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  • neo

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    August 25, 2013 at 7:38 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    Well . . . I agree with all of that.

     

    I’m simply talking about how to STATUTORILY change your status . . . NOTHING MORE.

     

    Whether or not you are on or off duty is irrelevant. 

     

    I AM TALKING ABOUT CHANGING STATUS STATUTORILY.

     

    I AM TALKING ABOUT CHANGING STATUS STATUTORILY.

     

    I AM TALKING ABOUT CHANGING STATUS STATUTORILY.

     

    WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?

     

    YES . . . CHANGING STATUS STATUTORILY.

  • neo

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    August 25, 2013 at 7:22 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    Where is this method spelled out in THEIR, THEIR , THEIR (obviously I was not clear earlier) statutes?

    What is being proposed just above this post appears evasive and could be construed as fraudulent activity by the government. Again….I’m not interested in fighting that fight.

  • neo

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    August 25, 2013 at 7:01 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    My point and my ONLY point is this:

    If you have EVER established yourself as a “U.S. person” by filing a Form 1040….then there is ONLY one way under THEIR, THEIR, THEIR (I hope I’m being clear) statutes to effectuate the change.

    As for me and my house….this is the avenue I am pursuing. I’m interested in hearing about any other avenues for success that others have enjoyed.

    Admin….just 24 hrs ago we were in agreement in a private exchange….but your position seems to have changed. I understand…..this ministry has a lot of time and material committed to ITS APPROACH.

    What will a 26 year retired veteran of the beast do when retirement plunder comes in and the beast wants its tithe? Will said veteran disregard the taxability of these United States sourced payments? In my opinion….said veteran should pay his taxes. But what said nonresident alien does in his wholly private capacity may afford a tax free treatment.

  • neo

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    August 25, 2013 at 3:44 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    Admin, your ASSumptions for my reasons for approaching this as I am is 100% wrong.  Since I know you don’t read my mind and know my heart, you can ONLY ASSume what you have posted above.

     

    I know of almost NOBODY who is willing to terminate their participation in SS.  Maybe there are a handful of people nationwide who would do this.  I submit it won’t work anyway, because it’s their system and they won’t acknowledge that you are out.

     

    My approach gives people an avenue which MAY possibly “right some wrongs” and make the Beast actually recognize them for who they are.

     

    I believe (yes, I have the freedom to believe as I wish), that the “Path To Freedom” as published elsewhere will result in somebody being “locked out of society” down the road.  But this is just my opinon.

     

    I believe that government retirement benefits are taxable.  I’m sorry . . . I just believe that and I will pay taxes on Federal money.  I also believe that folks who voluntarily comply in the private sector also owe as prescribed by Congress and the Secretary of the Treasury.  Others here can do as they wish and believe.  Again, I’m not interested in conflicts with the government that I believe I am on the losing side of.

     

    This site and its sister site propound to be in support of the law and the rule of law and following the law, but then I find myself being denigrated for following it.  Hmmmmmmm . . . something seems wrong here.  Is it wrong for a Federal worker to follow the law and also fight for the Constitution?  I don’t think so.  To be fired from my job or be branded a “nut job” do not serve me, my family, or my goals for bringing forth the truth and helping others.  I would rather be a credible source of information and an example of how to do it while following the law.

     

    It’s not about receiving plunder — it’s about getting out of the trap.  They know that “patriots” will adopt the stance you have, and will not comply with their prescribed method for opting out.  This weakness in your human nature has been built into the system to keep you enslaved.  It appears to be working, as their system has captured everyone, and nobody is getting out.  There are only those who THINK they are out.

  • neo

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    August 25, 2013 at 2:52 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    Well, that is 100% correct.  The SSN and the franchise to which it belongs is exclusively in the domain of taxpayers.  It’s their program they devised to bring people into the taxpayer system.

     

    But here’s why the proper status is important:

     

    26 CFR 301.6109-1(g)(1)(i) allows a taxpayer to change status from “U.S. person” to “nonresident alien.”  Notice, you can only change status in THEIR system as a taxpayer.  THERE IS NO OTHER WAY . . . NO MATTER HOW MUCH ONE PROTESTS.  It’s their system and they make the rules.  If you EVER entered THEIR system under THEIR rules, you had darn well better be willing to accept the fact that if you want to change your status, it has to also be done under THEIR rules.

