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Neo,
You’re confusing the issues again:
1. The “U.S.” one has allegiance to is NOT defined, and can be any of the three. A person domiciled in a state can have allegiance to the confederation of states described in the Constitution, but not the “United States**” government. This is consistent with Black’s Law Dictionary definition of “state”, which is the people occupying a territory, who are the sovereigns, and NOT the government who serves them.
Quote:“State. A people permanently occupying a fixed territory bound together by common-law habits and custom into one body politic exercising, through the medium of an organized government, independent sovereignty and control over all persons and things within its boundaries, capable of making war and peace and of entering into international relations with other communities of the globe. United States v. Kusche, D.C.Cal., 56 F.Supp. 201 207, 208. The organization of social life which exercises sovereign power in behalf of the people. Delany v. Moralitis, C.C.A.Md., 136 F.2d 129, 130. In its largest sense, a “state” is a body politic or a society of men. Beagle v. Motor Vehicle Acc. Indemnification Corp., 44 Misc.2d 636, 254 N.Y.S.2d 763, 765. A body of people occupying a definite territory and politically organized under one government. State ex re. Maisano v. Mitchell, 155 Conn. 256, 231 A.2d 539, 542. A territorial unit with a distinct general body of law. Restatement, Second, Conflicts, §3. Term may refer either to body politic of a nation (e.g. United States) or to an individual government unit of such nation (e.g. California).[…]
The people of a state, in their collective capacity
, considered as the party wronged by a criminal deed; the public; as in the title of a cause, “The State vs. A.B.”
[Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 1407]
2. The “U.S. national” they are referring to is described in 8 U.S.C. 1408 and 8 USC 1101(a)(22)(:cool: and in deed and in fact was born anywhere in American and is domiciled in American Samoa and Swains Island and NOT a state of the Union. We never said that people in a state are “U.S. nationals”, but simply “non-citizen nationals”.
3. A Union state American is NOT a statutory “U.S. national” as described in 8 USC 1408, 8 USC 1101(a)(22)(:cool:, and 8 USC 1452, but rather simply a “national” as defined in 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(21) and 8 USC 1452. Title 8 of the USC doesn’t define and can’t define how one becomes such a national because the feds have no civil or legislative jurisdiction to define the status of persons within a foreign state, which is a state of the Union. The only power relating to citizenship that the feds can have within the borders of a state is to define a “uniform rule for naturalization” pursuant to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the Constitution.
4. There are TWO types of nationals, based on the discussion above: A “national” of a state and a “U.S. national” born anywhere in America and domiciled in American Samoa or Swain’s Island. The article to which you refer is only addressing the American Samoa or Swain’s Island variety. They deliberately use ambiguous language by not defining which of the three “United States” they mean in the article, but the one they mean obviously implies the “United States**” government and NOT the states of the Union. This is a different type of allegiance than the one I have, which is to the PEOPLE within the states described in the Constitution, and NOT to the RULERS who serve them and manage their community property called federal territory. That allegiance is entirely consistent with the Biblical commandment to love your neighbor in Exodus 20:12-17, because these people are in fact and in deed NEIGHBORS in every sense of the word. Allegiance is owed to the sovereign within any jurisdiction, and that sovereign is WE THE PEOPLE, and not the governmetn who serves them. The tyrants in D.C. are NOT “neighbors” in any biblical sense, but simply satan worshippers. The following document clearly proves that ALL civil rulers represent SATAN and not God:
Delegation of Authority Order from God to Christians, Form #13.007, Section 4.2.2
FORMS PAGE: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Forms/SelfFamilyChurchGovn…OfAuthority.pdf
You can’t have allegiance to these tyrant people because you can’t have a king above you, according to 1 Samuel in the Bible. If you do have allegiance, you’re violating your Biblical delegation order and are representing Satan, and not God.
5. One can be a “non-citizen national” pursuant to 8 USC 1101(a)(21) and 8 USC 1452 born within and domiciled within a constitutional state of the Union WITHOUT also being the statutory “U.S. national” described in 8 USC 1408, 8 USC 1101(a)(22)(:cool:, and 8 USC 1452.
