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Sonik Speed wrote on Apr 20 2006, 04:44 PM:I am the wrong candidate to ask that particular question. Please consult with him and let me know. 🙂To tell you the truth, anything that comes out of his mouth is mere hearsay. There is NOTHING persuassive about him.
Sonik Speed
[post=”2657″][/post]The point is that you did not ask AndyK all of these questions. AndyK states that he is a taxpayer. Yet, you don't seem to have a problem with him being on this forum, in fact you invited him to come. I am sure that you were aware of his background.
If you are not going to harass everyone with these questions, please relent.
Thank you,
BOBT
I agree with you Mr. Martin. Keep up the good work.
Dear Sonik,
Is AndyK a taxpayer?
- Sonik Speed wrote on Apr 18 2006, 07:36 PM:KAOS THEORY!
I AM NOT PERSUADED BY THIS NATURE YOU ARE ACTING UPON. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE TAX HONESTY MOVEMENT, NOR DO I BELIEVE YOU ARE A NON-TAXPAYER
Sonik Speed
[post=”2637″][/post]What is your problem Sonik Speed? What has KAOS THEORY! done which requires such a response? Who appointed you HARDBALL CONSTABLE? What hoops must someone jump through in order to make it into your good graces?
Recently, you invited AndyK (a known IRS employee) to debate on this forum. Here's an idea, why not allow any who want speak the chance to do so, as long as they are not in violation of the forum's rules? If KT, or others, has violated the forum's rules, please point it out, so that he can come into compliance. Otherwise, please start attacking issues, not individuals!
BOBT
Author #2, thank you very much for amazing analyzes of the IRS, courts, and the government in general.
Good bye, AndyK, it was good while it lasted. :ph34r:
- 'confused43' wrote on 'Apr:Maybe someone can help clear this up for me.
I am a contractor in Ca. I have a contractor's license.? I recieve misc 1099's.? Since I have fallen into their trap, e.g filled out w-8's, have an ein number, etc………I have become a public office, uh?
I haven't filed in 4 years, just now recieveed the assessment letter.? The more research I do, the more I think I'm doomed.
confused
[post=”2625″][/post]Look at your letter, your assessment letter, is likely a Proposed Assessment letter. You should respond within 90 days. the 1099s are not signed under penalty of perjury, therefore, your statment, signed under penalty of perjury, should rebut any claim that the IRS think that it has over your earnings.
The code states that those who are “liable” must pay the tax. How do you determine if you are “liable”? The code says that the Secretary must assess a tax, signed under penalty of perjury, have you recieved an tax assessment lately? I have never received a personal tax assessment in my life. However, I have received a proposed assessment, and if you don't respond to this notice in 90 days, the IRS will assume that you agree to this assessment. The IRS will try to get you to go to Tax Court as the plaintiff, you are then considered guilty until you can prove otherwise, you will likely lose.
Otherwise an individual may assess himself/herself, by signing a form (mostly the 1040) under penalty of perjury. Have you done this recently, are you about to? If you do, then you have volunteered to pay the tax. If you did not sign 1040 you are in a stronger position to rebut IRS claims.
Unofficial proposed assesment, why doesn't Mark Everson, IRS Commissioner; or the IRS's attorneys, or employees sign the documents under penalty of Perjury to make them official?
Quote:United States CodeTITLE 26 – INTERNAL REVENUE CODE
SUBTITLE F – PROCEDURE AND ADMINISTRATION
CHAPTER 61 – INFORMATION AND RETURNS
SUBCHAPTER A – RETURNS AND RECORDS
PART IV – SIGNING AND VERIFYING OF RETURNS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS
U.S. Code as of: 01/22/02
Section 6065. Verification of returns
Except as otherwise provided by the Secretary, any return,
declaration, statement, or other document required to be made under
any provision of the internal revenue laws or regulations shall
contain or be verified by a written declaration that it is made
under the penalties of perjury.
Emphasis added.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_s…tle=26&sec=6065
Check here for more information:
Rebutted version of the IRS “The Truth About incorrect Tax Arguments”
http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showforum=19
Oh, you have been told that you must volunteer, or else? I know that I have been told this. This is where the fraud, threats, duress, and coercion (TDC) come into action.
look around this website for more information, before you make your final response. Check the W-8 out further. Of course these are just a few ideas to give you aid in your situation. Please review the great thread Dept. of Justice will NOT pursue. Perhaps others will help.
Welcome to forum.