     

    OK.

     

    Now, the SSA admits that a CSP Code is shared with the IRS for tax return processing and enforcement.  So, if you want to change your tax status from “U.S. person” to “nonresident alien,” it has to be done by filing a 1040NR in conjunction with perhaps a W-2, 1099-R, and a 1042S.

     

    BUT . . .

     

    If the SSA is telling the IRS that the “taxpayer” has  CSP Code of A, the IRS MAY reject your “nonresident alien” filing because clearly a CSP Code of A more appropriately belongs to a person with a “U.S. person” tax status.  Now, I fully understand what you have voiced in the past, and that is, that the IRS is going to accept payment under any status as long as you pay.  And you are probably correct.  But the concern for me arises over what MAY happen to you down the road as these government information systems become more tied to databases in the financial and other sectors such as healthcare.  Furthermore, if one does not ensure that all government systems are ACCURATELY reflective of your proper status, you are opening yourself up to government evidence that would absolutely DESTROY YOU in any legal proceeding.  This is not about what will or might work . . . this is about doing what is 100% correct.  I am not interested in ANYTHING “that will work” if it is not 100% true and correct.  I don’t care how much money I’m leaving on the table.  If it’s not 100% true, legal, and correct . . . I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE . . . PERIOD!

     

    Consider the two species of information returns issued by the SSA:

     

    1.  SS 1099R for a “U.S. person”

    2.  SS 1042S for a “nonresident alien”

     

    OK . . . so if you want to be a non-“taxpayer”, you had better be a “nonresident alien.”  So, how do you do that if you are a “U.S. person”?  Well, you change your status pursuant to 26 CFR 301.6109(g)(1)(i) AS A TAXPAYER.  And which SS-5 Block 5 status is eligible for an SS 1042S from the SSA?  There is only one:

     

    A “Legal Alien Allowed To Work.”

     

    Now what’s interesting about this SSA civil status is that it can belong to a “U.S. person” or a “nonresident alien” tax status under the IRC.  But a “U.S. Citizen” in Block 5 of the SS-5 will only have a “U.S. person” tax status.  So what this little virtual protection system does is tell the SSA what type of information return to NOT issue — as in . . . Don’t issue a SS 1042S to anyone with a CSP Code of A.”  This has the practical effect of keeping potentially 300,000,000 Americans within the confines of the Federal plantation with ZERO prima facie evidence on file ANYWHERE with the government that supports a non-frivolous “nonresident alien” claim down the road.

     

    I hope this makes sense.  Of course the statuses of the SS-5 are Federal taxpayer statuses.  But if you want to be a “nonresident alien” non-“taxpayer,” then you had better change your status first according to their rules as a taxpayer.  As evidenced by losthorizons and scores of other tax protester behavior across the nation, Americans are not willing to follow the rules set up by Congress.  They would rather shoot the middle finger to the government, say “I’m sovereign . . . I’m not subject,” and fight a losing fight their entire lives. 

     

    I am not interested in this.

  • neo

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    August 24, 2013 at 11:53 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    By “political choice” I meant choice with respect to political questions such as:

    1. Whether I am Baptist, Catholic, Muslim, or Buddhist;

    2. Whether I am Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian, etc.;

    3. Whether I am gay or straight; or

    4. Whether I am domiciled in Florida or the “U.S.” geographically defined in 42 U.S.C.

    Yes….it is a choice of civil status….but that choice is a political choice….as in choice of something which falls within the purview of a political question…..as opposed to choice of political status (nationality), which is also a political choice. I can choose to remain an American National….or I can choose to expatriate and maybe become an Italian National. I am free to choose whatever I want or else I am a slave.

  • neo

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    August 24, 2013 at 10:48 pm in reply to: "Legal Alien Allowed to Work" status on government forms

    First, I believe a “Lawful Alien Status” is one of the statuses that falls under the Block 5 election of “Legal Alien Allowed To Work” (“LAATW”).  The statuses addressed in the POMS table are statuses that apply to the class of persons over whom the Federal government appoints a civil status–namely, persons of foreign nationality.  This authority over these persons was granted to the the Feds in Art. I, sec. 8, cl. 4 of the United States Constitution.

