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Poldon,
This is NOT the appropriate forum to ask questions about SEDM materials. Post on their forums intead. This topic is locked to prevent others from answering. You must be a member to use their materials or to ask questions about their materials on their website. Their forums appear to have a topic area called “Tax Withholding and Reporting” where you can post your question.
Please in the future respect the requirement NOT to ask questions about SEDM materials in these forums. SEDM is a separate ministry and we don’t want to duplicate, compete with, answer for, or undermine anything they do or produce.
Section 5.3 of the article you linked to explains the terms “Union state citizen” and “transient foreigner” and we are not going to add to that discussion. If you need to know more, read their document:
Non-Resident Non-Person Position, Form #05.020
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htmIf you have further questions about the materials we linked to above, please post them in the SEDM forums and NOT here.
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Sergio,
Answers:
1. You can read Treasury Decision 2313 in the article below, put into context:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/CourtCases/BrushaberVUnionPacRR240US1.htm
2. You are confusing “nonresidents” and “nonresident aliens” on the one hand with “nonresident alien INDIVIDUALS” on the other hand. These distinctions were not made back when TD 2313 was issued because the I.R.C. wasn't even enacted at that time and didn't come on the scene until 1939. To find out what they meant in TD 2313, you would have to go back to the Revenue Act of 1915 and see how they defined it. Chances are, they meant an alien and “non-citizen nationals” are not aliens. If you want to research this, the following may be helpful:
http://famguardian.org/PublishedAuthors/Govt/HistoricalActs/HistFedIncTaxActs.htm
One can be a “nonresident” or a “nonresident alien” without being an “individual” or a “nonresident alien INDIVIDUAL“: All individuals are aliens and those born within a state of the Union are not “aliens”, and therfore neither “individuals“, “residents” nor “nonresident alien individuals“. This is covered in the following:
Nonresident Alien Position, Form #05.020, Sections 2, 3, and 14.4
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
All the duties, such as the duty to file and to use identifying numbers, pertain to “nonresident alien INDIVIDUALS“. For instance, 26 CFR 1.6012-1(b) imposes a duty to file a tax return upon “nonresident alien INDIVIDUALS” but none upon those who are not “individuals” (resident aliens). Nowhere is a duty imposed upon those who are “nonresidents”, “nonresident aliens”, or “non-citizen nationals” so they are excluded by implication from such duties.
QUOTE “Expressio unius est exclusio alterius. A maxim of statutory interpretation meaning that the expression of one thing is the exclusion of another. Burgin v. Forbes, 293 Ky. 456, 169 S.W.2d 321, 325; Newblock v. Bowles, 170 Okl. 487, 40 P.2d 1097, 1100. Mention of one thing implies exclusion of another. When certain persons or things are specified in a law, contract, or will, an intention to exclude all others from its operation may be inferred. Under this maxim, if statute specifies one exception to a general rule or assumes to specify the effects of a certain provision, other exceptions or effects are excluded.”
[Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, page 581]
For further details, see:
Legal Requirement to File Federal Income Tax Returns, Form #05.009, Section 8 (OFFSITE LINKS)
Sample[*] PDF in member subscriptions[*]Member Subscriptions-how to gain access to the above document
Being an “individual” simply means that you are nonresident but:
2.1 Have consensually waived sovereign immunity pursuant to 28 USC 1605(a)(2) and decided to engage in commerce within the legislative jurisdiction of the “United States” corporation in order to procure the benefits of the socialism franchise, such as free cheese, socialist security benefits, unemployment, etc. Describing yourself as a “nonresident” or a “nonresident national” who is NOT an “individual” and refusing to use a number avoids a waiver of sovereign immunity.
2.2 Have decided to surrender the benefits of being a sovereign “Citizen” under the Constitution in exchange for the disabilities of being a privileged alien so that you could engage in federal franchises.
2.3 You had to commit perjury to do the above, because you aren't an alien and there is no statute that allows you to describe yourself as either an “alien” or “individual” if you were born anywhere in the country. Neither could the government even lawfully write such a statute that applied within a state of the Union because the purpose of law is protection and they can't write a law that allows you to waive that protection under the Constitution. This would be a violation of the whole reason for having a government or a Constitution to begin with.
