine spirit being called the “Angel of the LORD,” Yeshua led the Israelites out of Egypt during the Exodus and guided them through their 40 years of wilderness wanderings (Jdg. 2:1). During that time, he saw God's chosen people at their worst. In order to truly comprehend how people could behave the way that the Israelites did, he had to be subjected to the same temptations and sufferings that humans had to endure. Only this experience would allow him to be “completed” and become an empathetic High Priest to God's people (Heb. 2:17; 4:15).

For both he who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of one [ex henos pantes], for which reason he is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12 Saying: “I will declare Your name to my brethren; in the midst of the assembly I will sing praise to You.”8 13 And again: “I will put my trust in Him.”9 And again: “Here am I and the children whom God has given me.”10 14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, he himself likewise shared in the same, that through death he might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. (NKJV)

Hebrews 2:11

In verse 11, the author tells us that Yeshua and those he is in the process of sanctifying (“setting apart for a holy purpose”) are “all of one.” By the concluding statement that Yeshua “is not ashamed to call them BRETHREN,” we know that the first part of the verse is referring to Yeshua and those he is sanctifying being “all of one” FAMILY, with God being the Father of both (cf. Eph. 3:14-15).

Verse 12 begins another series of quotations from the Tanakh with a citation of 8Psalm 22:22. Psalm 22 is a messianic psalm that prophetically records some of the actual words later spoken by Yeshua (cf. Psa. 22:1).

The next two quotes come from the last part of 9Isaiah 8:17 and first part of 10Isaiah 8:18. This too is a messianic prophecy; immediately preceding this passage is the declaration that the Messiah would be “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense to both the houses of Israel” (Isa. 8:14; cf. Rom. 9:32-33; I Pet. 2:7-8).

For indeed he does not give aid to angels, but he does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17 Therefore, in all things he had to be made like his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself has suffered, being tempted, he is able to aid those who are tempted.

Hebrews 2:16

Continuing on, the author states in verse 16 that the Messiah became human in order to provide help to the descendants of Abraham. Verse 17 states that Yeshua's death was a means of providing forgiveness for the sins of the people, that they might be reconciled to God. This verse reiterates that Yeshua had to be made like his human brethren in order to be a merciful and faithful High Priest for God's people. In verse 18, we are told that Yeshua had to suffer and endure temptation as a man that he might (as our High Priest) be able to assist those who are suffering and being tempted.

Verse 18 is also a clear indication of the distinction between God the Father and Yeshua. Yeshua was tempted while in the flesh so that he might understand how temptation affects humans. However, we are clearly told that God the Father CANNOT be tempted:

Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.

James 1:13

Further on in the book of Hebrews, the author again stresses the fact that Yeshua was tempted by evil in the same way all mankind is, but that he was without sin:

Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Hebrews 4:14

Yeshua's status as the Son of God and his human temptation is confirmed numerous times in the Gospel accounts:

And He was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted by Satan, and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered to Him.

Mark 1:13

And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward he was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to him, he said, “If you are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

Matthew 4:2

Then the devil took him up into the holy city, set him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down. For it is written: 'He shall give His angels charge over you,' and, 'In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.' ” 7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the LORD your God.' ”

Matthew 4:5

Notice that the devil's entire focus of temptation consisted of attempting to goad Yeshua into proving he was “the Son of God.” Satan was very familiar with the Son in his role as the Angel of the LORD, as the Scriptures show (Zec. 3:1-10). The devil was, in effect, asking Yeshua to prove that he was the divine Son of God (Pro. 30:4) come down to earth in human form.

Going back to Hebrews 3, we see a statement in verse 2 that is absolutely astounding when properly understood. As you read the following statements about the Messiah, keep in mind that the context of this letter is an explanation of WHO the Messiah truly is:

Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly vocation consider the apostle and high priest of our confession, Jesus: 2 Who is faithful to Him that made [poiesanti] him, as was also Moses in all His house. 3 For this man was counted worthy of greater glory than Moses, by so much as he that hath built the house hath greater honour than the house. 4 For every house is built by some man: but He that created all things is God.