     

    My alien status as a State Citizen is not something the Federal government appoints, rather, it is something I as a State Citizen elect — thus it is not addressed.  This does not mean that as a State Citizen I do not qualify as a LAATW, rather, it means that I am in the class of persons with this status that operates outside of the Federal government’s appointment policy.  This is because, as a State Citizen, my alien status under Federal law exists only through my election of domicile.  Because this is a political question, the Feds cannot even address it in their policy.  Thus, it is out of sight and out of mind.  It’s brilliant really.

     

    Now. . . with respect to the POMS definition of U.S. Citizen.  They are pulling a fast one here.  And under this section, I am certainly a political citizen of the nation of the United States by virtue of the Fourteenth Amendment–a political citizen eligible for program participation. 

     

    BUT . . . it is a HUGE presumption, and a presumption made almost exclusively . . . that a political “U.S. Citizen” under this POMS section is the same “U.S. Citizen” within Block 5 — it is not.  It cannot be.

     

    Block 5 statuses are civil statuses –not an inquiry into the nationality and thus, political status of the individual.  Thus, it is a status based upon a geographical definition that also takes into account the nationality of the individual at issue.  Why?  Because a person of foreign nationality possesses a civil status appointed by virtue of their mere presence on our soil.  Whereas, as a member of the U.S.A., my status is based on my election of domicile.  Thus, the only “U.S.” they can be referring to in Block 5 is the geographical one.  And we know that does not embrace the geography of the 50 states because they are:

     

    1.  Not specifically enumerated in 1301(a)(1); and

    2.  They are not in the same general class as those specified in 1301(a)(1), and therefore not within the expansion capability of the terms “includes” and “including” under 1301(b ).

     

    But, for persons of foreign nationality, their civil status is determined by virtue of their foreign political status and their relevant locus within the borders of our nation.  Thus, their presence invokes a civil status promulgated through a political definition of the “United States.”  Therefore, in the context of persons of foreign nationality present anywhere on American soil, the political definition of the “United States” is utilized to appoint their civil status.  Whereas, as a State Citizen a geographical definition of “United States” is used in the context of my domicile election within or without said geographical “United States” so defined.

     

    This is why the SSA claims that an American Samoan is a “U.S. Citizen for SSA purposes” in their own POMS–because it is civil citizenship and not political citizenship they are referring to.

     

    The whole issue is that they hide a State Citizen’s eligibility for a LAATW status by not even addressing it as a possibility in their POMS policy.  They can’t address it because domicile is a political choice for a State Citizen.  However, the Feds can appoint a civil alien status for participating franchisees who are of foreign nationality because the Feds have this authority which the State Citizens granted them in art. I, sec. 8, cl. 4.

     

    For State Citizens, it’s not addressed. . . thus it would appear to be an impossibility.  This is the greatest defense of the entire system.  The cognitive dissonance wall around the CSP Code change from A to B.  Because it is the code which gives the power to the SSA, SSS, the IRS, DHS, DMVs, etc, etc.  This is THE “A #1” issue to be fixed.  Get this changed, and the beast will be de-fanged.

  • neo

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    August 23, 2013 at 4:14 pm in reply to: Suit against state under IID

    Based on the definitions in the SS act, the franchise can ONLY be lawfully offered or enforced within the GEOGRAPHIC United States within 42 USC 1301, which is federal territory and excludes constitutional states of the Union.

     

     

    I don’t believe this to be the case. 

     

    I believe the purpose of the “United States” definition of 42 U.S.C. 1301(a)(2), when used in a geographical sense, is to provide an avenue for State Citizens to elect a proper status with respect to the SS franchise and the “United States” definition at issue — a domestic or alien ELECTION commensurate with choice of domicile relative to said geographical “United States” (domestic municipal jurisdiction).  However, if the individual is a person of foreign nationality, the “United States” of 1301(a)(2), when used in a political sense, is there to provide a definition which imports the proper status for them — an alien APPOINTMENT by Congress under law (U.S. Const., art. I, sec. 8, cl. 4) relative to said political “United States” (the nation).