3. The W-8BEN form is only a “Taxpayer” form if you put a number on it and check one of the options in block 3. 26 CFR 301.6109-1(b ) says identifying numbers are only required in the case of “nonresident alien individuals” and you are not an “individual” if you are a non-citizen national. Even for “nonresident alien individuals”, they only need a number if they are selling real estate in the federal zone or are engaged in a “trade or business”, neither of which you are if you are a non-citizen national who does not serve in public office within the U.S. government. This is covered in:
About SSNs and TINs on Government Forms and Correspondence, Form #04.104
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
The W-8BEN form doesn't have an option in block 3 for those who are not “individuals”. 26 CFR 1.1441-1(c )(3) says that all “individuals” are aliens. If one is a non-citizen national, then they are not an “alien” or an “individual”, and therefore not a “nonresident alien individual”. As long as one doesn't check the “individual” block in box 3 and instead adds an additional option such as “transient foreigner”, and doesn't use a number as the following document suggests, then they continue to be a “nontaxpayers” who are not “individuals”:
About IRS Form W-8BEN, Form #04.202
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
Another alternative is to use the amended form in the above article or to use the substitute form, which is the following, and which indicates that it is a substitute for the W-8BEN:
Affidavit of Citizenship, Domicile, and Tax Status, Form #02.001
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
4. As far as rebutted arguments against the NRA position, See:
Nonresident Alien Position, Form #05.020, Sections 20 through 20.6
http://sedm.org/Forms/MemLaw/NonresidentAlienPosition.pdf
All of your questions are anticipated and addressed in the form 05.020. Please read it. Then read the Form 02.001 above. After you finish looking at these, you will better understand our answers.
Remember: The only thing the feds have jurisdiction over within a state are their own territory and franchises, which are property coming under Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 of the Constitution. Being a privileged alien or “resident alien” is a franchise that they have exclusive jurisdiction over, even in a state. That is why all “taxpayers” must be “individuals” and privileged aliens within states of the Union: Because the only thing the constitution grants them jurisdiction over within a state is foreign affairs, including jurisdiction over aliens. This is covered in section 20.1.2 of Form #05.020 identified above.
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Franklin,
Now THAT'S an interesting perspective on the dilemma we face as Americans that may lead to more compassion by members of this fellowship towards the legal profession and the government.
After we read Franklin's post, we looked in the help menus for Microsoft Word and found that the spelling and grammar checker can measure the “Flesch Reading Ease” and the “Flesch Grade Level”. This must be how they did their measurement to write the article.
Next, we turned on the readability statistics feature in the Tools –> Options menu. Then we opened the venerable Great IRS Hoax book, did a grammar and spelling check, and at the end of the grammar check, a new dialog box popped up with the readability statistics. Here is the score of the Great IRS Hoax, and we have to think that other documents on this website are at about the same level:
Flesch Grade Level: 12.1
Flesch Reading Ease: 43.6
The Flesch Reading ease is a rating of the document readability on a scale of 1 to 100. The higher the number, the more readable. The MS Word menus say you should aim for a score of 60-70 for most audiences.
You are therefore correct that the materials on this website are scholarly, because they are more complex and aim at high school graduates who are text-based rather than visual thinkers. This may also explain the difficulty in expanding our audiences and broadening the appeal of the content on this site: It may be too technical and not simple enough. If you want to look at our readership statistics, see:
http://www.quantcast.com/famguardian.org
334 thousand visitors a month to FG certainly ain't nothin' to complain about, but that audience could (and eventually WILL) be much larger if the reader level were a little lower and the documents were simplified to appeal to the “joe sixpack” types. This has been an aim of ours over the years: boiling down the content to simple, bite-sized chunks, and fulfilling that goal may explain why our readership has broadened. An example of our own efforts to simplify the tax subject is the following article, which explains the tax fraud in terms so simple that a jury can understand without ever cracking the Internal Revenue Code in a way that could easily exonerate anyone who ends up in front of a jury for willful failure to file. Over six years of research were necessary before the problem could be understood completely enough to explain it in such simple terms, however. The implication is that only those who really understand a subject and have been studying it for years can boil it down, and once they get it to that point, it is crucial that they share their perspective so others can stand on their shoulders and start a grass fire of truth and freedom seekers.
