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suijuris wrote:The idea I am promoting is not placing all of ones eggs in the same nest. I would not recommend that anybody make an investment they cannot afford to lose. That goes for fiat currency, stocks and bonds, gold, silver, real estate, etc.?
You seem to place a lot of trust in FRN's but I have not seen you put forth any data on why they are a solid investment now, or why they will hold their value as a means of exchange for decades to come. Not all of us are on the brink of retirement – some of us need something that will still have purchasing power in 2060.
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The FRN has not been around that long, and has not aged well in my book. What value will another 50 or 60 years, even with an economy as rosy as the present?
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At the current rate of inflation which will be worth more? FRNs or land? FRNs or gold? FRNs or silver? Can you provide hard facts?
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? I think it wiser to look at actual history for an idea of what to expect if a market or currency crashes rather than the fantasies of a screenwriter.
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History has a way of repeating itself, and one can use the process of elimination to accurately predict what will be the LEAST valuable in the event of a crash. Some of the wealthiest men in this country became far more wealthy through the 20's crash… Just luck, or did they have an educated idea of what would and would not increase in value?
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? Or… they may died grateful that they were given the peaceful time that they had, and felt like they WON. Who knows, do you?
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At any rate, the discussion was not about an event such as the Apocalypse or a comet smashing the earth to pieces. Those are situations in which the only considerations are planning for the afterlife. I am talking about analyzing history and data to minimize or avoid certain physical and financial risks.
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People plan for catastrophes every day, and they happen every day. We have natural catastrophes – floods, earthquakes, fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, and tsunamis. We have car, train, automobile, and airplane wrecks. We have people killing off other people at war, in our streets, and even in domestic environments, as well as robbery, rape, arson, and all other nature of crime that takes life and property.
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I do not dwell on these things, rather, I do my best to make wise choices so I do not need to worry, knowing I have taken reasonable precautions or have suitable escape plans. I make plans for my future safety and take needed precautions regardless of which way popular opinion is swayed by those who control the masses.
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Bill, would you put yourself, your family, or your assets in harms way? Would you not take every reasonable precaution to protect yourself, your family, and your livelihood? If not, is that not both negligent and a poor steward to boot?
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? Methinks you are trying to goad people with the faith card… that knife can cut both ways.
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How about you prove this great faith you have boldly professed, why not try the following: Move to the worst part of town and rip the locks off your doors, yank the fire alarms out, switch to wood burning heat, and keep your FRN collection on the front porch.
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No, you won't do that because it has nothing to do with faith, and everything to do with exercising the common sense endowed to most of us by our Creator and doing some PLANNING.
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? Worrying vs. Planning, can't you see any difference Bill?
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? Worrying is a Reaction that indicates Inaction.
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? Planning is Proactive and indicates Preparation.
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Thank you, in my opinion, this post addresses the assest issue fully!
- Quote:Originally posted by rattler14That's all fair and well, but it's still lost 97% of it's buying power in a about as many years. If i'm 24 now, by the time i retire, any money saved now would be worth spit in tomorrow's world.
Plus, it COULD remain strong, but do you want to put your retirement on the line when the FED is involved? I wish no harm upon you, but good luck if you or anyone you know wants to stick with dollars.
Dear rattler14, I think that we are on the same page, or at least in the same chapter, regarding the issue of all fiat currency, including Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs). I think that if you look at the links in my earlier post, it is clear that FRNs are headed for major problems, probably sooner, rather than later. However, I acknowledge that there may be a range of opinions on this issue, beyond what you or I may think. No, I agree with you, I don?t consider it wise to put ones retirement savings into FRNs, or any fiat currency. Yet, my point is that regardless of which of the above outcomes materialize, this is a good time to invest/diversify into hard assets, such as silver or gold, etc.
Further, I want to be clear, I feel that the only reason that fiat currency is used, over a long period, is to inflate the currency. Thus, steal from those who hold the currency. The history of fiat currency seems to bare this fact out. :ph34r:
LESS TO THE DOLLAR THAN MEETS THE EYE
Quote:When the dollar falls again ? which it will – it will also fall against Asian currencies, especially in anticipation of a yuan revaluation by Bejing. It is possible, of course, that the dollar can remain stronger for longer than anyone expects. But the whole currency regime can come crashing down much more quickly than anyone expects as well.It doesn?t happen often. But it does happen, and when it does, it happens despite the fact that most people think the world will always work the way it works today.