Hebrews 3:1

The Greek word translated “made” in verse 2 is poiesanti. This verb participle is a form of the Greek word poieo, which according to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words means “to do” or “to make.' It “is used in the latter sense (a) of constructing or producing anything, of the creative acts of God” (p. 386).

A Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD) states that this word is used “of God's creative activity” to mean “make, manufacture, produce τι someth[ing].” Regarding Hebrews 3:2, BAGD goes on to say that poiesanti is used “of the relation of Jesus to God” (p. 680).

Most English translations render poiesanti in Hebrews 3:2 as “appointed.” But the word literally means “made,” referring in this instance to the creative act of God in the origin of the Messiah. Let's look at Revelation 14:7 to see how poiesanti is used elsewhere in the Scriptures:

Saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made [poiesanti] heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”

Revelation 14:7

Based on the definition of this word, as well as its biblical usage elsewhere, it's obvious that poiesanti should be translated “who made” in Hebrews 3:2 (as it is in the 1899 Douay-Rheims American translation), not “who appointed” (as it is in most other English translations). Both Moses and Yeshua were faithful to God the Father, who “made” all things (v. 4).

Moses was faithful as a servant in all God's house, testifying to what would be said in the future. 6 But Christ is faithful as a son over God's house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast.

Hebrews 3:5

The author goes on in verses 4 and 5 to illustrate the pre-eminence of Messiah over Moses (which he first mentioned in v. 3). Moses served in God's house, but Yeshua the firstborn Son has been given rulership over God's house.

Now let's move on to the 5th chapter of Hebrews, where the author begins explaining the priesthood of Messiah:

For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. 2 He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness. 3 Because of this he is required as for the people, so also for himself, to offer sacrifices for sins. 4 And no man takes this honor to himself, but he who is called by God, just as Aaron was. 5 So also Christ did not glorify himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to him: “You are My Son, today I have begotten you.”

Hebrews 5:1

This passage stresses the Father's role in determining the duties assigned to the Messiah. Yeshua did not make himself the High Priest; rather, the Father designated him as such. In Hebrews 5:5 we have a repeat of the citation from 11Psalm 2:7 that the author used earlier (Heb. 1:5). Here the emphasis is on the sonship of the Messiah as the reason for his elevation to High Priest.

As He also says in another place: “You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek”; 7 who, in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save him from death, and was heard because of his godly fear, 8 though he was a Son, yet he learned [emathen] obedience by the things which he suffered. 9 And having been perfected [teleiotheis], he became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey him, 10 called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,”

Hebrews 5:6

Psalm 110:4, quoted twice in this passage (vv. 6, 10), serves as an introduction to the exalted position of the Messiah. Contrary to the commonly accepted teaching that Jesus was “fully man” and “fully God” while here on earth, the author tells us that during “the days of his flesh” (v. 7), it was ONLY through the Father that Yeshua obtained the ability to accomplish his mission. God was the one who provided Yeshua the strength to overcome this world, and He did so because of Yeshua's “godly fear” (which manifested itself as total obedience). The point is very clear — even though Yeshua was the Son of God, he learned obedience by the things he suffered as a human.

According to ALGNT, the Greek verb emathen, translated “learned” in verse 8, has “a basic m[eani]ng of directing one's mind to someth[ing] and producing an external effect learn; (1) as learning through instruction be taught, learn from someone (JN 7.15); (2) as learning through inquiry ascertain, discover, find out (AC 23.27); (3) as learning through practice or experience come to know, come to realize (PH 4.11; HE 5.8); (4) as achieving comprehension understand, learn (RV 14.3)”. If Yeshua had already been a perfect divine being before (and during) his incarnation, he could not have learned obedience as a result of the adversity he faced. “Having been perfected” as a direct result of his experiences as a human, we are told that Yeshua became the “author of eternal salvation to all who obey him” (v. 9) and now serves as our heavenly High Priest (v. 10).

Now let's examine one more related passage from the 7th chapter of Hebrews:

For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for his own sins and then for the people's, for this he did once for all when he offered up himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected [teteleiomenon] forever.