6. The problem with calling yourself a “U.S. national” or anything else not defined in the statutes directly is that you invite false presumptions. The term “U.S. national” as used in the article to which you refer is not statutorily defined and therefore ambiguous. I won’t and don’t use anything with “U.S.” in it to describe myself and don’t use words that aren’t defined. Its easier to simply say:
Quote:“I am an Arizona National”, where Arizona is the state I was born in. Since Arizona is part of the United States of America and Not the “United States”, that makes me a “national of the United States of America” and NOT the “United States**”. Since they don’t use “United States of America” on government forms, I simply list the name of the state as the country I was born in instead of “United States” or “United States of America”. Hence, I’m an Arizona National and Arizona is the COUNTRY I was born in.This is consistent with the U.S. Supreme Court’s holding that the states of the Union are “nations” in every particular:
Quote:“The States between each other are sovereign and independent. They are distinct separate sovereignties, except so far as they have parted with some of the attributes of sovereignty by the Constitution. They continue to be nations, with all their rights, and under all their national obligations, and with all the rights of nations in every particular; except in the surrender by each to the common purposes and objects of the Union, under the Constitution. The rights of each State, when not so yielded up, remain absolute.”Everything I just said is restated in:
Why You are a “national” or “state national” and not a “U.S. citizen”
http://famguardian.org/Publications/WhyANational/WhyANational.pdf
Please read the entire pamphlet, because its a waste of time repeating ourselves here. Please limit your questions to things that aren’t already addressed in that pamphlet. What you asked is already addressed. The table in section 10.1, items 2 and 3.1 show the distinctions between the two statuses clearly and the applicable statutes. Section 10.4 shows the differences graphically. You are probably confused because you are reading an old version of the pamphlet. Please use the CURRENT version of the pamphlet.
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1. You don't need funds to get them to comply if you consistently represent the truth in all your correspondence with them.
2. You don't need funds if you litigate individually without an attorney.
3. The purpose of this site it to get justice in the courts against those who violate our rights WITHOUT an attorney. That is why you should be here reading the truth: so you can get justice in spite of the criminal scienter of the government judges and attorneyss who administer our system of law and taxation.
4. Yes, we do want you here, but only if you strictly observe the constraints in my previous posts. The purpose of those constraints is only to avoid uses or abuses of our materials that are unlawful, fraudulent, or perjurious so you don't bring reproach on us. If you never use our materials but just read them, no harm done. When you are starting to USE our materials, meaning send them in to the legal profession or government or making demands on people in these forums in reference to your circumstances, then you must observe the above constraints. Otherwise, we don't care what you do with our materials and we don't want to interfere with or inconvenience your life in any matter.
Welcome to our forums and good luck.
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You're mincing words and confusing readers of this forum. View the following presentation and you will understand EXACTLY what's happening:
What they publish is not law, but “statutes” that become law or “activate” upon your personal consent. You don't become the “person” mentioned in the statute until you consent. The “person” mentioned in the DMV code is created by a combination of two forces:
1. You choosing a domicile within their jurisdiction and thereby becoming a “citizen” or “resident” subject to the civil law. That jurisdiction is public property called federal territory. They are the “landlord” for federal property and when they want you to follow their rules, you have to at least “pretend” that you are on their property by calling yourself a “U.S. citizen”. Its the golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
2. You applying for a “benefit” under the civil law, which in this case is a driver's license. This makes you subject to franchises implemented through the civil law.
You must become a “person” before you can be a “natural person”. Consent to a franchise agreement turns a human being/sovereign into a “person”. The above video explains it all very simply and very succinctly.
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Dawter,
We weren't indicating that you used materials off this site to interact with the government. We were simply warning you in advance, as a newbie, how to properly use our materials so you don't violate any law or bring reproach upon us by associating us with violations of law.