- Albert Martin wrote on Apr 17 2006, 04:24 PM:Well, I haven't filed a 1040 in 13 years. It seams that I can't get past the page in the 1040 instruction booklet that is titled “FILING REQUIREMENTS” You see it's like this. The reader is instructed to use chart A B or C to see if you must file, so I start with chart A because at the top of the chart it says FOR MOST PEOPLE. Well that sounds pretty much like me sooooo. Anyway At the bottom of chart “A” I read the deffinition of “GROSS INCOME” and it says gross income is all income you revieved in the form of money, property, goods, and sevices that is NOT EXEMPT from tax. Well I have to stop right there and check the list of income that is NOT EXEMPT from tax. There is only one list in all of subtitle “A” and it is found at 26 CFR 1.861-8T. Well after 13 years they still haven't included my income in that list and no matter how hard I try I can't find anything in the Code That says my income is NOT EXEMPT from tax. And sice I have to follow the instructions in the 1040 instruction booklet there's nothing else I can do. Soooooooooo… I guess I'll just have to spend all of my pay on food, clothing, shelter, utilities, gas, and entertainment again this year. A fella's got to live you know.[post=”2622″][/post]
Very sweet. Keep up the good work.
By the way, I haven't filled in about eight or nine years.
- Bing wrote on Apr 13 2006, 01:11 PM:That said, his Cracking The Code book is still GREAT!!!! 🙂
Bing
[post=”2580″][/post]I am glad to see that you agree. 🙂
- lchesson wrote on Apr 13 2006, 10:28 AM:A cursory reading of this article would not raise any red flags for those that believe taxable income is any and all property from any and all sources. IRS minions love this kind of stuff. However, when one understands the MO of both the press and the IRS, it is easy to put into perspective.
The story begins …” to turn over information about people who might be evading taxes…” (emphasis added)
Then compare how people that 'might' be evading to the story's title – “Tax dodgers may lose friend in PayPal”. Therefore, if you have a Paypal account, you 'might' be evading taxes, therefore you are a 'tax dodger'. Simply amazing isn't it?
PayPal admits to receiving a summons, but twice the article states that the IRS has been given permission to ask. If they are only asking, Paypal can simply say “no”.Â
Whenever I see the term 'IRS' in the public media, I suspect it's a 50/50 mix of lies and propaganda. Once again the IRS makes it quite clear that they should NEVER be trusted.
[post=”2578″][/post]I cannot agree more. Thanks lchesson.
That is quite a post you have Mr. Bing. Sadly, I find myself in agreement with your outlook. Yet, I pray that the terrible events, wider war, martial law, etc., can be averted.
- freeadon wrote on Apr 8 2006, 07:46 PM:Author #2 wrote on May 6 2005, 08:10 PM:BobT12 and JWR,
Thanks for the show of moral support, guys!? I'm glad to finally have the opportunity for formal and exhaustive legal discovery.? Everything I compile by depositioning the liars who are participating in this persecution will be posted up on Family Guardian for all to read and reuse.? I'm really looking forward to running them through all the IRS Deposition Questions, and offering them a chance to rebut anything on the site on the record with a court reporter present.? I already attempted to do that in the friendly meeting on 7/10/03, but they ducked out and have been operating in bad faith ever since then.? They are going to dig a deep hole for themselves. Maybe We The People will finally thereby get the answers their Petition for Redress of Greivances on the record from people who backed themselves into a discovery corner by slandering my reputation with absolute lies that are completely unsupported by any evidence whatsoever.
Author #2
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Hello Hansen thank God for you and this website. I have just come across it. I will be praying for you continually and will join and donate. God bless freeadon.
[post=”2544″][/post]I want to take this opportunity to welcome you to the forum. Of course, I agree with your statements.
- Albert Martin wrote on Apr 4 2006, 02:39 AM:It was 1981 when I first became aware of the governments tax lies thanks to Irwin. Ever since then I eat ,sleep, bath, dress, work, walk and talk almost nothing but INCOME TAXES. I have been oustracized by many of my extended family. I am very proud of my wife and daughters though. They have always stood by me even in the face of IRS terror. Now My grand children are still very young but they are growing up and guess what they are going to learn from me?
So Irwin your efforts are reveberating through many generations. You have not fought in vain!
[post=”2507″][/post]I agree with you. Irwin is not suffering in vain!
His unjust imprisonment at the hands of the IRS, DOJ, et al., only toughens my resolve to resist this tyranny of the two trillion dollar beast. I am sure that many others feel the same.
Where are you AndyK?
Do you have any more information to share with this forum, or is your lack of response your final answer?
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your superb account regarding your dealings with the IRS.
Thanks for that wonderful analysis Bing.