Why Domicile and Becoming a “Taxpayer” Require Your Consent
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Reme…ForTaxation.htm
It seems as though the SEDM folks (http://sedm.org), of all the other websites we have seen, have done the best job at simplifying the truth and translating it into something immediately useful and summarized. That is why we link to their forms so frequently on this website. Their forms page has a ton of useful forms that break the concepts down into bite-sized chunks that are immediately useful in an administrative and litigation setting by the neophyte. They also have a nice Liberty University and a Path to Freedom document that breaks progress into manageable, measurable steps toward sovereignty. They deserve a lot of kudos for boiling the truth down to manageable, usable, simplified chunks. We envy their efforts and thank them profusely every chance we get that they have made such excellent use of our materials within their forms and procedures. And, they are fighting the beast using its own techniques: Forms up the ying yang for every conceivable purpose with the goal of making is so simple that any dummy could do it and no one in their right mind in the government would ever want the truth in front of a jury in that form. See:
Liberty University: http://sedm.org/LibertyU/LibertyU.htm
Forms/Pubs: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015: http://sedm.org/Forms/Procs/PathToFreedom.pdf
Einstein put it best when he said the following on this subject:
Quote:The essence of genius is simplicity.A cruder way to restate the above wisdom is to say the following:
Quote:Keep it simple, stupid!We have, on several occasions, been confronted by readers who stumbled upon our site years ago and who were scared away by the complexity and depth of what is here, but who eventually came back here after exploring all the other child-like websites out there on the subject of freedom to discover that they have everything they need right here and don't need to look anywhere else. They stumbled upon a diamond in the rough and didn't realize what they had until they looked at everything BUT this website and found that no one out there really understands the problem and that those who claim they do in fact do not because they aren't looking at things from a moral or spiritual perspective like we do. The moral analysis of the problem is what differentiates us from the other freedom websites out there. Putting the problem in spiritual and/or moral terms also seems to be an effective catalyst to motivate readers to learn and read more. Since there is a lot to read, then the moral issues need to be passionate in order to motivate people to do the reading.
The We the People Organization (http://givemeliberty.org) unfortunately suffers from low readership because it is too intellectual. See:
http://www.quantcast.com/givemeliberty.org
Bob Schulz, the founder, is an environmental engineer and a political science major with a Master's degree. He is a text based thinker, an avid reader, and an intellectual. Seems like most of the people in the freedom movement are intellectuals who have strong egos, who talk above the heads of most people, and whose ego causes them to lack the empathy needed to improve their materials by simplifying them and making them more relevant to the average joe.
Before one can become a good writer, they must become an avid reader so they can learn how to write by observing others. Most Americans spend way too much time on the TV and reading is out of vogue. That is why the reading level has to go down for political speeches: We Americans are being systematically and deliberately dumbed down both in the public schools and by the media, both of which are regulated and controlled by a government that is more intrested in producing good sheep who will join the corporate borg when they leave high school, instead of independent thinkers who don't watch TV and thrive off books. See:
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
I, for one, hate TV and don't watch more than an hour every week. It's a disgusting cesspool. I enjoy reading law books, dictionaries, and technical books much more because they expand the mind and empower the reader.
What Franklin points out is evidence of a bigger problem, which is that we now have a society run by what I call “pseudo-intellectuals”, who are people who have letters after their name, who have the credentials to be able to claim they are intellectuals and who beat their chest all the time in front of the public about those credentials, but who have NO COMMON SENSE, no sense of MORALITY OR COMPASSION, and who don't have a clue about how to apply the moral laws found in the Holy Bible to the every day affairs of life such that they could be called “decent” people. In short, they lack wisdom, which the Bible says comes ONLY from God, because they lack God:
Quote:Proverbs 2Moral Benefits of Wisdom
1 My son, if you accept my [Gods] words
and store up my commands within you,
2 turning your ear to wisdom
and applying your heart to understanding,
3 and if you call out for insight
and cry aloud for understanding,
4 and if you look for it as for silver
and search for it as for hidden treasure,
5 then you will understand the fear of the LORD
and find the knowledge of God.