You sent in the wrong tax return form if you are domiciled in a state of the Union. The 1040 is only for resident aliens and if you were born in America and are domiciled within the exclusive jurisdiction of a state of the Union, you aren't a resident, “resident alien”, or alien. To describe yourself that way on a government form is perjury if you filed a 1040. The only case in which it wouldn't be perjury is if you were abroad at the time, in which case you would be a resident alien in relation to the foreign country you are in and interface to the I.R.C. through the tax treaty with the foreign country under I.R.C. 911.
You're quite welcome to participate in these forums and to contribute your research so long as you:
1. Learn and know what your correct status is.
2. Acknowledge that what you are doing in filing a 1040 is unlawful and constitutes perjury if you are a nonresident who is not married to a bona fide “U.S. citizen”. The only lawful way a nonresident can “elect” to be treated as a resident alien is if they started out as an alien AND are married to a statutory U.S. citizen and made an “election” to be treated as a “resident alien” under 26 USC 6013(g) and (h).
3. Attach affidavits of duress to all filings such as the Tax Form Attachment, Form #04.102; http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm indicating your correct status and the existence of duress to mispresent it because the IRS won't process your filings any other way.
4. Only use our materials for tax years in which you filed consistent with your correct status.
Otherwise, welcome to our forums.
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Dawter,
Welcome to our forums and thanks for your interest in the truth.
You're not allowed to use the tax materials on this site to interact with the government because you are misrepresenting your status by filing form 1040. Only Members who are all nonresident aliens and nopn-citizen nationals and who file either a form 1040NR with the Tax form Attachment, Form #04.201 (http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm) or who file a substitute form (Form 15.001 at http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm) can use our materials.
Those who file the 1040 are resident aliens and if they were born in this country and live within the exclusive jurisdiction of a state of the Union, you're not a resident alien and are committing fraud to file a 1040. We can't condone fraud or mistake or allow our materials to to be used by those committing fraud or mistake by misrpresenting their status on government forms as either “individuals”, “residents”, or “taxpayers”. If you want to know why it is fraud, see:
Nonresident Alien Position, Form #05.020
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
As a newbie, you need to get educated and follow the following document:
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
You have a lot of learning to do before you are qualified to use our materials. Please don't until them, but you are welcome to study in these forums and read our materials until you are up to step 14 in the Path to Freedom Above and have become a member.
Thanks for your interest in our ministry and fellowship. Please also reserve your questions until you become a Member and come up to speed. All your questions have been anticipated and answered in the curricula described in the Path to Freedom and we aren't able to provide individualized assistance.
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Johnwk,
Excellent. You have give us some new ideas for expanding the materials on franchises. After all, franchises are based on titles of nobility, destruction of equal protection, favoritism, and hypocrisy. Your quote proves that the founders didn't want partiality and therefore must also have been against all sorts of franchises, including corporations, government “benefits”, and the “trade or business” franchise that is the backbone of the modern income tax.
If any readers find similar quotes in the Congressional records or within Elliot's debates on the Constitution, please post them here so they can be used to improve the materials on franchises posted on this website.
Bravo.
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Update: December 30, 2008
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a…/NEWS/812300309
An Ashland man accused of promoting tax-fraud schemes and deemed a flight risk by a U.S. District Court judge in Medford last September was released by a Florida federal judge last week.
Eugene “Gino” Casternovia will be allowed to prepare for his trial at home instead of from a jail cell, he said.
The U.S. Department of Justice contends Casternovia presented and sold tax-fraud schemes at various trade shows and conferences around the world, including a presentation for 400 people aboard a cruise ship in the Mediterranean in May 2007. He faces a possible 25-year prison sentence and $750,000 in fines if convicted of conspiracy to commit money laundering.
Casternovia, 60, denies all the allegations.
Casternovia spent Sunday afternoon hosting an open house for friends at his Ashland home on Crispin Street.
After spending the past 114 days incarcerated in various prisons across the nation, Casternovia said he is 30 pounds lighter — and relieved the Florida federal judge released him in time to make it home for Christmas, he said.
“The first thing I did was hug my wife,” Casternovia said.
