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I freely concede that in all likelihood, Larken probably did not get a fair trial.
Be that as it may, I have lost all respect for Larken, and I would not give him one penny.
Through his sheer arrogance, Larken has put himself and his family in the position that he is in.
See
http://www.macon.com/mld/inquirer/news/loc…ia/13239195.htm
LARKEN ROSE SOLD OUT!!!
Larken received about $500,000 over a five year period for his real work in a medical transcription business and he lives in an upper class suburb of Philly. So, I shed no tears for Larken or his wife.
That Larken is now begging for money from the very same people that he betrayed, is disingenuous at best.
And that LARKEN continues to suffer from delusions of grandeur, in the false hope that his 6000+ email subscribers will give his wife Tessa $250 each, is laughable. 😆
Finally, Larken's own arrogance in failing to grow and learn standing US Supreme Court decisions, Constitutional law, 26 CFR and the IRC, beyond just the simplistic 861 Source Argument, was the seed of his own downfall.
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But if you click on the url in my lead post, it appears that it is a FG cite or some type of FG DVD or something.
Also, if your use the search utility on FG, and type in the Sup.Ct case name, you get 3 hits on FG, one of which I listed above.
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The following url is inoperable.
http://famguardian.org/CDs/IRSCD/Authorities/IRSMEMO.DOC.
Bing
The real key is Section 7, B ) 2) A) B ) C )and D ), which asserts that:
“B ) Certification Requirement- No prosecution of any offense described in this subsection may be undertaken by the United States, except under the certification in writing of the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General, or any Assistant Attorney General specially designated by the Attorney General that–“
“(1) he or she has reasonable cause to believe that the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person was a motivating factor underlying the alleged conduct of the defendant; and”
“(2) he or his designee or she or her designee has consulted with State or local law enforcement officials regarding the prosecution and determined that–“
“A ) the State does not have jurisdiction or does not intend to exercise jurisdiction;”
“B ) the State has requested that the Federal Government assume jurisdiction;”
“C ) the State does not object to the Federal Government assuming jurisdiction; or”
“D ) the verdict or sentence obtained pursuant to State charges left demonstratively unvindicated the Federal interest in eradicating bias-motivated violence.”
I can tell you right now, Bruce, and you can tell your Reverend friend, that HR2662, is, from a legal standpoint, only enforceable for crimes committed on land that has been lawfully ceded to the federal government.
That's it. So don't get your panties in a bunch. At least not yet.
A sovereign state CAN NOT simply “ask” the federal government to simply “assume jurisdiction.” Constitutional Law does not work like that. Unfortunately, the very corrupted federal and state governments DO operate like that.
When Congress legislates, it is presumed that they know what their Constitutional Authority is, and what is the impact of prior US Supreme Court decisions upon any proposed legislation.
The federal government does NOT obtain lawful jurisidction over a crime committed within the territory of a Union state, merely because a “state” does not object to the federal government assuming said jurisdiction. Such thinking is wrong-headed, legally and factually incorrect, and pure nonsense.
That said, I also noticed that the proposed Act did not legally define the term “State”. So, I presume one must look to another Section of some other US Code Title, in order to see how “State” is defined.
One thing is clear, it is doubtful that “State” means “state”.
Which means that once again, the corrupt US Congress is in a STATE of confusion.
Bing 😡
And the Jury requested to be given Cindy's Neun's dog eared copy of the IRC but the Judge denied their request, saying that giving the jury the tax code would be “problematic.”
I predict Irwin, Cindy et al will be acquitted of all charges.
Bing
- lambskin wrote on Oct 19 2005, 03:17 PM:Bing,
Had the meeting. 50 showed and went home educated and wiser. No takers from this forum. I wonder why. Too bad, could've done 'em a lot of good.
Grace and peace
Lambskin
[post=”1878″][/post]Bing's REPLY:
Now that is impressive. I am confused though. I mean, I know for a fact that planning and organizing a conference takes considerarble TIME and effort. Yet, amazingly, you seemed to have pulled it off and had EXACTLY 50 people show up from all over the country, and you did all of this in a matter of just a few weeks?? Boy, Lambchop, maybe you should be an event planner.
Lamby, sir, I am skeptical and I do not think that you had any such conference.
And there are many reasons why I doubt you.
First, although you have been kind to post url links to 4 year old articles, in a concerted effort, no doubt, to try and convince this Forum that you are a bona fide “contributing member”, and you want us to believe that you are a dedicated, loyal Freedom loving American, I find it very odd that for reasons unexplained, despite your stated desire to share information and knowledge with the members of this Forum as articulated in your very first post, strangely, you have concluded that it is not in your best interests to share with this Forum, the Agenda from your so-called Freedom Conference, who the Speakers were, when it was held, where it was held, what topics were addressed, and the results of the Meeting.
All of these actions on your part, or shall I say “non-actions”, and your LACK of SHARING, lend further credence to my assertion that YOU ARE AN IRS UNDERCOVER AGENT and you are present in this Forum under false pretenses.
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lambskin wrote on Oct 19 2005, 03:17 PM:As for IRS, haven't paid 'em a cent in over 7 yearsGrace and peace
Lambskin
[post=”1878″][/post]Bing's REPLY:
No, I will bet that you have not paid them a cent in over 7 years. You have paid them far in excess of 1 cent. Hence, your post is technically truthful even though it was purposefully misleading.