6 For the LORD gives wisdom,
and from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.
7 He holds victory in store for the upright,
he is a shield to those whose walk is blameless,
8 for he guards the course of the just
and protects the way of his faithful ones.
9 Then you will understand what is right and just
and fair—every good path.
10 For wisdom will enter your heart,
and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.
11 Discretion will protect you,
and understanding will guard you.
12 Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men,
from men whose words are perverse,
13 who leave the straight paths
to walk in dark ways,
14 who delight in doing wrong
and rejoice in the perverseness of evil,
15 whose paths are crooked
and who are devious in their ways.
16 It will save you also from the adulteress,
from the wayward wife with her seductive words,
17 who has left the partner of her youth
and ignored the covenant she made before God. url=”http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=24&chapter=2&version=31#fen-NIV-16451a”]a[/url
18 For her house leads down to death
and her paths to the spirits of the dead.
19 None who go to her return
or attain the paths of life.
20 Thus you will walk in the ways of good men
and keep to the paths of the righteous.
21 For the upright will live in the land,
and the blameless will remain in it; 22 but the wicked will be cut off from the land,
and the unfaithful will be torn from it.
[Prov. 2, Bible, NIV]
This website criticizes pseudo-intellectuals and exposes them for the frauds that they are. For an example, see:
About Us Page, Section 9
http://famguardian.org/aboutus.htm
Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers, was NOT a pseudo intellectual. Instead, he had the largest library of books at the time, never married, and spent his evenings in his vast library. Just before his death when he had to declare bankruptcy, he sold off his HUGE library to Congress for about $200,000. The University of Virginia bought his home and restored it, which is now on campus grounds. You can view some of the documents in his library below:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/T…on/jeffcont.htm
Common sense whose foundation is morality and the Bible is no longer common, but has been destroyed by the corporate government borg who administer our public propaganda academy called “public school” and who drives religion out of public life in every way possible. That problem also now extends to the college level because many universities are now public as well. The borg has done a great job graduating corporate drones who have no sense of conscience, who never question authority, and who are created in the image of their parens patriae, the government, which is a corporation. From “womb to tomb”, these corporate drones who function without morality or ethics are the real ones who are destroying America and its noble foundations. In his famous work “Democracy in America”, Alex DeTocqueville said that “America was great because America was good”. By “good”, he meant moral. See:
http://famguardian.org/PublishedAuthors/In…ca/toc_indx.htm
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Vic Varjabedian is the author of Cracking the Code, which is a UCC redemption approach that we don't advocate or support. If you are going to advocate his views on these forums, we encourage you to go elsewhere for the reasons identified below:
Policy Document: UCC Redemption, Form #08.002
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm (OFFSITE LINK)
Everything one could possibly want to know about the unlawful enforcement of the revenue codes against those who are not “taxpayers”, which by the way includes most Americans, can be read for free in:
The Great IRS Hoax
http://famguardian.org/Publications/GreatI…reatIRSHoax.htm
Everthing needed to apply the above to getting free is found at:
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm (OFFSITE LINK)
Beyond that, we don't care to discuss Varjabedian's views on these forums or the content of his “Cracking the Code” book because they are flawed for the most part and don't deal directly with the real problems in our society. Read the Hoax book and stick to learning and enforcing the law as written and as interpreted according to the strict rules of statutory construction. Doing so is what makes one free of tax fraud and many other forms of government corruption rampant in a corrupted modern America.
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Everyone here is or should be strongly affected by Ayn Rand's work. There is a link to her work on the bottom of the taxes page entitled “Who is John Galt” at:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/taxes.htm
That link leads to the following link:
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Bing,
Those are great observations and worth the time. At some point, such as in my comments about the lead post, a distinction does need to be made between a “nonresident alien” and a “nonresident alien individual”. I can't imagine how to make such a distinction any way other than I did. You are right. I could have left mention of a “nonresident alien non-individual” out of the discussion.