In September, U.S. District Judge Mark D. Clarke ruled that Casternovia, along with Rod Pendell of Ashland and Mark Lyon of Williams, were flight risks because they had successfully moved $3.4 million into offshore accounts, and an additional $1.2 million is unaccounted for.
Casternovia has said the money was spent on fees and business expenses.
The federal criminal injunction alleges Casternovia's company, Southern Oregon Resource Center Educational Services, worked as a vendor for a Florida-based company, Pinnacle Quest International, to promote the scams, which involved the use of fabricated offshore accounts to help customers conceal their assets.
Clarke ruled that the evidence presented by prosecutors shows the men say their permanent residence is Panama, and that they participated in an elaborate offshore tax-evasion scheme designed to defraud the U.S. government of income tax revenues.
Although he immediately appealed Clarke's decision, Casternovia was moved from the Jackson County Jail within days and traveled from one prison to the next — in Eugene, Portland, Seattle and eventually Tallahassee, Fla., he said.
It took 45 days to get from the Jackson County Jail to the Florida penitentiary, Casternovia said.
Other inmates told him the constant traveling is called “diesel therapy,” he said.
“They said it's meant to break you down,” Casternovia said.
Getting back home to Ashland was a lot faster. And life outside prison is a lot more pleasant, he said.
“The doors obey my commands and I can eat anything I want,” said Casternovia.
Casternovia declined to discuss specifics of his case. Preparations for the January 2010 trial is being handled by a Florida public defender, he said.
“I have faith in him,” Casternovia said.
Sunday was a day to be grateful to be home with family, and to thank those who have supported him, Casternovia said.
The home on Crispin Street in Ashland filled to overflowing with well-wishers. More than 30 people dropped by during the three-hour open house. Some of them had spoken at Casternovia's September hearing at the federal courthouse in Medford. Some held Bibles. Others hugged each other. One little girl clutched a tiny white teddy bear.
In September, Casternovia's wife, Kathryn, and their daughter, Amanda, had wept and stood as Clarke ruled that the men would remain in custody and marshals escorted the prisoners out of the courtroom.
Sunday they were all smiles.
“I'm glad my father's home,” said Amanda Casternovia.
Jeff Golden, an Ashland author and former county commissioner, spoke in court before Clarke's ruling. Saying he had no knowledge of the specifics of the allegations, Golden praised Casternovia's connection with the Ashland community and said he was a “model employer.”
Casternovia and his wife have lived in Ashland for 25 years and owned the now defunct Northlight vegetarian restaurant and the Rainforest Cafe.
Golden was among the many well-wishers at the Casternovia home Sunday afternoon.
“I'm feeling great. Really great,” Casternovia told Golden.
Casternovia said he is hoping “for justice.” He is also hoping his friends' loyalty would not cause them to “become targets of prosecution,” he said.
“It's been stressful. The hard part was seeing my friends stand up and defend me and expose themselves,” Casternovia said.
Reach reporter Sanne Specht at 776-4497 or e-mail sspecht@mailtribune.com.
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stija,
Off the top of my head, the following ideas come to mind:
1. All state sales taxes only apply on federal territory. See, for instance, California Revenue and Taxation Code, Section 6017, which defines “State” as federal territory for the purposes of the sales tax.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displayc…;file=6001-6024
2. The reason for this is that they can't tax the exercise of rights protected by the Constitution, including the right to acquire or sell property. Therefore, they can only institute the sales tax in places not protected by the Constitution, which is federal territory.
