Bing has mentioned:

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and you can read an admission where a US Congressman admitted in YEAR 1919, that it was impossible to know what the statutory laws of the USA really are.

Imagine that!!!

Well, the way I understand it, the laws were not organized in the various codes at that time. After the various 50 titles (or less)… Read more

Bing,
We are only discussing what 10 lines contained in Section 4 establish.

You have asked for time to analyze. Is there any response ??
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A few more thoughts on the Statutes at Large.

I agree with Bing. I know of no other time an entire Title has been published as a separate volume of the SAL except for the two volumes related to Title 26. It is known that the 1954 volume involved a complete reorganization of the structure that could not have been communicated by a… Read more

Bing has written:

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If I read you right, you are saying that from 1939 until 1954, the 1939 IRC was in force. Is that correct?

yes

What has been identified as Section 4 of SEDM exhibit 1023, REPEAL AND SAVINGS PROVISIONS, (The two pages were attached as a headnote to the new 1939 code) repealed all revenue laws that were operative as… Read more

Franklin has commented on the Vroman court's reliance upon the Hamlin Opinion:

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Thanks too for the lead about the Hamlin case and how they use that for authority that a statute can be vague.

The essence of the legal profession is to be very precise. Using the wrong word can end up with bad results.

The Vroman court relied upon… Read more

Bing has stated:

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Are you suggesting that the Internal Revenue Code of 1939 WAS NOT REPEALED?
If so, I respectfully dissent.

In an attempt to restate my previous post, what is posted as SEDM 1023 is the equilivant of a two page transmittal letter inserted as a headnote to the 1939 code. That Act (H.R.2762) repeals all of the… Read more

Bing has asked the question:

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If the US Statutes at Large is THE LAW in the USA, and it supersedes the unenacted USC titles, and if the Citizens, are, as the US Supreme Court has asserted, responsible for knowing the Law, then how come the US Government has STILL failed to scan in the US SAL Volumes and put them on the internet and… Read more

Confusion appears apparent about 53 Stat 4 and exhibit 1023 at SEDM.

The way I understand it from the law library is the 1939 tax code was legislated to be a self-standing volume of the statutes at Large. That volume has been designated as 53 Stat Part 1. Other laws passed by Congress in 1939 were printed in 53 Stat Part 2.

[The 1954 code… Read more

Bing,

Quite by coincidence, my mailbox contained a bulk mailing informing me the Statutes at Large are posted at :

> Vols. 41 thru 121 of the U.S. Statutes at Large are all now posted here:
> http://whatistaxed.com/statutes_at_large.htm

53 Stat (Act) 4 appears to be about the street lighting of D.C. (in the index) but I do not find… Read more

The information reports sent to the IRS by third parties you identify are quite different from any type of report that might have been a part of an Information served on a defendant to initiate a criminal action that I had erroneously assumed. It would appear they might be admissable as evidence only if the prosecution can obtain an… Read more

Bing,

Your latest post is a bit perplexing. Any follow-up on challenging an indictment is absent, nor is there any continuation on the concept of evidence at trial, or the use of a non-resident alien status.

We both know the IRC is not positive law. The code changes so frequently and the IRS completely rewrites the entire code (as in 1954)… Read more

Bing,

I certainly respect your option to question the positions taken. It is only by discussion of various viewpoints that we can reach a better understanding of the situation than can either individual on his own.

The post was a summary of 36 pages of legalese.

You mention the use of regulations. The entire objective of the writing is… Read more

The Motion to arrest judgment was written for SPJ after several email exchanges with her. It appears her lawyer, who she dismissed prematurely, talked her out of filing it.

The lengthy pdf file posted by Admin was filed by a pro se in florida in 1996. It lacks a lot of clarity and more recent research such as the Sansone case. It is assumed… Read more

The way I hear it, the BS executives gave themselves bonus worth millions in January.

If BS had gone into bankruptcy, the bonuses would have had to be returned.

We all know, the chairman just cashed out his $61 million of shares. The employees' pension plan was dissolved.

The Fed is working to support the financial institutes as its… Read more

I am sure you are aware that less than 5% of the Petitions for Cert. are granted ??
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I am in agreement that the Constitution has full force and effect within non-state land. Believing otherwise is proof of a deficiency in constitutional theory.

Author – Your reliance on Carter is unpersuasive, because you seem to overlook the concept of cooperative federalism. Each state, as I trust you know, is its own separate… Read more

Rattler,
I might also mention there are several links to articles involving the CIA snooping on computer usage.