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After carefully reading the lead post in this topic, we would like to correct some inaccurate statements that “The Informer” makes:
1. The following sentence IS NOT currently found in 31 USC 392, but rather 31 USC 5103. His article is probably old:
“All coins and currencies of the United States (including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve banks and national banking associations) . . . shall be legal-tender for all debts, public and private, public charges, taxes, duties and dues.”
2. The phrase “public and private” is missing from 31 USC 5103 and is NOWHERE FOUND in Title 31 of the U.S. Code. Therefore, FRNS are ONLY suitable for use in “public activities”…e.g. a “trade or business”. That problem has existed since Title 31 was enacted into positive law on Sept. 13, 1982.
3. The above considerations are further exhaustively documented in:
The Money Scam, Form #05.041
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
4. The Legal Tender Status link he provides to the treasury still has the language he mentions, but he fails to accurately explain why. The reason is that Federal Reserve Notes are only legal tender for PUBLIC debts. No law makes them legal tender for PRIVATE debts. In fact, the ability to regulate or dictate what PRIVATE people do is “repugnant to the constitution”, according to the U.S. Supreme Court. That is why all “taxpayers” must be public officers in the government and all taxable activities must be incident to such a public office. See:
Why Your Government is Either a Thief or You are a “Public Officer” for Income Tax Purposes, Form #05.008
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
5. He incorrectly references “nonresident aliens”, when the regulation does not use that word. It refers to “nonresident alien individuals“, and the two are NOT equivalent. All “individuals” are aliens, while nonresident alien NON-individuals include those who are nationals but not aliens, such as those domiciled in states of the Union. That subtle distinction is VERY important, as demonstrated by the memorandum below:
Non-Resident Alien Position, Form #05.020, Section 2
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
6. We don’t agree with “The Informer” that use of Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) makes one liable for the income tax, because the average American born within a state of the Union and domiciled there is NOT a “nonresident alien individual”, but a “nonresident alien NON-individual”. He only becomes an “individual” by committing perjury on a government form and declaring him/her self to be one. Otherwise, he or she is not such a “person”.
As far as franklin’s insightful comments, he is correct that it is entrapment to compel people to engage in a “trade or business” but he isn’t clear about who is instigating it. It’s not entrapment FOR THE GOVERNMENT because it is a CRIME in violation of 18 USC 912 to impersonate a public officer of the government, and the only way you can be a “taxpayer” is to be a public officer. See:
Why Your Government is Either a Thief or You Are a “Public officer” for Income Tax Purposes, Form #05.008
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
What is happening in practice is that the banks instead of the government are engaging in the entrapment, because they are the ones mandating that those opening accounts MUST have a Taxpayer Identification Number. If it weren’t for that “policy” and not law decision by the banks, and their equally damaging policy and not law decision to file usually FALSE AND FRAUDULENT information returns against their depositors, there would in practice be almost NO “taxpayers”. See:
Correcting Erroneous Information Returns, Form #04.001
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
26 U.S.C. 6109 and the regulations at 26 CFR 301.6109-1(b ) which the banks cite as the origin of the requirement for depositors to have TINs don’t even address “nonresident aliens” who are NOT “individuals” and therefore they are not required to have numbers, meaning most people in states of the Union are not required to have them. Even if the bank confuses a “nonresident alien NON-individual” for a “nonresident alien INDIVIDUAL”, the number is STILL only required if the NRA is engaged in a “trade or business” and a public office in the government, which isn’t true in the case of nearly all depositors opening accounts. Therefore, the source of the entrapment is the banks and not the government and the banks are not constrained by the Constitution and therefore immune from prosecution, at least in the mind of most people.
In practice, when the banks act as withholding and reporting agents under 26 USC 7701(a)(16) and force depositors to have numbers, they are in effect acting as federal “employment” recruiters and are doing so in a “quasi governmental” capacity that DOES make them liable for violations of constitutional rights. All it would take to fix this problem is just a handful of exemplary prosecutions by the DOJ or by a private party for banks (as quasi-governmental “withholding agents”) that are compelling depositors to procure numbers that depositors aren’t required to have and the tide would quickly turn in the other direction.