Quote:“Indeed, the practical interpretation put by Congress upon the Constitution has been long continued and uniform to the effect [182 U.S. 244, 279] that the Constitution is applicable to territories acquired by purchase or conquest, only when and so far as Congress shall so direct. Notwithstanding its duty to 'guarantee to every state in this Union a republican form of government' (art. 4, 4), by which we understand, according to the definition of Webster, 'a government in which the supreme power resides in the whole body of the people, and is exercised by representatives elected by them,' Congress did not hesitate, in the original organization of the territories of Louisiana, Florida, the Northwest Territory, and its subdivisions of Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin and still more recently in the case of Alaska, to establish a form of government bearing a much greater analogy to a British Crown colony than a republican state of America, and to vest the legislative power either in a governor and council, or a governor and judges, to be appointed by the President. It was not until they had attained a certain population that power was given them to organize a legislature by vote of the people. In all these cases, as well as in territories subsequently organized west of the Mississippi, Congress thought it necessary either to extend to Constitution and laws of the United States over them, or to declare that the inhabitants should be entitled to enjoy the right of trial by jury, of bail, and of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, as well as other privileges of the bill of rights.”[Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)]
3. The statutes that implement the sales tax can only obligate public officers and not private persons. The ability to regulate private conduct is “repugnant to the Constitution”, according to the U.S. Supreme Court. Therefore, those who have the obligation to pay the sales tax can ONLY be government agencies selling to government employees. See:
Why Statutory Civil Law is Law for Government and Not Private Persons, Form #05.037
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
4. The government can't and hasn't outlawed private property. The state ID (e.g. Driver's License) they issue you makes you a public officer because it can't be issued to either private persons or “non-residents”. The area one is a “resident” of is federal territory within the exterior limits of the state and you can't receive such “public property”, being the license, unless you are a public officer because it is conversion to issue public property to private persons. The essence of what it means to be a “public officer”, according to the definition of “public office” in Black's Law Dictionary is, in fact, one who posesses and uses public property for the benefit of the public and not themselves personally.
Quote:“Public office. The right, authority, and duty created and conferred by law, by which for a given period, either fixed by law or enduring at the pleasure of the creating power, an individual is invested with some portion of the sovereign functions of government for the benefit of the public. Walker v. Rich, 79 Cal.App. 139, 249 P. 56, 58. An agency for the state, the duties of which involve in their performance the exercise of some portion of the sovereign power, either great or small. Yaselli v. Goff, C.C.A., 12 F.2d 396, 403, 56 A.L.R. 1239; Lacey v. State, 13 Ala.App. 212, 68 So. 706, 710; Curtin v. State, 61 Cal.App. 377, 214 P. 1030, 1035; Shelmadine v. City of Elkhart, 75 1nd.App. 493, 129 N.E. 878. State ex rel. Colorado River Commission v. Frohmiller, 46 Ariz. 413, 52 P.2d 483, 486. Where, by virtue of law, a person is clothed, not as an incidental or transient authority, but for such time as de- notes duration and continuance, with Independent power to control the property of the public, or with public functions to be exercised in the supposed interest of the people, the service to be compensated by a stated yearly salary, and the occupant having a designation or title, the position so created is a public office. State v. Brennan, 49 Ohio St. 33. 29 N.E. 593.[Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition, p. 1235]
They can't require you to be on official business when you buy things or at any time you don't want to be working as a “public officer”. See sections 11.4 through 11.5:
Why Domicile and Becoming a “Taxpayer” Require Your Consent
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Reme…ForTaxation.htm
5. You decide when you want to donate your private property and labor to the public officer franchise, and you aren't required to be on duty when you buy things. As long as you use private ID such as a passport issued without SSN, or ID issued by a notary, you are a private person and not a public officer and therefore it is THEFT for them to withhold the sales tax because you aren't on duty as their employee and so you don't have to follow their employment contract. If you are using state ID, which is public officer ID, ask them to show you proof that you are required to be on duty when you buy things, and ask them for the paycheck to act as a public officer. The Thirteenth Amendment forbids involuntary servitude, so they can't require you to act as a public officer, and certainly not without compensation.
6. Like every other tax the state imposes, the sales tax is an excise or franchise tax upon public offices within “this state”, meaning within those who either work directly for “this state” or those serving as “public officers” for “this state” by virtue of lawfully participating in government franchises as one domiciled on federal territory that is not protected by the Constitution. “This state” means the GOVERNMENT, and not any geographical place. “This state” is a federal corporation, not a “State” mentioned in the U.S. Constitution or any state constitution. See the following excellent treatise for proof:
Corporatization and Privatization of the Government, Form #05.024
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rbccmrn,
You're GUARANTEED to lose if you carelessly call them “wages” or connect yourself with any status or word in the I.R.C., as you have. They aren't “wages” as legally defined unless you are a public officer in the government lawfully serving in a public office and who made an election and signed a contract to call your earnings “wages”. If you haven't figured that out by now after over a year on our site, then you shouldn't be using our materials.