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Rattler,
If the CIA is of interest (as distinguished from the IRS), there is a comprehensive list of books, websites, and press releases on numerous improper CIA actions that have been alleged over the past 55 years at :

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2007/tle427-20070722-03.html
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blo…07/08/21/p18996 and… Read more

May the Great Spirit bless the troops that are compelled to go.

DAMN the politicians that lie to send them.

For the mathematical calculation on how the system is a Ponzi scheme, use INHERENT NATIONAL BANKRUPTCY in a search engine. It was written two years ago.

You cannot pay back the principle and the interest on an economic system that creates only the principle as an item of interest bearing debt.

The problem with the lambskin post of— 10:48 AM– is that somebody might think it has some sort of rational thought behind it.

The writer of it has relied in prior forum posts on the Teamlaw website as supporting his viewpoints–I conclude it is his alter ego. I have had exposure to that website by correspondence to my personal email with… Read more

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You must mean Puerto Rico?

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You are quite correct. Ref. Davila-Perez v Lockheed, 202 F3rd 464 (2000); US v Cardales, 168 F3rd 548 (1999). Hopefully Costa Rica will forgive the sully on their sovereignty.

It is so neat to surf through these forums and read the misunderstandings that can be achieved with just one word.

There are two distinct concepts that have been discussed:

1. A right to travel.

2. An alleged right to drive.

If you go back to the newstand article, the headline used the “drive” word. All references in the body of the… Read more

Lamby,
If you find TEAMLAW as some sort of credible source of information, it goes a long way to understanding your position regarding a “corporate” constitution of the United States.

Mental illness can be contagious.

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The IRS wants to make it an easy case. Would you be surprised to hear Sipes has been talked into a deal to roll on Kahn ??
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The entire HC motion has been posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tips_and_tricks/message/13755

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With all due respect for the SEDM ebook you mentioned which I have not read, I believe your position that the U.S. district courts are operating as territorial courts is erroneous. Territorial courts occurred in Kansas, Oklahoma, etc., before they became states.

A recent citation going around the tax movement declared the district court was… Read more

Hey, Number 5 !!!

Could I get your opinion on http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=937 ??? It is an attack on an income tax indictment. Unfortunately, the best part was dropped as being too long.

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Allow me to expand on “Should I understand…”

All indictments on behalf of the IRS rely upon 26 USC #7201 through #7215 as identifing an income tax charge. Challenges in court that the provisions are punishment provisions and do not identify an income tax liability have been unsuccessful.

To lift a paragraph from the other famguardian… Read more

I wish I could be enthusistic about Tommy's MTD. I cannot.

He challenges the validity of the income tax law. We all agree with him. The income tax liability is not found within the statutes. But he attempts to evidence it is invalid. The court will shift the burden of proof to the defendant—to prove there is NO possible way the income… Read more

Bing,
You have stated:

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But in my view, Lane's biggest mistake is that so far as I know, he never filed a Motion under Rule 201, of the Federal Rules of Evidence, requesting the lower D.C. Court to Judicially Notice Specific Facts.

Parties to a lawsuit are allowed to request the Court to Judicially Notice Certain facts, and when… Read more

It appears the last ten pages regarding the status of indictments that do not identify a crime were beyond the length limit. Do you wish them to be posted ???

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I believe Sonik has detected the method of how the fraudulent scheme was installed:

Sonik Speed wrote on Oct 21 2006, 07:25 PM:

>Theoretically speaking, the “x+1” can probably be paid by some other non-note >circulating collateral, because it has to come from somewhere.

When the system was installed in 1913, the FRN was in circulation… Read more

Bing,
Remind me to never irritate you.
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Sonik Speed has observed Title 1, Section 1 includes the following defination:

” the words ''insane'' and ''insane person'' and ''lunatic'' shall include every idiot, lunatic, insane person, and person non compos mentis.”

How many of those terms would apply to congresscritters ?? … Read more

Bobt12 has observed our constitution includes:

.”…No State shall…coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Depts”

It appears to be a real shame our forefathers did not mandate “No state shall accept anything but gold or silver coin as payment for taxes.” It would have put the states… Read more

Sonik Speed has written:

“The Federal Reserve System is COMPLETELY a legal forum of quasi-organization. It was LEGALLY created by a corrupted, super-rich, power-hungry Congressmen in the early part of the 20th Century. Congress indeed has the power to CREATE private or non-private organizations giving them authority over anything that is… Read more