Paul Leinthall is an example of someone who markets the Nonresident Alien Position
(as we call it in our Great IRS Hoax Book) advocated by:
We also endorse the nonresident alien approach in our book,
The
Great IRS Hoax.
We
provide copies of all of the marketing materials used and sample
answers provided by Mr. Leinthall as a way to enlighten you on the
Nonresident Alien approach. We believe this information may prove
very educational
for our readers. We aren't either advocating or condemning Mr.
Leinthall's approach here by any means. We don't use his services or
benefit in any way by including his information here. We include Mr. Leinthall's
materials and approach here simply
and only as an educational vehicle to
learn about some of the different approaches various tax freedom groups
are taking.
We have excluded the Application form, because you can
get that from Mr. Leinthall yourself and we don't want to be accused of
marketing anything.
We have no experience using Mr. Leinthall's methods or
services but most of what we have read from this man so far has been
consistent with the methods advocated in The
Great IRS Hoax. The only exception we have found is his stance
towards taxability of wages for those who work for the U.S.
government. He says (in his "Do You Know Your Proper IRS
Status?" document) that those types of individuals can't escape
paying taxes and he can't help them. Our approach integrates the 861
Position for such occasions so that even that type of U.S.** source income
is not taxable whereas with his approach it would be.
Mr. Leinthall's service is the only service we know of
that uses the nonresident alien position. Everyone else pushing the
nonresident alien position sells information but not services. We have queried him and his associates on repeated
occasions for more information about their services, and in particular a
detailed process document showing everything they provide, when it is
provided, sample forms, and so on. We have not gotten what we asked
for. The only reason we have not used their services is
because:
- The cost of the service, which is $2500 for an
individual and $3,100 for a couple.
- There are aspects of the service that is provided
that are undocumented. THE COMPANY provides copies
of ALL of the items they send to the IRS to you as part of the
service. 10% of the company services, however, are undocumented
according to Mr. Leinthall , so that you can't know everything
you are paying for. I suppose this is done to ensure that people
are loyal to the company and don't leave THE COMPANY to try to do
things on their own after some OJT and watching what they do and how
they do it. This makes their business process proprietary and
unmarketable. How can you sell what you don't understand and
market what you can't completely explain? That is the
"cognitive dissonance" and logical contradiction I have been
immobilized with ever since I learned about Mr. Leinthall's service.
- Because you don't know everything you
are paying for, you have to trust THE COMPANY to keep
you out of trouble and none of the people affiliated with the company
are ever identified, including the founder of the mysterious COMPANY. But
you also have to depend on a mysterious group of people you've never
met and can't know to be doing what they are supposed to do, and
that's very scary for most people to do because interfacing with the
IRS is so administratively intensive and the COMPANY does everything
for you. If ignorantly and naively trusting the
IRS was what got people in trouble and made them financial slaves to
the government to begin with, then why would we want to fall into that
trap by trusting an anonymous COMPANY?
- The obscurity and anonymity surrounding people
working for THE COMPANY and their processes and services is something
that we have serious questions about. If THE COMPANY were more
up-front, clearly documented all the services it provides for the
$2,500, and all the people working at THE COMPANY were completely identified, I'd
feel a lot more comfortable about trusting them with $2,500 of my
hard-earned money. Mind you, however, that I have had no reason
to believe they can't provide what they say they can provide.
And if their services are legitimate, why wouldn't they want to be
identified and be held liable for poor performance if their techniques
don't work as advertised 100% of the time (for 1,500 people) as they
say in their marketing materials?
- Discussions with Mr. Leinthall to date on this one "TRUST US, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING BUT CAN'T TELL YOU
AND WON'T IDENTIFY OURSELVES" subject have been fruitless, but
otherwise, we really like what they have to offer and I have learned
quite a bit by reading about their products and services.
Should you decide to sign up for Mr. Leinthall's
services, we would very much appreciate getting feedback on the success of
his methods and anything new techniques you learn for dealing with the IRS
that do not appear in The Great IRS Hoax book but which are effective and
useful. We'd like to inform our readers with statistical evidence on
the success of the various methods described on our website.
Filename |
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Initial Sales Pitch: |
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1 Initial
email
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2 Exempt
is better than Exemptions
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32 |
3 Newsletter
documenting company processes
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4 Do
You Know Your Proper IRS Status?
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289 |
My
Response to the sales pitch
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Paul's Response to My Response
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His Newsletter of May 15, 2001 Mentioning Our
Correspondence
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Newsletter
July 31, 2001
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36 |
Newsletter
Aug. 7, 2001
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58 |
Newsletter
Aug. 14, 2001
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37 |
Newsletter
Aug. 21, 2001
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46 |
Newsletter
Aug. 28, 2001
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42 |
Newsletter
Sept. 4, 2001
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42 |
Newsletter
Sept. 18, 2001
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35 |
Newsletter
Sept. 25, 2001
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45 |
Newsletter
Oct. 2, 2001
The Science of Getting Rich
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39
381 |
Newsletter
Oct. 9, 2001
BACK OFF
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17
19 |
Newsletter
Oct. 30, 2001
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39 |
Newsletter
Nov. 6, 2001
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43 |
Newsletter
Nov. 13, 2001
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41 |
Newsletter
Nov. 20, 2001
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46 |
Newsletter
Nov. 27, 2001
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40 |
Newsletter
Dec. 11, 2001
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70 |
Newsletter
Dec. 18, 2001
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53 |
Newsletter
Jan. 15, 2002
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51 |
Newsletter
Jan. 22, 2002
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58 |
Newsletter
Jan. 29, 2002
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43 |
Newsletter
Feb. 5, 2002
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59 |
Newsletter
Feb. 19, 2002
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23 |
Newsletter
Feb. 26, 2002
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35 |
Newsletter
Mar. 5, 2002
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43 |
Newsletter
Mar. 12, 2002
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38 |
Newsletter
Mar. 19, 2002
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41 |
Newsletter
Apr. 2, 2002
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43 |
Newsletter
Apr. 9, 2002
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37 |
Newsletter
Apr. 16, 2002
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49 |
Newsletter
Apr. 23, 2002
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49 |
Newsletter
May. 7, 2002
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29 |
Newsletter
May 14, 2002
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34 |
Newsletter
May 21, 2002
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48 |
Newsletter
Jun. 4, 2002
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51 |
Newsletter
Jun. 11, 2002
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27 |
Newsletter
Jun. 18, 2002
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37 |
Newsletter
Jun. 25, 2002
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28 |
Newsletter
Jul. 9, 2002
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43 |
Newsletter
Jul. 16, 2002
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47 |
Mr. Leinthall passed away after the
last newsletter above. So far as we are aware, no forwarding
address or contact information was provided to clients to allow
service to continue. This is typical of secretive operations
and the very reason why we do not advocate secretive operations.
Technically their operation is good, but when all of your service
depends on one "hero" individual who is the only person
who knows anything, and this person dies or moves on, a lot of
orphaned customers are left behind who frequently hurt. Don't
say we didn't warn you above.
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