Loose lips sink ships, and yours is sinking because you've fallen for the “word of art” quicksand that the covetous lawyer thieves in the District of Criminals foisted upon us. If you want to succeed, you must be FAR more careful with your choice of words. You might want to go back and reread:
1. Cites by topic: “wages”
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/CitesByTopic/wages.htm
2. Federal and State Tax Withholding for Private Employers, Sections 2 and 22.1
http://famguardian.org/Publications/FedSta…teWHOptions.pdf
The craft of lawyers is words. The ONLY thing they can use to steal from you is words, crafty definitions, and tricks with the word “includes”. You better watch your mouth whenever you're talking to one of these serpents. They can smell ignorance a mile away and the main way the make their mercedes payments is to prey on the innocent and the ignorant.
If you want words to describe what is being taken, use “earnings”. That word hasn't been hijacked yet by those in the District of Criminals.
Please quit milseading members of this fellowship with poor and careless choice of words. By your choice of words, you betray yourself as a “taxpayer”, and “taxpayers” aren't allowed to use these forums or our materials to interact with the government. We had to post this to prevent confusing people or condoning the misuse of our materials.
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The complete Senate Document 43 is on FG:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanki…SenateDoc43.pdf
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Did you see this? Text of H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-45 The commies are coming after our guns!
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Excellent! Thanks Riverway. Many of those who frequent these forums have read Atlas Shrugged, including ourselves. Quotes from it are prominently featured on this website, including the following at the bottom of the Taxation Page entitled “Who Is John Galt?”:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/JohnGalt/JohnGalt.htm
From the above article, the Money excerpt is the greatest:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanki…RandOnMoney.htm
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mckx5
We are very glad to see that Irwin’s Schiff’s present or past followers are taking an interest in this site and ministry, and especially on the citizenship issue. There is hope that more people will remove themselves from harm’s way by visiting here. The major failings of Irwin were:
1. Not understanding the citizenship and domicile issue. See:
1.1 Why You are a “national”, “state national”, and Constitutional but not Statutory Citizen
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt…hyANational.pdf
1.2 Why Domicile and Becoming a “Taxpayer” Require Your Consent
DIRECT LINK: http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Reme…ForTaxation.htm
2. Using a “resident” rather than nonresident tax return form, the 1040. This creates a false presumption that you are a privileged “resident alien” who has forefeited the benefits of “citizenship”. See:
Non-Resident Non-Person Position, Form #05.020
DIRECT LINK: http://sedm.org/Forms/MemLaw/NonresidentNonPersonPosition.pdf
FORMS PAGE: http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
3. Not understanding Social Security, using social security numbers, and not trying to quit the system. Even during his trial, he continued collecting Social Security checks and yet argued he wasn’t obligated to subsidize the very system that paid the benefits! What a contradiction. See:
Resignation of Compelled Social Security Trustee
DIRECT LINK: http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Forms/Em…stIndenture.pdf
If Irwin understood the above issues, quit social security and did not draw benefits or use identifying numbers, and filed the correct NONRESIDENT forms that placed him outside the jurisdiction of the BEAST, he would probably not be in jail right now, probably until he dies. VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. It is very wise of you to be focusing on these issues in these forums, because they are the main problems with Irwin’s approach. We also hope that the the failings of his approach crystal clear in the above materials and that is there is a way to make them more clear, you will provide feedback on how to do so in these forums.
Those readers who are or were Irwin Schiff followers at one point can read an analysis of all the failings of his approach that landed him in jail in the following:
Great IRS Hoax, Section 5.7.5
DIRECT LINK: http://famguardian.org/Publications/GreatI…reatIRSHoax.htm
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Neo,
Thanks neo for that clarification. You are correct to look in that document, whcih is also found on this website at:
Why You are a “national” or a “state national” and not a “U.S. citizen”
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt…hyANational.pdf
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mckx5:
Read the above document at least once and then go back and find your status in the charts in section 10.1, Table 9.