Emphasis added.
http://www.kitco.com/ind/denning/jun062005.html
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=133
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty…arty121001.html
- Quote:Woman Shocked
Florida police officers released video footage of an arrest where they used a taser gun twice on an uncooperative female driver.
In Boynton Beach, Florida, Officer Rich McNevin pulled Victoria Goodwin over for speeding, and soon discovered that she was also driving without a valid license, a broken windshield and a nonfunctioning brake light.
Emphasis added.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/17/…ain563855.shtml
Is this an example of the treatment one can expect when attempting to travel freely?
Welcome to the Family Guardian.
Please check this thread, Nationals/citizen?. How is this possible?
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh…st=0&#entry1467
Please be sure to study the links in the articles. As you may know, Family Guardian has provided many wonderful tools to aid you, take your time, and absorb as mush as possible.
I hope that this helps you. 😉
Dear Ichesson:
Quote:I have had the misfortune of having a company file a 1099MISC for year 1999. Having been properly chastised for even suggesting filing a form 4852 with a 1040, I am in need of additional understanding about correcting the administrative record.Obviously, I need to correctly rebutt this 1099, and by doing so, it would eliminate any liability in irs records for that year. I am not a Taxpayer and am not comfortable signing under penalty of perjury to the contrary. I don't particularly want to sign ANY government form when I have no liability.
After careful study of parts of this site as well as others, I have reached a few conclusions about correcting W-2's & 1099's and would also like to solicit your help in clarifying some of this info.
I think that everyone must find a solution to the Big Brother (B:cool: problem that works for them. It may be possible to send in the corrections that you want to make without using a Internal Revenue Service (IRS) form, to see if it will procure a response that you can live with. Of course the likelihood is that your letter may be ignored.
However, regardless of which path you choose to follow, sending your own letter or filing a IRS form, I feel that you should take certain precautions as suggested below.
Attach an Affidavit of Rescission (AoR) (Make sure that you indicate on the form(s)(4852, 1040, etc.) that it is invalid without the AoR, and all other material that you attach):
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Instruct…nshipStatus.htm
Maybe it is a good idea to review Don?t Get Discouraged by IRS Tactics:
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Instruct…tDiscourIRS.htm
Related topic:
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh…t=15&#entry1437
Good luck.
Here is an interesting article from the Guerrilla New Network (GNN), Petition to Impeach Bush:
Quote:Summary:Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) has decided to make a case for an Iraq inquiry by seeking 100,000 signatures from US citizens calling on President Bush to answer to the intelligence being “fixed” as stated in the Downing Street Memo. So far the White House has ignored a previous letter by eighty-nine members of Congress on May 5th.
To view the petition go “http://www.johnconyers.campaignoffice.com/index.asp?Type=SUPERFORMS&SEC=%7B0F1B03E0-080B-4100-B143-36A5985EF1E3%7D”
Now, constitutional lawyer, John C. Bonifaz is advocating a Resolution of Inquiry as to whether or not Bush violated Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitution: “The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” If resolved the Committe on Judiciary is directed to investigate and report to the House of Representatives whether sufficient grounds exist to impeach President Bush.
[Posted By “http://euroforex.gnn.tv”]
http://www.guerrillanews.com/headlines/310…to_Impeach_Bush
- Quote:Appeal Exposes Sham Tax Trial
Simkanin Appeal Underway
DOJ Responds Texas business owner Dick Simkanin's appeal is finally underway in the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.
This appeal is being made after two failed attempts by the government (in 2001 and 2002), before two separate grand juries to indict Simkanin (after hearing direct testimony from him), a successful indictment by a grand jury (where Simkanin was prevented from testifying), one mis-trial ending in a “hung jury” (where Simkanin testified freely on the witness stand), a second patently flawed criminal trial (and conviction) that made a mockery of Justice and Simkanin’s Due Process rights, and 21 months of incarceration.
Simkanin is appealing his conviction for multiple tax charges stemming from his belief that no law required him to withhold taxes from the paychecks of his workers and no law required him to file a federal tax return. (continued…)
WTP update:
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005-03-30.htm
Other information:
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005-05-27.htm
http://www.givemeliberty.org/NoRedress/His…efs2Up26pgs.PDF
Another Nail in the IRS coffin
We the People has a great article, “Hard Evidence That Form 1040
Has NO Legal Basis In Law”:
Quote:IRS Withdraws Criminal Allegation,Tax Convict Walks Free
Although the People's war against the income tax fraud and IRS abuse has been lengthy and daunting and has left many freedom fighters across our nation battered and bankrupt, there are continuing signs that the tide of tyranny may finally be meeting effective resistance.
