911Truth.org Urges 2006 Reform Candidates to Recognize a Powerful New Constituency

The poll is the first scientific survey of Americans' belief in a 9/11 cover up or the need to investigate possible US government complicity, and was commissioned to inform deliberations at the June 2~4 “9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future” conference in Chicago. Poll results indicate 42% believe there has indeed been a cover up (with 10% unsure) and 45% think “Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success” (with 8% unsure). The poll of American residents was conducted from Friday, May 12 through Tuesday, May 16, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/- 2.9. All inquiries about questions, responses and demographics should be directed to Zogby International.

According to Janice Matthews, executive director of 911truth.org, “To those who have followed the mounting evidence for US government involvement in 9/11, these results are both heartening and frankly quite amazing, given the mainstream media's ongoing refusal to cover the most critical questions of that day. Our August 2004 Zogby poll of New Yorkers showed nearly half believe certain US officials 'consciously' allowed the attacks to happen and 66% want a fresh investigation, but these were people closest to the tragedy and most familiar with facts refuting the official account. This revelation that so many millions nationwide now also recognize a 9/11 cover up and the need for a new inquiry should be a wake up call for all 2006 political candidates hoping to turn this country around. We think it also indicates Americans are awakening to the larger pattern of deceit that led us into Constitutional twilight and endless war, and that our independent media may have finally come of age.”

Poll co-author, W. David Kubiak concurs, saying: “Despite years of relentless media promotion, whitewash and 9/11 Commission propaganda, the official 9/11 story still can't even muster 50% popular support. Since this myth has been the administration's primary source of political and war-making power, this level of distrust has revolutionary implications for everyone working for peace, justice and civil liberties. If we ever hope to reclaim this country, end aggression and restore international respect, we all must finally scrutinize that day when things started to go so terribly wrong. The media and movement leaders ignore this call at their peril, because tens of millions are clearly telling us here they are ready for 9/11 truth.”

One result of this, is that all of his legal arguements were for naught because like a hamster on an excercise wheel, Irwin was merely running in place and was NOT advancing or making inroads in proving his case. He should have known better.

Even still, Judge Dawson's machinations in Irwin's recent trial shocks the conscience. Ahhh, but justice has a way of working things out in the end.

Sadly, Irwin was sentenced to a maximum security federal penitentiary. Which is outrageous!! He is almost 80 years old and is no threat to society.? Cleary, the USG is being punitive and trying to scare those of us in the THM, but we remain unbowed by Irwin's sad plight.

Yes, it is true that some of Irwin's arguments were legally flawed, but gosh darn, the guy has huge cajones to do what he has done, and to stand his ground for 30 years against the powerful, yet incredibly corrupt IRS and DOJ.?

We can not and will stand down simply because the corrupt IRS and the liars at the DOJ, continue to attack innocent American Citizens and strip them of their personal liberty.

Sadly, it is doubtful that Irwin will survive prison. But we must carry on and go forward, knowing that both the Truth and God are on our side.

We shall never, never, never, give up! NEVER!

Bing

1. Do not call anyone names (curses)

2. Respect others religious beliefs

3. Do not post pornography

4. Do not threaten anyone

5. Rebut anyone (but have reason and citation behind it)

6. Respect the Constitution

7. Offer your opinion (through facts)

You are offering me to come over to Quatloos. I am not responding to this offer. Therefore, I invite you to come over to this website and bring along a few friends or advocates that agree with most of your conclusions and let us altogether argue constructively and intelligently. You will not find any Sui Juris “outliers” here. Let us debate. Bring the top 5 posters from Quatloos and we will collect our top 5 posters from Family Guardian. If you do not want to do a 5 vs 5, then just come yourself.

SONIK SPEED'S PROMISE TO ANDY K IS AS FOLLOWS: You will be treated with respect here in this Forum. If I see that you do not, then I will defend you in this forum. If anyone attempts to “amend” or “edit” your comments (which they do not, provided that you stick to the above rules), I, Sonik Speed, will protest the Family Guardian myself.