The answer is that:
1. All those born anywhere in the country are “nationals” as described in 8 USC 1101(a)(21).
2. Those born anywhere in the world under American law take on the nationality (e.g. “national”) of their parents, and in particular their father at the time of birth. This is called “jus soli” in legal jargon, which means “birth within allegiance of the king”. The “king”, in this case is “We the People” and NONE of our elected or appointed politicians. Even if your parents were statutory “U.S. citizens” at the time, they were also “nationals” pursuant to 8 USC 1401 because that is what it says in that section.
3. Whether one is also a statutory “U.S. citizen” pursuant to 8 U.S.C. 1401 in addition to being a “national” is determined by their domicile at any given time. Since their domicile can change and is elective, one can lose their statutory “U.S. citizen” status pursuant to 8 U.S.C. 1401 and revert back to a “non-citizen national” pursuant to 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(21) and 8 U.S.C. 1452 simply by changing their domicile or making a different “election” on government forms describing their “domicile”, “permanent address”, or “residence”.
4. Your parents were probably non-citizen nationals while abroad when you were born, regardless of what they “thought” they were. One cannot be a statutory “U.S. citizen” without a domicile on federal territory and one cannot choose a domicile or residence in a place that they have never physically been. Chances are, your parents were never physically present on federal territory before you were born and therefore couldn't practically or legally have a domicle there.
5. Therefore, you can choose to be a “national” even if your parentes were statutory “U.S. citizens” when you were born. Read the above article and you will see.
6. If you would like to learn more about the affect of domicile upon one's citizenship status, see:
Why Domicile and Becoming a 'Taxpayer” Require Your Consent
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Reme…ForTaxation.htm
Between the “Why you are a national” article earlier and the domicile article above, the truth should become very clear in your mind, especially after you read some of the links at the beginning of the domicile article.
As neo said, be patient with yourself. The only reason to become impatient is because you have no time to study, which is usually because of an addiction to unhealthy habits and mental junk food. As it says in the following document, quit watching mental junk food on TV, quit wasting time on unlealthy media saturation, quit surfing porn (if you are), take your television to the dump, and sit down in the quiet and clear your mind and read the word of God, and the extensive materials on this website, and your whole world view will change and you will quickly see the truth. Use the document below to guide your studies:
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015
http://sedm.org/Forms/Procs/PathToFreedom.pdf
The above document is also on the opening page of our website at the top of the page in big letters “START HERE”
There is admittedly a lot to learn, but before your mind can even begin to learn the real truth, you must undo all the damage and lies you learned in the communist, government run propaganda academy that you picked up as you were growing up. See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRGZLSVph3A
The truth is like the parable of the mustard seed in the Bible at Matt. 13:1-9.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_…&version=50
The seed can only grow if you prepare good ground for it to germinate in. Like the gentle farmer, you must till the ground, fertilize, plant the seed, water, pull the weeds, and carefully tend it and defend it as it grows. Parents must follow the same path with their growing and maturing children.
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Thanks, and we're glad you're concerned about such things. That case has been on Family Guardian for over 7 years.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Evid…ovDeniesIRS.htm
The above link is in section 5 of the Taxes Page:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/taxes.htm
For even further information, see:
Origins and Authority of the Internal Revenue Service, Form #05.005
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
The direct link is:
http://sedm.org/Forms/MemLaw/OrigAuthIRS.pdf
May I suggest that you turn off the TV and spend a lot more time looking at the rest of Family Guardian, and especially the above taxes page, if that is the subject that interests you most? Five minutes of familiarizing yourself with that page might save you hundreds of hours of research and reinventing the wheel, and especially if you are writing your own legal pleadings or response letters. Knowing what is on this site and being able to quickly locate it could, in fact, keep your butt out of jail at some point.
As one sage once said: “The only thing new under the sun is the history you do not know.”