On April 12th 2005, William Wallace Lear of Muskegon Michigan appeared in federal District Court in Grand Rapids to face IRS charges claiming Lear had violated the terms of his probation. William Lear had served one year in a federal detention facility in Minnesota following his conviction in 2002 for Willful Failure to File income tax returns (a misdemeanor). His probation began in March, 2004.
The basis for the probation violation hearing was an IRS claim that Lear failed to abide by the strict terms of his probation which included the requirement that he file all his delinquent tax returns and pay all back taxes and penalties owed.
Just as the hearing before Judge Gordon Quist began, the DOJ attorneys moved to dismiss the IRS's probation violation claim against Lear that would have sent him back to prison.
Although Lear had filed his missing returns signing them “under duress” (which IRS does not allow) and failed to pay the taxes owing on those returns, Judge Quist signed an order, completely releasing Lear from federal custody. As of April 12th, Lear has been a free man.
An important question remains: Why? Why would the IRS and DOJ walk away from a golden opportunity to make headlines and send a convicted tax protester back to prison? (continued…)
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005-05-21.htm
Dear tweety:
Quote:But my point was this. How on Earth it is possible that under the same (identical) given circumstances (see above), a person born abroad to a one U.S. national parent can acquire nationality of a parent, while a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent (whether natural born or naturalized) can not aquire nationality of a parent. Isn't this discriminatory towards a U.S. citizen parent. And all that due to a lower “standards” required for U.S. national parent?Or, does Sec 1408 (4) and part “national, but a not citizen, of the United States who,” actually has something to do with a location of a parent at the time of a birth of a person born abroad, and as such reflects on a status of a parent.
There is a great deal of confusion (worth two trillion so-called tax dollars) regarding this topic, you must research this issue and come to your own conclusion. However, rattler14 gave you a number of areas to begin your quest, please use them.
Now to take a stab at your question:
1. U.S. national (and not a citizen) = citizen of a state (Pennsylvania Republic, Delaware Republic, ect.).
2. U.S. citizenship (federal (District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa)). This does not mean State!
3. 14th Amendment: One may maintain U.S. citizenship (federal (District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa)) and U.S. national (and not a citizen) = citizen of a state (Pennsylvania Republic, Delaware Republic, ect.).
I think that when the code you are referring to mentions a ?U.S. national (and not a citizen)?, it means a state citizen who may be alien to the federal United States (District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa).
Thus, a child born to a parent who is a citizen of a federal area, Puerto Rico for instance; that child may gain federal citizenship, yet, not a national (state) citizenship, the Virginia Republic for instance.
Then there is the 14th amendment to the THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION:
Quote:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.The above means that national may be a citizen of the federal United States if he/she is born or naturalized in such a jurisdiction, in other words, they can maintain a dual citizenship.
If one wants U.S. national citizenship, I believe that you may apply for this with the Secretary of State of the State Republic that you choose.
Quote:On the other hand, a person whose parent is only a U.S. national (and not a citizen), and who was physically present in United States for at least seven years can claim U.S. nationality!However, this (above) parent was born or naturalized in a State, and not subject to the federal jurisdiction. Although, under the 14th amendment, they could be if they were to become naturalized. Often the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and other government agencies seem to think that everyone is automatically subject to federal jurisdiction, this is not the case, due mainly to the separation of powers of the Constitution.
Quote:Originally posted by tweety:EDIT: I see that this topic has been viewed over 520 times in the last 24 hours…? If there is a page with a similar discussion and link to this topic, then post a link to that page
Please see this thread for more information:
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=450&hl=
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?sh…st=0&#entry1456
I hope this brings you a little closer to that which you seek.
FYI: Odd timing,
There is a well above normal traffic to the following areas:
VERY HIGH*
IRS hearings and court litigation
Republic v. Democracy
Rebutted version of the IRS ?The Truth About??
Federal jurisdiction (SILVER BULLET)
Nonresident Alien Position
861 Argument ?Some Observation
The Right to Petition Legal Forum
New research submittal
Strawman/Juristic Person Debate
Communism and socialism
RTP LAWSUIT: Public Awareness
HIGH*
?national? and ?state national&q?