     

    Social Security is a franchise.  We know that–

     

    Debitum et contractus non sunt nullius loci — Debt and contract [franchise agreement, in this case] are of no particular place.

     

     

    The franchise can be entered by anyone and anyplace by virtue of a W-4 submission with a work-eligible SSN (and assuming the “employer” also has a legitimate EIN).  Now, if the individual does not have a work-eligible SSN, then clearly, the place of said franchise agreement is irrelevant, as the franchise agreement would be void and of no effect.

     

    No . . . this assertion of “applicability to only the geographical United States” is something many have tried before with respect to the applicability of the tax.  This has never prevailed.  The geographical meaning is there in order to establish a proper relevant status — nothing more.

     

    Stija, as for what the SCOTUS said in that case, I think what Admin said is correct and it was also addressed in Budd v. The People of New York.  To wit:

     

    That property which a man has honestly acquired he retains full control of, subject to these limitations: First, that he shall not use it to his neighbor’s injury, and that does not mean that he must use it for his neighbor’s benefit; second, that if he devotes it to a public use, he gives to the public a right to control that use; and third, that whenever the public needs require, the public may take it upon payment of due compensation.

     

    Budd v. People of State of New York, 143 U.S. 517, 550 (1892)

     

     

    So, I think all the judge is saying, is that IF someone enters into these franchise agreements as provided for (SS in this case), they are legitimate subjects of the tax.  But barring consensual participation, the code, as written, provides no avenue for Congress to tax the property.  The franchise must be entered into, and then even the natural right and the private property obtained therefrom are legitimate subjects of the tax.

  • neo

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    July 15, 2013 at 9:22 pm in reply to: Citation Assistance Please

    Many thanks!! 🙂

  • neo

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    July 15, 2013 at 6:27 pm in reply to: Citation Assistance Please

    Is anyone there willing to help a brother out by giving the library a call?  You know. . . to help leverage the time of those against whom the clock is ticking?  🙂

     

    Much obliged!

  • neo

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    July 15, 2013 at 2:59 pm in reply to: Citation Assistance Please

    Would the file help?

  • neo

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    July 6, 2013 at 4:08 am in reply to: Proof SS-5 Block 5 "Citizen" is a domiciliary

    Well, I filed as a “number holder.”  This is in rem, not in personam.  The SSN is the res-ident of the Federal franchise.  Their franchise . . . their property . . . all seated in the District of Columbia.  I, the number holder live within the judicial district of my state.  The issue deals with a franchise under the laws of the United States.  28 USC 1331 jurisdiction applies, not to mention a whole slew of others under Title 5 and Title 42.  But this is not my opinion . . . it is Congress’.

  • neo

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    July 6, 2013 at 3:56 am in reply to: Proof SS-5 Block 5 "Citizen" is a domiciliary

    You didn’t file your action as a CONSTITUTIONAL action, but a STATUTORY action under the relevant regulations. Only federal domiciliaries can invoke the “benefits and protections” of federal civil law. You invoked the protections without satisfying the domicile prerequisite. Therefore under Rule 17(b ), federal law cannot be invoked. The case therefore has to be dismissed just like the above.

     

    Well . . . it may very well get dismissed.  But not on the above grounds.  We will just have to agree to disagree.  Ironically, you and I agree on almost nothing.

  • neo

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    July 6, 2013 at 3:53 am in reply to: Proof SS-5 Block 5 "Citizen" is a domiciliary

    Obviously, the term “Legal” in the phrase “Legal alien” REALLY means STATUTORY and not CONSTITUTIONAL. 

     

    Yes.  If they meant political alien, they would have said so like you indicated.  Or perhaps they could have said “Lawful Alien Allowed To Work.”

  • neo

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    July 6, 2013 at 3:33 am in reply to: Proof SS-5 Block 5 "Citizen" is a domiciliary

    Yes, but Malajalian was a resident of Beirut — that is, he was not present on the constitutionally protected land like I am.  I am an American National on “the Land”, thus as one residing within my particular judicial district, I have access to the District Court located therein.

     

    an alien not ‘residing’ in any judicial district could not sue the United States in any district court.

     

    There was no District Court for Malajalian to access in Beirut.

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