Hebrews 7:26

The 7th chapter of Hebrews uses the example of Melchizedek to show how Yeshua (from the tribe of Judah) could serve as High Priest when the Law specifies that the sons of Aaron (from the tribe of Levi) would hold that position. Once again, the author of Hebrews proclaims that we have a high priest in Yeshua who has been “perfected.” In the process of living a totally obedient life while enduring human temptation, Yeshua's understanding of mankind's plight was “completed.” By this experience, he qualified to be God's High Priest, just as Melchizedek had been in the days of Abram.

Now let's examine some other statements about the nature of the Messiah from the New Testament. We'll begin in Paul's letter to the Philippian congregation:

Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form [morphe] of God, did not regard equality with [isa] God a thing to be grasped [harpagmon], 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form [morphen] of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 For this reason also [dio kai], God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Philippians 2:5

When viewed in the proper context, this is an illuminating passage of Scripture. Paul tells us that before his incarnation, Yeshua existed in the same form (morphe) as God the Father. Yeshua himself said that God is spirit (John 4:24); therefore, Paul's statement indicates that Yeshua initially existed as a spirit being also. The two uses of the Greek root word morphe in this passage (vv. 6, 7) contrast God's existence as spirit and man's existence as flesh and blood.

Paul goes on to show that Yeshua was willing to give up his spiritual state of being. Many English translations render the Greek noun harpagmon (“to be grasped”) as “robbery.” However, BAGD states that this translation “. . . is next to impossible in Phil 2:6 . . .” (p. 108). According to ALGNT, harpagmon (found only once in the New Testament) probably means “. . . not forcefully retaining something for one's own advantage something not to be held onto . . .”

Yeshua did not consider being “equal to” (Gr. isa) God in form something that he should selfishly hold on to. Rather, he humbly emptied himself of divinity and became flesh and blood that he might fulfill the Father's will. Living an obedient life as a human here on the earth, Yeshua gave himself as our sacrifice on the cross, that our sins might be forgiven through him.

The Greek phrase dio kai that begins verse 9 is used to indicate a self-evident inference. Paul tells us that because of his humble, unselfish act, God the Father highly exalted Yeshua and bestowed on him a name above all names. Not because of his nature, but rather due to his obedience, God will cause “every knee to bow” to Yeshua and “every tongue will confess” that he is Lord.

Verses 10 and 11 are a paraphrase of Isaiah 45:23:

“Look to Me, and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. 23 I have sworn by Myself; the word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall take an oath.

Isaiah 45:22

Based on the statement in Isaiah 45:22 that “I am God, and there is no other,” some try to make the case that Yeshua and God are one and the same being (in either a “Trinitarian” or “Oneness” sense). This is a misinterpretation of the text, as a close examination of Paul's concluding statement in verse 11 plainly shows. By every knee bowing to Yeshua the Messiah and every tongue taking an oath that he is Lord, Paul tells us that God the Father will be glorified. There is only one true God, the Father (John 17:3), as Isaiah 45:22 states. However, every knee will in effect be bowing to Him when they bow to His Anointed One, Yeshua the Messiah.

Now let's examine another passage from Paul, this one from his initial letter to the Corinthian assembly. To make the passage easier to understand, I've replaced “him” and “his” with the one being spoken of:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then comes the end, when [Christ] delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when [God] puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For [Christ] must reign till [God] has put all enemies under [Christ's] feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

I Corinthians 15:22

This Scripture speaks of the delegation of God's authority to the Messiah as a means of achieving God's will. We see that the Messiah's rule will be completed when all God's enemies have been destroyed. After the destruction of the final enemy, death, Yeshua will return the reconciled kingdom to his Father, just as a craftsman hands over his finished product to the architect of the work.

For “[God] has put all things under [Christ's] feet.”13 But when He says “all things are put under [Christ],” it is evident that [God] who put all things under [Christ] is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to [God], then the Son himself will also be subject to [God] who put all things under [Christ], that God may be all in all.