Police state action
Federal Reserve System
Miscellaneous
Words of art
Master File (MF) Decoder Bug Reports (FOIA Contacts)
Guns Control (Guns back in fashion?)
Current events in the tax honesty movement (Former Judge?s Honest Comments)
God?s law v. Man?s law
Government and legal profession scams and propaganda
Jokes and humor (BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING)
Protest and political events
Feedback
Bad links
Church v. State
New research submittal
RTP LAWSUIT: General Forum
Seminars and educational events
Errata Reports (IRS address)
ABOVE NORMAL*
(?Voluntary? National ID Bill)
(FDA Approves VeriChip)
(Schiff looses again)
(Irwin Schiff?s Girlfriend)
(Waste of Time)
*These categories are based on my estimates of volume and may be subject to correction at any time, without notice.
Here is a little more nonsense.
9th Circuit Split on Grand Jury Nullification:
Quote:A closely divided en banc panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a constitutional challenge to federal grand jury instructions Monday, saying there's no need to tell jurors they're free to ignore the law.Writing for the 6-5 majority, Judge Jay Bybee said grand juries already have enough freedom and independence without a nullification instruction.
“We observe that the weight of U.S. history favors instructing the grand jury to follow the law without judging its wisdom,” Bybee wrote in U.S. v. Navarro-Vargas, 05 C.D.O.S. 4311.
“The prospect of a grand jury here and there deciding for itself that a law lacked 'wisdom' is an invitation to lawlessness and something less than the equal protection of the laws,” Bybee warned?
Here is a little good news from the We the People website:
Quote:Hard Evidence That Form 1040Has NO Legal Basis In Law
IRS Withdraws Criminal Allegation,
Tax Convict Walks Free
Although the People's war against the income tax fraud and IRS abuse has been lengthy and daunting and has left many freedom fighters across our nation battered and bankrupt, there are continuing signs that the tide of tyranny may finally be meeting effective resistance.
On April 12th 2005, William Wallace Lear of Muskegon Michigan appeared in federal District Court in Grand Rapids to face IRS charges claiming Lear had violated the terms of his probation. William Lear had served one year in a federal detention facility in Minnesota following his conviction in 2002 for Willful Failure to File income tax returns (a misdemeanor). His probation began in March, 2004.
The basis for the probation violation hearing was an IRS claim that Lear failed to abide by the strict terms of his probation which included the requirement that he file all his delinquent tax returns and pay all back taxes and penalties owed.
Just as the hearing before Judge Gordon Quist began, the DOJ attorneys moved to dismiss the IRS's probation violation claim against Lear that would have sent him back to prison.
Although Lear had filed his missing returns signing them ?under duress? (which IRS does not allow) and failed to pay the taxes owing on those returns, Judge Quist signed an order, completely releasing Lear from federal custody. As of April 12th, Lear has been a free man.
An important question remains: Why? Why would the IRS and DOJ walk away from a golden opportunity to make headlines and send a convicted tax protester back to prison? (continued…)
http://www.givemeliberty.org/RTPLawsuit/Update2005-05-21.htm
Dear Ichesson:
Quote:OK, so should one just simply file a 1040NR instaed of a 1040? Does one need to go through all the emancipation steps prior to using a 1040NR?Any possible ramifications using NR form instead of 1040?
As rattler14 states,
Quote:If it were me, I'd make sure to cover my bases and make sure everyone knew my correct citizenship status. You may not stop injustice from happening to you, but you'll at least make it harder for them to prosecute and a jury to convict you (in my humble opinion, obviously there are times when it won't make a lick of difference).As you can see from the 10th Circuit case below, it looks like the IRS is making it as hard as possible to claim a non-resident status. I think that a great deal of care must be taken to make it abundantly clear that you are a non-resident alien to the federal United States (the District of Columbia, and any federal possession such as Guam, etc.), and not an non-resident alien to the 50 states (national, I don't think that there is a clear definition in the tax code). It seems to me that the IRS may be trying to claim that anyone using the 1040NR form, or making any non-resident claim, is foreign to both the federal United States and the united states of America (the 50 states).
Of course I welcome any and all clarification on this confusing topic.