I am very disappointed in your abuse of this forum. You are using it as a means of propaganda instead of education. You are trying to scare the readers away from the use of corrected information returns without addressing the facts or law supporting their or your position. This is supposed to be a mock court, not another slanted media outlet for whores of the IRS. You are going to answer the questions at the end of The Trade or business Scam article below for all to read, or you will be banned from this topic and your posts will be removed. We will have “due process” (only full FACTS and LAW) in this topic or you won't participate.

http://sedm.org/Forms/05-MemLaw/TradeOrBusScam.pdf

My answers to all the questions in the above is ADMIT. I'm not asking you to do anything that I haven't therefore done. Your Constitutional duty as an IRS employee and a “public SERVANT” is to know, answer to, and obey the law so that you can fulfill your oath to support and defend the sovereign, which is We The People. Your first duty is to the PUBLIC, who you serve, and not to the courts, your pocket book or your retirement or your bosses next pay raise. Good luck finding caselaw supporting anything other than ADMIT, because there isn't any that I have been able to find. If all the ANSWERS are admit, then you and your employer are engaging in acts of terrorism, political persecution, persecution for political speech, and involving the courts in political questions that they have no business pursuing.

The fact of the matter is, that the reason the IRS gets away with the violation of the CONstitution, enacted law, and compels people to associate with a corrupted government (in violation of the First Amendment) and using fraudulent information returns filed by ignorant people who are too stupid to even know they are violating the law against innocent Americans is because of silence and omission, a failure to recognize the limits of the law on their authority, and total lack of accountability to the public, who they are supposed to be serving. I allege that you and your employer look the other way with the blessings of a corrupted judiciary because the plunder is flowing into your checking account and bloated federal retirement. I'm asking you to prove otherwise by answering the questions, so as to maintain your credibility as a “public servant”. Your behavior in this forum is demonstrating more of these same sins as your employer, the IRS, and we can't condone or allow it:

1. Refusing to address the facts and law on this subject.

2. Appealing to the fear, ignorance and presumption of the masses on this subject.

3. Demonstrating that your agency (the IRS) has no respect for law or desire to address the requirements it places upon your authority as an IRS employee.

4. Resorting to false presumption instead of facts and law, in violation of due process. See:

http://sedm.org/Forms/05-MemLaw/Presumption.pdf

You can post your answers to the above in this topic, and they will also need to email a signed version of them (sign the end) to submissions(AT)famguardian.org so that they can be posted for all to read. Otherwise, please quit abusing fear, ignorance, presumption, and political propaganda disguised as “legal process” to your own personal financial benefit in violation of 18 USC 208.

You have one week to answer the quesitons and submit your answers to the email above. After that, all of your posts to this topic (but not this forum) will be deleted if we receive no answers. Accountable government, including accountability to the requirements of the law, is a MANDATE of the Constitution and this forum, and YOU are going to demonstrate your commitment to that or be banned from this topic.

If the IRS isn't ALSO going to prosecute the following types of abuses as well, then it is violating the requirement for equal protection:

1. Prosecuting those who file the false information returns (not CORRECTED, but the ORIGINALS) to begin with under 26 U.S.C. 7434.

2. Using information returns not signed under penalty of perjury as evidence. Information returns not signed under penalty of perjury, such as 1099, 1098, and 1042-S may not be used as a basis for doing a Substitute for Return because they are hearsay evidence not admissible under the Federal Rules of Evidence, Rule 802.

3. Filing of Substitute for Returns without an assessment signed under penalty of perjury by an assessment officer pursuant to 26 USC 6065. This is a violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and 26 U.S.C. 6020. The U.S. Supreme Court said that taxes are “debts”, which therefore subjects themn to the same standards as other debts. See Milwaukee v. White, 296 U.S 268 (1935). The assessment must indicate the specific individual liable. The RACS 006 doesn't meet this critera and IRS positively refuses to provide the 23C which might do this as well. Neither is the 4340 signed under penalty of perjury, and it is signed based on electronic assessment information that is not signed or authenticated under penalty of perjury at the time of assessment either.

