Family Guardian | Ice | Activity https://famguardian.org/members/ice/activity/ Activity feed for Ice. Mon, 20 Apr 2026 17:36:19 +0000 https://buddypress.org/?v=2.21.0 en-US 30 hourly 2 2feb478841f19836906d9e3abb1aae7c Ice replied to the discussion Getting Out of SS in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/getting-out-of-ss/#post-8156 Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:24:24 +0000 Reply to Getting Out of SS

A DBA is not that easy to come by. Most counties and states have a huge problem with “same name” issues and refuse to acknowledge the difference. I know very few people (2) that have been successful in this area… and they are from the same state — CALIFORNIA.

I don't recall reading your opinion regarding W-8BEN versus W-8 or W-8… Read more

]]> d71cb50b93a9d8ca48fd4d9fad13476e Ice replied to the discussion SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual] in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/social-security-unconstitutionalitycontractual/#post-8145 Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:13:12 +0000 Reply to SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual]

Seems to me that you don't want to get it. And what is all this about “conspiracy”… I never said anything about “conspiracy”. You don't honestly believe that the gov. would be involved in some sort of “conspiracy” to steal your freedoms or your citizenship, do you??? Don't they provide us with the CORRECT DEFINITIONS of words and phrases… Read more

]]> 7913ab4cc2c38151b374bf8b365ddbe1 Ice replied to the discussion Getting Out of SS in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/getting-out-of-ss/#post-8154 Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:40:24 +0000 Reply to Getting Out of SS

Family Guardian,

I have NEVER been able to get Utility service without an SS number. They always DEMAND it. Without it, there is no service provided. They get the number or you don't get service. The same goes with banks. I have been to several banks, in Indiana and Illinios, and have not yet come across one that would open an… Read more

]]> bd79091a34b22f03aadd609051b86b99 Ice replied to the discussion SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual] in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/social-security-unconstitutionalitycontractual/#post-8143 Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:23:08 +0000 Reply to SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual]

Do you honestly believe that the gov. is going to let the cat out of the bag? Everything that you are a party to with the gov. is contract.

Note that “There is no individual contract between the beneficiary and the government.” is a repeating theme. (“individual contract”.) “Chairman Curtis. He has no contract? Mr. Dingell. As… Read more

]]> 30c92a42566dc44f94644bdeee39198f Ice replied to the discussion Amazed in the forum 9.1. Kudos from readers http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/amazed/#post-8260 Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:31:22 +0000 Reply to Amazed

As a matter of fact, I had a thought that I posted at another forum and would like to briefly share this with you…

The IRS is not a gov. agency… and the gov. says so.

But, all these gov. agencies, such as SSA and the Dept. of State, share information about “citizens” with this Privately owned business.

Sounds like a “privacy”… Read more

]]> 1f0d153132f9a8b340384659a0fc40b5 Ice replied to the discussion SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual] in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/social-security-unconstitutionalitycontractual/#post-8140 Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:23:07 +0000 Reply to SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual]

To be honest, I don't see how you're cites validate your conclusion that there is no contract… nor do I see that those cites support your conclusion.

A contract is an agreement. Either you have agreed to accept the terms and conditions of the SS program, or not. If you have agreed to the terms and conditions, then you have contract… and… Read more

]]> 9ee363bb7a834ae9f62387a5aba0245d Ice replied to the discussion Getting Out of SS in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/getting-out-of-ss/#post-8152 Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:53:04 +0000 Reply to Getting Out of SS

Thanx for the reply. I have the book and have been visiting the site for almost 2 years now.

Tell me, how is it that you “just do not use” the number?

Even with employment, if they find that you actually have a number, they will stick it to you. I ran across something to that effect in the IRC… I remember thinking that it doesn't matter… Read more

]]> e7644f9126c364395c2dac4c5a3bcfc8 Ice replied to the discussion SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual] in the forum 5.2.2. Quitting Social Security http://famguardian.org/forums/forums/topic/social-security-unconstitutionalitycontractual/#post-8138 Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:39:37 +0000 Reply to SOCIAL SECURITY [Unconstitutionality/Contractual]

“Click HERE to validate the quote. Basically, what the opinion is logically implying is that IF IT WERE, a contract then it cannot be modified. Now since the above quote states that it can modify the Act without constitutional restraints, it is therefore not a contract. Well what does that mean? This important court document informs us that… Read more

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