I Corinthians 15:27

This passage specifically shows that, contrary to Trinitarian doctrine, Yeshua will always be subordinate to the Father (not co-equal). Verse 27 starts with a citation of Psalm 8:6. This is an interesting messianic psalm, and one that most don't fully grasp the significance of. Here is the pertinent section of this psalm:

When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars, which You have ordained, 4 what is man that You are mindful of him, and the son of man that You visit him? 5 For You have made him a little lower than the angels, and You have crowned him with glory and honor. 6 You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,

Psalm 8:3

In the Gospels, Yeshua is referred to as the “Son of Man” 83 times. The mention of the “son of man” in Psalm 8:4, combined with the use of this prophecy by Paul to specifically refer to Yeshua (as well as a similar usage in Hebrews 2), leaves little doubt that this passage is a messianic prophecy. The “son of man” spoken of in Psalm 8:4 is plainly the Messiah, who will have all things put under his feet by God the Father (I Cor. 15:25).

I Corinthians 15:27 also specifically states that God the Father has placed all things under Yeshua with the exception of Himself. Clear distinction is made here between the heavenly Father and His firstborn Son, Yeshua the Messiah. The Father has currently delegated all things to His Son, that Yeshua may reconcile them to Him (Col. 1:20). However, when the reconciliation is finally accomplished, we see that the entire creation, including the Son, will be subject to God (v. 28).

This passage isn't the only place where Paul shows the superior position of the Father in relation to the Son. Earlier in I Corinthians 11, Paul documented the line of authority from mankind to God:

But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

I Corinthians 11:3

Once again we see that God the Father is over Yeshua in authority. Contrary to the doctrine of the Trinity, they are not co-equal.

Additionally, the Scriptures show that only God the Father is omniscient (“all-knowing”):

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is.”

Mark 13:32

This declaration shows that the Messiah himself acknowledged only the Father knew the timing of his second coming. Yeshua's statement confirms the passages we reviewed from Hebrews earlier which show that Yeshua was “completed” by his human experience. This verification also supports several passages from the Tanakh which show that the preincarnate Messiah did not know all things (Gen. 18:21; 22:12).

In the final book of the Bible, Yeshua uses a title for himself that is very enlightening, when placed in the proper context:

“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

Revelation 22:16

Here we see that Yeshua tells us he is the “Morning Star.” Peter confirms this identification of Messiah in his second epistle:

For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” 18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with him on the holy mountain. 19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts;

II Peter 1:17

This title is not just a poetic description of the Messiah. It identifies his status, as a passage from Job 38 shows:

“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. 5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Job 38:4

In this Scripture, “morning stars” are parallel to and synonymous with the angelic “sons of God” (Gen. 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; 2:1). By his use of the title “Morning Star,” Yeshua establishes that he was one of those sons of God present at the creation of the world. As other Scriptures show, he was the firstborn Son of God through whom the Eternal Father created the world.

Conclusion

When viewed with an open mind, the available historical and scriptural evidence strongly suggests that early believers had a much different understanding of the origin and nature of Yeshua than we do today. In contrast to modern Judaism, first-century Jews who accepted Yeshua as the prophesied Messiah had no trouble assigning to him the status of a second divine spirit being who was subordinate to the Most High God. He was understood to be the “Angel of the LORD” who had led Israel out of Egypt. In contrast to modern Christianity, early believers understood that the Messiah was the “firstborn of every creature” (Col. 1:15), the “only begotten” Son of God. He was the wisdom of God (I Cor. 1:24), begotten before all things to be the workman who helped the Father create the world (Pro. 8:22-31). He was the divine Word (Logos), who was with God the Father in the beginning and was also 'elohim (“God”-John 1:1).

This should lay to rest any question you may have concerning the identity of the Messiah as well as lay to rest the false satanic doctrine of the trinity spewed forth across the face of the earth by the whore and her harlot daughters.

Although I am certain this will satisfy you “analytical mind” I can also say without any doubt (as I said before) that unless you are meant to see you will not see.

For future discussion I would pose a question to you that the whore nor her harlot daughters can answer.

Why was the payment for sin blood? It could have been anything. Yahweh is sovereign. He could have made it anything or nothing at all. Why did he insist that the price for the redemption of man be blood? Put that to the false prophets and watch them squirm. 😉

Apostle of Yahweh.

[Apostle]

Sonik,

First I would apologize for not getting back sooner. I can indeed answer your questions. I will keep them as simple as I can adding only a couple of scriptures for each answer and then you can search out the rest. Before I begin I need to tell you something of the utmost importance and I can only pray that you will take heed.