4. Redacting information from TXMOD reports about employees who did the assessments.

5. Playing “ricochet rabbit” with FOIA requests for assessment documents, so the perpetrators of illegal assessments can be sued as they deserve. See IRM 11.3.13.9.4:

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/CitesByT…essmentCert.htm

6. Posting unsubstantiated hearsay evidence on their website not signed or authenticated by the author, such as their propaganda piece “The Truth About incorrect Arguments”. Please explain how ANYTHING can be identified as truth in a court of law if the witness positively refuses to take responsibility for it, sign it, put his seal on it, or take an oath about its truthfulness? When is Mr. Kolb of the IRS Chief Counsels' Office going to take just as much PERSONAL responsibility and personal liability for the accuracy of that piece as we have to take when we submit a tax return by signing it under penalty of perjury?

7. Ignoring or destroying correspondence from persons that clearly proves illegal enforcement, and then using a commercial default process against them to destroy their lives. Sounds like “guilty until proven innocent” to me.

When is the IRS going to discipline ITS OWN EMPLOYEES for doing the above? We, on the one hand, must sign everything we send to the government under penalty of perjury. The government, on the other hand, isn't required to sign ANYTHING and there isn't even one single individual in the government who is required to take personal responsibility for DESTROYING people's lives by signing their illegal SFRs under penalty of perjury. This removes any recourse in the courts, because no one can be personally held liable for malfeasance or misfeasance where you work. Equal protection DEMANDs equal accountability.

These offenses are far worse that filing of corrections to fraudulent information returns filed by ignorant clerks who don't read or follow the law and who are violating 26 U.S.C. 7434. Indirectly, what IRS is trying to do is remove the only method available to correct the affects of what amounts to compelled association and fraud by trying to prosecute people who don't want hearsay evidence to be used to compel them to become “taxpayers”, even though they are not engaged in a “trade or business”. Is there something wrong with this?

AndyK was also served via a private message with the above post. This consitutes “service of process” for discovery within this mock court.

Ok first off, I want to welcome you here to Family Guardian. Honestly I really thought you would not come here. You certainly disproved me on this issue and you made an electrifying entrance. It has been a long time since you have posted in here. But, welcome nonethless… I offered a 5 on 5 debate and you stated:

ANDY: Since everyone at Quatloos thinks for him or her self, I can't assemble a team to debate you.

SONIK:I understand. It is ok – no big deal.

It seems that there is no limit to the rotten dity tricks they have up their sleeves.

An example of this is Mr. Apostle and Mr. Lambskin.

Sonik Speed

Yesterday freeindeed and I were at a meeting in our area and spoke with a lady that has been fighting a tax lien now for about 2 years. She originally had them removed by a state “judge” where the notice of liens were recorded. The IRS had a federal “judge” come in and reinstate the liens. The IRS and the federal government have no jurisdiction to do this and under statute the state has exclusive jurisdiction in the matter. A suit was filed in federal court on the issue and the court dissmissed for lack of jurisdiction. When the issue was taken back to the state court the lady was told by the clerk of court she had to go to federal court and that they had jurisdiction. She was getting the runaround. Well long story short, she provided the proof that the state court has exclusive jurisdiction in the matter because the county has possession of the notice of lien. She told us the state “judge” she spoke with told her that in all his thirty years of being in “law” this is the first time he has ever been shown this and said she was absolutely correct. Yeah right, he knew and was just protecting the feds. He then asked her if she had proof that the IRS had been served because there was nothing in the record. She has the documentation and showed it to us and she now has 60 days to have it provided to the court. The court file has been tampered with and now she has to have the county sherrif's office reestablish the court record.

This is the kind of fraud that happens all the time. Notice of Liens are no liens at all and is based on nothing but fraud. It is just a small piece of it. You will find reference to this in another thread that freeindeed posted “Remove Tax Liens.” Have fun in your research.