Quote:Defendant Ernest Glenn Ambort appeals his conviction and sentence following a jury trial on one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States by assisting in the preparation of false tax returns, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 371, and sixty-nine counts of aiding and assisting in the preparation of false federal tax returns, in violation of 26 U.S.C.?? 7206(2).? We affirm.BACKGROUND
We take the following facts from one of our prior opinions in this case:(1) The conspiracy count alleges that Defendants operated an organization known as “Association de Libertas” (ADL) that conducted “constitutional history seminars” throughout the United States.? It further alleges that ADL leaders falsely told the seminar attendees that they were “nonresident aliens” exempt from most federal income taxes.? For a fee of $1,500 to $1,600 for “forms training,” ADL instructors taught the attendees how to complete an amended return form (Form 1040X) and/or a nonresident alien income tax return form (Form 1040NR), falsely claiming a refund for past years' taxes.? In addition to the above fee, ADL also required one-third of any refund.? To ensure payment, the mailing address of an ADL instructor or “escrow agent” appeared on the amended returns.? The false return counts allege that the Defendants assisted in preparation of tax returns that were false and fraudulent as to a material matter, specifically classifying the taxpayers as nonresident aliens when the taxpayers were in fact residents of the United States subject to taxation and not entitled to the refunds claimed.
the 10th Circuit Ruling
http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/10th/034243.html
Here is the section regarding the “nonresident alien” issue, for your review:
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Instruct…nshipStatus.htm
WELCOME TO THE ILLEGAL EXTORTION DEFENSE COLLEGE! An overview
http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/OpeningPage.htm
Take care. :ph34r:
Wecome to the Family Guardian joquinn238:
I have been attacked by the Internal Revenue Service, and other so-called government agencies, on many levels. A practical solution that is working in my favor, for the moment, is that I have some latitude in my current job, and I untaxed myself for the time being (and all of those who want the option that I have control over). I treat them as independent contractors. However, I realize that few will have this opportunity.
I am under pressure from the head office for not signing certain quasi-government forms, which, until a couple of years ago, I use to submit without trouble, unsigned. Government at all levels is getting more aggressive, and mounting a more direct and open attack against those who resist.
Yes, the IRS is still trying to do all sorts of things to harass me, they have seized a bank account (a suit is in the works), regarding a another job that I had, the IRS sent a (unsigned) ?Notice of Levy? to the company for 100% of my earnings, since I would not sign their forms. Yes, I gave the company, company attorneys, accountants, and owners, much of the information found here. No they would not listen. One of the owners, whom I was friendly towards, said that he was too old to go to jail. The attorneys and the accountants just said nothing I submitted would work. They would not talk to me directly. It is funny because I would sometimes speak to them on other matters without a problem. The company was later sold, end of problem!
I feel your pain. I know how difficult it is to try to raise a family, work, try to digest all of this wonderful information, and find time to eat and sleep. Thus, I will offer a suggestion, even though I have not put all of it to use, ?Cracking the Code: The Fascinating Truth About Taxation In America?.
The information on this site is free; however, the site below will cost a few dollars to order the book.
You should be able to claim a refund from the IRS:
Quote:You can see that Congress was trying hard to make this simple. This section established that amounts withheld under the provisions of Chapter 24 (?employment? withholding) are claimable as overpayments?even when the amounts were withheld from someone with no associated tax liability, which is to say, a non-?taxpayer?. 6401 also precludes the barring of amounts withheld as tax under Chapter 21 (FICA taxes) from being treated as overpayments.?Obviously, anyone who has not received ?income? and is being lawfully dealt with by payers will have no need to use a 1040 for the claim of a refund, as nothing will have been withheld in the first place. However, with so many companies co-opted into the scheme, most are not so fortunate.
?In addition to filing a claim for refund on the appropriate form, it is necessary to rebut any erroneous allegations of ?income? paid which have been submitted by others, such as those complicit businesses mentioned above.?
http://www.losthorizons.com/Cracking_the_Code.htm
In addition, as you have stated, you will likely want to address your status:
Quote:I also read I need to expatriate and Declare my true status as an American National – Non-Resident Alien. And so on and so on.You may also try writing a to:
Mr. Mark W. Everson, Commissioner
Internal Revenue Service
1111 Constitution Ave. Room 3000
Washington, D.C. 20024
RE: Dispute of ?tax? obligation owed.
Send it certified mail
If Mr. Everson does not respond in 30 days (there is little chance that he will), write:
John Snow
U.S. Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20220
RE: I request a Refund of All Sums Taken from Me for ?taxes?
This is what I am in the process of doing currently (did I mention that I don?t like sighing IRS forms).
If any of this information works for you, please let me know.
Good luck. 😉