About six years ago I too had the same questions as you. Even though I had grown up in the church there were nagging questions that I could not get answered by the church or anyone in them. The answer always seemed to boil down to “I don't know” or “we just have to take some things on faith” because most of the time the answers didn't make sense. After trying many different denominations and churches my answers just didn't come. Then about a year before 911 happened I was sitting at my computer and I was praying and telling Father that I would do anything to have my questions answered. Even if it meant walking out the front door of my house with nothing more than the clothing on my back to follow him. I meant it. I still do.

Then it happened. While I was praying I began to have a vision. What I saw changed my life forever. I saw the statue of liberty standing alone. Behind her I saw pillars of smoke as large as whole cities. Children were crying in the streets and millions of people had died. I could feel the level of despair and hopelessness in the country and knew that we had been invaded and were occupied by a foreign army. As I was having this vision I heard a voice that said because of the wickedness of this country the hand of our enemies had been turned against us and the Eternal Father was giving me orders to “prepare” for a later date because he had a special work for me waging war against the whore and against the beast. As a sign of what he had shown me I was told to go to the local K-mart and get an atlas and go to the page of washington D.C. which I did. When I returned to the house I opened the atlas to that page and began to trace shapes and images on the page as I was directed by the one and only creator of all things. I was stunned. I can only tell you that my life has changed and will never be the same. And it is since that time that Father through his Spirit has been showing me the truth and the things to come. Now for the urgent part.

Since that time almost six years ago I have been telling people that the United States and the Nation today known as Isreal ( who are not Israel but Esau) will attack Iran and very shortly thereafter the United States economy will crash and then China and Russia will attack and invade the United States. For about a year now I have been telling people where I work the exact timetable for the things that are happening and there are many believers. Now I am telling you.

The United States and the nation of Esau (called Israel) will attack Iran around the end of March. Within six months the United States economy will crash. China will sell off all the debt of the United States which will cause a run on the dollar and hyper inflation much as Russia saw a few years ago. The only difference between us and them is nobody invaded them. We will not be so lucky. Russia, China, North Korea and Cuba will gather together and invade the United States.

That time has come. I have been preparing for six years now and only by the grace of my Father will the preparations be completed. As to what I have told you I wrote down the exact things that Father showed me and the things he said to me. The drawings on the map of Washington D.C. I have scanned into my computer and can send to you. My request to you and to anyone else who reads this is to please for your own sakes start putting back food and the things you will need to survive after the economy has crashed. It will be a terrible time and will be directed by the hand of God because of the pride and wickedness of this country.

For about a year both my wife and myself were having visions of things to come. Things like where we would be in the future. (We are here now) and what we would be doing when the time came. As soon as we arrived at the place where Father showed my wife where we would be when the time came to fulfill the things we had seen, the visions stopped but the revelations of the things in his word has continued for almost six years. As to your questions I can answer them but I must take them one at a time because Satan has so twisted what the truth is that you must seek after God to find him. He will show himself to you no other way.

Regarding some of the things you guys have posted there are many false things that spring from the mouth of the whore and her harlot daughters the denominations. Things that most take for the truth but are nothing but lies. Israel is a people (Jacob). Esau is a people (Esau, Edom, Israel the nation today). Ishmael is a people (the Arab nations). Father made these people promises throughout his word that are being fulfilled today. The word of God (the Bible has no mistakes in it) it is the blindness of the people and the lies of the whore who make it appear there are contridictions but when you see the truth you begin to see that the word goes even deeper than we can understand or comprehend. It loudly proclaims the Glory of God.

I will begin answering your question over the next few days. I cannot give you an exact timetable because time grows short and I always, everyday, put all of my energy into doing what Father has shown me to do. Everything else is second.

Please be patient and listen with your heart. Ask Father to show you if you really want to see. I will telll you the things he has shown me but understand this. You will not see unless he want you to see. I can talk until I'm blue in face and you still will not see. that the prophesy of Isaiah would be fulfilled in that having eyes they could not see nor having ears they could not hear.

I will pray for you. But for today I am out of time.

Apostle of Yahweh