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Timbawulf,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and clarifying your situation. Some answers:
1. You become a member by:
1.1 Joining these forums1.2 USING any of the materials on this website. By “USING” we mean sending them to the government, a lawyer, or submitting them as evidence or an attachment to pleadings during litigation
1.3 Asking for help from a member of this felllowship.
Membership in family guardian and sedm are separate and distinct. You join familly guardian by signing up for the forums, requesting our help, or USING our materials as indicated above. You can't post in these forums without being a member, so you are already a member.
2. You confuse READING AND LEARNING with USING. Anyone and everyone, including non-believers, is welcome to read and learn the materials on this website, but they may not USE them by sending them into the government or legal profession unless they are members who are using them properly. This is the same policy as sedm.org has, and we think, after examining their webstie, that this is a good policy which protects the credibility of everyone. The intent of this prescription is: 1. To protect both you and us from being discredited or hurt; 2. To protect the courts and the government from abuse of our materials and ultimately, from violations of law that can or may result from such abuse.
3. We already said that we applaud what you are trying to do, but only if it is done consistent with the Path to Freedom document and in the RIGHT order. Doing the right thing at the wrong time or in the wrong sequence injures people.
4. Thanks for posting to these forums. We hope you will stay here and continue to bless fellow members and the public with your research by sharing and posting it here. We welcome people such as yourself who are trying to disseminate the truth to the masses.
5. We do not have a martyr complex, but at the same time are ever mindful that members of this ministry have in the past been the subject of protracted litigation for nothing more than political speech that is non-factual. The basis for said litigation was that third parties relied upon materials they were specifically told they could not rely upon, and then they blamed the defendant (who is not us) for the consequences of that ill-founded reliance upon materials on this website. We seek only to avoid all those who refuse to take responsibiliy for themselves and all their choices and actions. That human weakness is one that the government promotes and fosters, and it is the same method by which the government persecutes all those it doesn't like: Find someone who has used our materials and who blames others, use them as a witness to testify against us, and pursue an injunction to silence the truths of the government's own misdeeds based on the testimony of the disgruntled person who refuses to take responsibility as a basis. One cannot be too careful in that department.
We have corrected our Forums Registration page link and described the terms for joining on that page. Thanks again for sharing your feedback and thereby improving this website so that it may be an even greater blessing to others and bring more glory to the Lord we exist to serve and obey.
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Timbawulf,
1. You didn’t identify if you are a Member and if you are following all the requirements documented on this site:
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htmIf you are not a Member, you have no business using the materials on this website to interact with the government or legal profession and will likely and ultimately discredit and injure both yourself and us if you do. We won’t help you abuse our materials or informaiton by violating the above guidance. Until you identify if you have read the above and how far along you are, or why you aren’t reading and following them, it is inapproriate to ask for help on these forums. Filling out the Compliance Questionnaire at the end and giving it to the person you want to help you would also be required.
2. You are asking us to make legal determinations about your status and make promises about outcomes. You talk about “safety”, which implies you want insurance, not information. We and all the members of this forum are forbidden from offering advice or promisses or insurance or making assurances about anything by our Prohibited Activites found at:
About Us, Section 12: Prohibited Activities, Items 6 and 8.
http://famguardian.org/aboutus.htmAll you can ask for is information, it can’t be related directly to your situation, and it must be hypothetical. Otherwise, it is advice.
3. You didn’t indicate if you believe in God. We can’t help those who don’t. Neither does the government help those who are not “taxpayers” or “citizens”. If you don’t like it, criticize the government FIRST, because we’re just imitating their approach. See the Prohibited Acitivites above, item 2. As Bob Dylan says, “You Gotta Serve Somebody”, and its either going to be the devil or the Lord. If it ain’t the Lord, its going to be the government, which is a synonym for the devil.
