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Hum…
Thanks Neo. I think you might be on to something. I agree they would have a case against calling it an addition. Trying to prove you are a foreign government might prove to be more hassle than the benefit of the endorsement might provide. Running under the radar is probably the best approach. Anyone want to buy a stamp?
Ok, How’s this for the endorsement stamp.
THE BEARER POSSESSES THE FOLLOWING CITIZENSHIP
STATUSES UNDER FEDERAL LAW:
POLITICAL STATUS – NATIONAL 8 USC 1101(a)(21)
CIVIL STATUS – NON-CITIZEN NATIONAL 8 USC 1452
– ALIEN 8 USC 1101(a)(3)DOMICILE – NONE
LEGAL ALIEN ALLOWED TO WORK
I’m thinking that would allow versatility, if one should move outside the country. Thanks NEO for bringing up this idea. Has anyone seen an actual endorsement that the DOS have stamped? I am wondering which way the printing would go. Would it be landscaped or portrait in orientation? If landscaped would it start on the edge of the page and end toward the stapled side of the page or face out with the main text starting at the spine going toward the edge of the page? I don’t have one in hand, so I am going by memory. Perhaps these endorsements are so few in existence that whoever sees it may not know of an established format for DOS. Any comments would be appreciated (though not expected). 😀
- I have informed the DOS that I was going to put the political status and civil status endorsements in my passport if they did not respond within 30 days. They have not responded, thus they acquiesce and agree.
However, I have noticed the following language in the passport itself:
ALTERATION OR MUTILATION OF PASSPORT This passport must not be altered or mutilated in any way. Alteration could make the passport invalid, and if willful, may subject you to prosecution (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1543). Only authorized officials of the United States or of foreign countries may place stamps or make notations or additions in this passport. You may amend or update personal information for your own convenience on the adjoining PERSONAL DATA AND EMERGENCY CONTACT page.
In view of this language, it would seem that it could be problematic to place a declaration in the back. Thoughts?
The declaration I proposed to the DOS was as follows:
THE BEARER POSSESSES THE FOLLOWING CITIZENSHIP
STATUSES UNDER FEDERAL LAW:DOMICILE – UNION STATE, U.S.A.
POLITICAL STATUS – NATIONAL 8 USC 1101(a)(21)
CIVIL STATUS – NON-CITIZEN NATIONAL 8 USC 1452
– ALIEN 8 USC 1101(a)(3)Ok, I really like the idea of stamping my own endorsement as per the above discussion and it appears to me the best way to do such a thing so it looks legit would be to have a rubber stamp made. My only question is the part about DOMICILE – isn’t the whole idea to describe no Earthly domicile or nothing within man made Governments? Granted in regard to Federal law a Union State is foreign so it would be out of their reach. If one were to move outside the country having the stamp state a Union State domicile would then not be accurate. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Perhaps the best course would be to leave the domicile part off……
I got my ID notarized with an existing “slave” passport, and the only thing the notary did was look at the picture to see if it looked like me. She did not write down any identifying numbers from it, so basically they just want to see some sort of picture id. Technically they are supposed to pull out a Notary book and start to document their notary action by filling out all sorts of information. I had one even go so far as to want a fingerprint on the line with all the information he collected. So, it depends on who you get to notarize your stuff. If you go in and they just get out their stamp and don’t reach for their book, then you are golden. Usually if you catch some entry level type in a hurry, they will just accept supporting documents without any details off of them. You could always bring some “B.S” thing for them to notarize as a test. If they don’t record anything in their book, then you could pull out the ID stuff you want notarized. If it looks like they are reaching for their book, you could always say…”Uh Oh, I forgot another document that has to be notarized with this at the same time… I will need to come back.” And then just go to another bank and try again. They don’t care. It is just a slight inconvenience to notarize stuff, and they don’t care what they are notarizing. The only thing they are doing is verifying you and your signature was written in front of them. I have never had anyone question what they were notarizing.
Good Luck!