4. All state issued ID, including both drivers licenses and ID cards, presume a “residence” on federal territory. The only thing one can use that doesn’t at this time is a U.S.A. passport applied for with the following instructions:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Citi…orAPassport.htmIf you haven’t acquired a passport using the above procedure, then you have nothing to use for ID that is not tied to federal territory or residence on federal territory. Therefore, all the evidence in your possession connects you to government franchises and living on the King’s Land. Bow down and worship Caesar, because everything that happens on federal territory belongs to him, is controlled by him, and is a privilege and a franchise.
5. By using the word “should”, you are asking for legal advice. You can’t ask questions in the form you are asking them. For guidance on how to ask them, see:
FAQs, question 1.16
http://sedm.org/FAQs/FAQs.htm6. You are asking for HUGE problems by admitting your filing status in a public forum and it’s irrelevant anyway. Now the person who contacts you could be a government mole looking to prosecute and persecute those who frequent these forums, or to find someone they can use as a mole or a wedge to attack us. What kind of FOOLS do you think we are? Now IRS CID agents will come out of the woodwork and send you private messages so they can find out enough about you to begin a criminal investigation. You’ve got to be a LOT more discreet than that.
7. More than adequate information is available in the W-8BEN form article you point to. Your questions are unnecessary. You are really asking for someone to tell you what to do so you can deflect responsibility to someone else for your decisions. You want insurance, not information, and ultimately, because you want a quick fix instead of earning your liberty by careful and long study, you are more likely to fall on your sword and blame us.
8. You missed the most important document in your search, which is the following. That article basically answers all your questions in such detail that you don’t need to post here. If you aren’t willing to read it, then bend over, because only believers who are also educated can be truly free:
Non-Resident Non-Person Position, Form #05.020
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htmWe at this forum want to help people, but only those who follow the rules and aren’t in this for money, a quick fix, or for personal reasons. You would appear to fall in all three categories. You’ve provided no evidence that you are following our rules and therefore must be presumed NOT to. Now you are asking us to help you circumvent these rules by offering help to those who haven’t assured us that they are being followed. Are you trying to get the members of this forum in trouble? The rules found in the Path to Freedom above are there for the protection of everyone and to prevent violations of law and risk to everyone. Are you or are you not following them and are you a believer or not? You are bypassing the most important steps to become sovereign, which is belief in God and developing evidence that you are sovereign, and yet you want to “act” sovereign.
We realize the expediency of your circumstance and we aplaud what you are trying to do, but we can’t bend the rules for anyone without violating the law or encouraging others such as yourself to at least “look” like they are violating the law because they have no evidence to prove their sovereignty BEFORE they start acting like a sovereign. There are no quick fixes here and we don’t bend the rules for anyone. Piss poor planning and no preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on our part.
Yes, there is room for mercy and grace and people who deserve both should receive them if they are willing to give them. You don’t deserve them because you have come at the eleventh hour searching only to benefit yourself and no one else, and for selfish motives. At the same time, we should always reap what we sow or we are rewarding irresponsibility and thereby committing mutiny against God’s laws. That’s the Golden Rule Jesus spoke about in Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31. Our pagan government has made a business (a “franchise”, to be precise) out of rewarding and perpetuating irresponsibility and this world doesn’t need any more of it. You are acting like the seven foolish virgins mentioned in the bible who have no oil for their lamp when the bridegroom comes. You come with selfish motives and so you should reap selfishness. This is the same approach God took with Solomon, the wisest man ever to walk the earth. Solomon was blessed by God ONLY because he did not have selfish motives:
Then God said to him: “Because you have asked this thing, and have not asked long life for yourself, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have asked the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to discern justice, behold, I [God] have done according to your words; see, I have given you a wise and understanding heart, so that there has not been anyone like you before you, nor shall any like you arise after you. And I have also given you what you have not asked: both riches and honor, so that there shall not be anyone like you among the kings all your days. So if you walk in My ways, to keep My statutes and My commandments, as your father David walked, then I will lengthen your days.”
[1 Kings 3:11-14, Bible, NKJV]
If you had been regularly contributing to these forums and unselfishly been helping others and learning in the process, you would have received mercy and help. Since you didn’t, then you should reap what you sow, which is nothing. This too is the approach God takes towards us:
” How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity?
For scorners delight in their scorning,
And fools hate knowledge.
Turn at my rebuke;
Surely I will pour out my spirit on you;
I will make my words known to you.
Because I have called and you refused,
I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded,
Because you disdained all my counsel,And would have none of my rebuke,
I also will laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your terror comes,
When your terror comes like a storm,
And your destruction comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.
” Then they will call on me [God], but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.
Because they hated knowledge
And did not choose the fear of the LORD,
They would have none of my counsel
And despised my every rebuke.Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way,
And be filled to the full with their own fancies.
For the turning away of the simple will slay them,
And the complacency of fools will destroy them;
But whoever listens to me will dwell safely,
And will be secure, without fear of evil.”
[Prov. 1:22-33, Bible, NKJV]
We welcome everyone to these forums. But those who demand help ought to be contributing members who are here for the right motives, or else they invite persecution and reproach upon this ministry and all of its members.
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A paper is linked on our website which proves that the “straw man” exists. See
Proof that There Is a “Straw man”, Form #05.042
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redpilltaker,
This is the WRONG website to ask such questions. Our Prohibited Activities list found in Section 12, Item 13 at the link below:
http://famguardian.org/aboutus.htm
Prohibits members from using any of the materials or these forums for such purposes. If anyone answers you, this post will be deleted.
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That author doesn't use license or registration. What is there to produce?
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Riverway,
I just tried it, and it's a lot faster. Must be your computer or ISP or time dependent.
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This message is in response to the previous post by Lambskin.
This site does not endorse or condone:
1. The use of bills of exchange.
2. Any commercial use of the “straw man” referred to by Lambskin.
3. Making a “claim” with the government or any other entity using the straw man in order to benefit oneself in any way.
4. That a 1099 is a lien on anything. It does connect private property to a public office per 26 USC 6041(a), but in most cases the report is false. Even after being provided evidence proving that these information return reports are false, the government self-servingly tries to reduce this to a security interest through fraudulent Substitute For Returns, but they don't become “notice of liens” or “liens” until the SFR, which is a proposed assessment and not a lawful assessment, is consented to by the “taxpayer” and becomes recoverable through collection enforcement pursuant to 26 USC 6020( 😎 and 26 USC 6201. See:
Why the Government Can't Lawfully Assess Human Beings Persons With an Income Tax Liability Without Their Consent, Form #05.011
FORMS PAGE: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Form…smtsIllegal.pdf
We strongly disagree with those who intend to use the straw man to procure any “benefit”, and especially goverment “benefit”. The straw man is a creation of the government and therefore can only be used for the “benefit” of the government and not any private person or member of this ministry. We advise readers that they are endangering themselves to pursue the path advocated by Lambskin, who is a government mole. For reasons, see:
1. Policy Document: UCC Redemption, Form #08.002
FORMS PAGE:http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Form…icyDocs/UCC.pdf
2. The Government “Benefits” Scam, Form #05.040
FORMS PAGE:http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Form…deOrBusScam.pdf
3. Proof that There is a “Straw Man”, Form #05.042
FORMS PAGE:http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Form…aw/StrawMan.pdf
Lambskin is trying to get the people associated with this ministry in trouble, which is what we would expect from a suspected government mole. The post about trading prisoners like cattle is meant to uncover government corruption, not to advocate that it be emulated or imitated by anyone associated with this ministry as Lambskin erroneously and presumptuously suggests. Two wrongs do NOT make a right.
Lambskin:
If you think that a 1099 is a “lien”, why don't you present the evidence supporting such a conclusion for all of us to examine. In the meantime, the following document proves that it ISN'T and stands as truth until rebutted with evidence:
Correcting Erroneous Information Returns, Form #04.001
FORMS PAGE: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Forms/Tax/CorrErrInfoRtns/CorrErrInfoRtns.pdf
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rbccmrn
The place to begin is the following:
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
The direct link is:
http://sedm.org/Forms/Procs/PathToFreedom.pdf
The above file appears:
1. On the Freedom page in red letters.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Freedom/Freedom.htm
2. On the Taxes page.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/taxes.htm
3. On the opening page in big letters at:
Don't see how you could miss it.