Permit me to deconstruct your assertion. I think your language here shows that you are being deceptive. I mean, why say “in over 7 years”? Are you suggesting it was 7 years and 4 months? 7 years and 8 months. 7 years and 11 months and 27 days? What?
If you were truthful, you would simply have asserted that you haven't paid them in 7 years. Or you haven't paid the IRS in 7 or 8 years. Or you would say you haven't paid the IRS since 1997.
It is almost as if you arbitrarly choose “in over 7 years”, as a way to try and express your displeasure with the IRS and trying to bond with this forum, while stopping short of actually not directly attacking the IRS.
Okay Lamby, if you are telling the truth, and you have not paid the IRS in over 7 years, tell us, what method and approach did you use to lawfully stop paying income taxes?
That is a legitimate inquiry and I am giving you the chance to explain to us what worked for you. Which regulations and US SUPREME Ct opinions did you rely upon?
I mean, surely you, who purports in your 14 posts, to want to help others, can educate the members of this Forum by sharing your approach as to how you stopped paying the IRS income taxes.
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lambskin wrote on Oct 19 2005, 03:17 PM:and as for the religious thing, write me an email and I'll show ya all of Gods' love that ya want.Grace and peace
Lambskin
[post=”1878″][/post]Bing's REPLY:
Ah-ha! Now, if I wrote you an email, you would be able to determine my location, right? So, if I have repeatedly told you that I am convinced that you ARE AN IRS UNDERCOVER AGENT, why in the world do you think I would be stupid enough to write you an email?
Since I joined this Forum, every now and then I get Private Messages(PM) from unknown folks who tell me about a supposed problem that they or “their friend” is having with the IRS, and then they plead with me to write them an email. And you know what. I never reply via email.
Instead, I write them a PM and I don't give them any real info about me, but I do try and address and solve their problem while also stating that I am not an attorney. And I strongly suggest that they join the ministry at sedm.org. And I suggest that they make a donation to sedm.org.
Now, most of us here know that sedm.org has an awesome bunch of great material that one can use as part of their self-education. So, you would think that the folks who wrote me those PMs, would at least have the kindness to thank me for referring them to sedm.org.
And guess what? Not a single one of these guys has ever replied to my PM and said so much as “thanks”. Normal people, those who are NOT IRS undercover agents, would not be so rude. And I have never received a single follow-up PM. Ain't that strange??
A few years back, when I used to post and argue with the IRS undercover agents who post at http://www.quatloos.com, I would only do so from a library, not my home. And you know what, DEMOSTHENES, the lead anti-USA Constitutionalist at quatloss.com, let it be known in one of her posts, and suggested to me that I visit a nearby Performing Arts Center. This was her way of telling me that she had access to and reviewed the quatloos.com server logs.
Mind you, many months prior, she publicly denied being an IRS employee and denied being affiliated with or working for quatloos.com.
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lambskin wrote on Oct 19 2005, 03:17 PM:Bing, you're invited. Take it or leave it but I'm not gonna discuss this with you here because I believe we've been asked not to do so.[post=”1878″][/post]Bing's REPLY:
Invited to do what exactly? Write you an email?
Believe me, I have already taken plenty from you by deconstructing your posts and outing you as an IRS UNDERCOVER AGENT. Which is exactly what you are.
Most of the registered members of this Forum do not post. So, it is my responsibility to warn everyone about you. And I shall.
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lambskin wrote on Oct 19 2005, 03:17 PM:If I were an IRS agent I don't think I'd waste my time trying to scrounge out a mere pittance from a small percentage of the people in this forum, which you've admitted yourself is statistically all that anyone would be able to muster,Grace and peace
Lambskin
[post=”1878″][/post]Bing's REPLY:
Lamby, you need to hone your undercover skills in the art of deflecting and framing.
Sir, I never suggested that your role as an IRS undercover agent was to infiltrate this Forum for the purposes of collecting $$$ in back taxes. No ma'am.
Something far more valuable to the IRS, are our locations and our identities. And that is why you showed up here. And that is your primary IRS mandated mission and you know it and I know.
It is asnine and ludicrous of you to even suggest that you joined this Forum to try and help the IRS collect back taxes. Your efforts at using such a “distraction ploy” missed the mark. And you said that you possessed “wisdom and discernment”, sheesh!!!
Lambskin, your IDENTITY as an IRS UNDERCOVER AGENT has been blown.
Therefore, your effectiveness here is greatly diminished.
You are in a tight spot, because if you disappear, it will prove I was right. And if you stay around, and keep posting, I will deconstruct your posts and point out to the Forum Members, the internal contradictions, like, for example, the fact that you have not shared with the Forum any info whatsoever about your alleged Freedom Conference, which was the subject of your initial posts here last month. And that your obvious LACK OF SHARING completely contradicts your own words and posts about how you want people to come together and share info.
Hmmmmm.
Tell us something, how much longer do you think we will have to wait BEFORE you actually post a substantive Anti-IRS post?
You spout on about “sharing” but the truth is, you have not shared with this Forum how you allegedly stopped paying income taxes to the IRS. Nor have you shared with us the topics allegedly discussed at your so-called Freedom Conference in which 50 people attended?
Lamchop, sir, how do you reconcile and explain your lack of sharing any real info, with your posts in which you encourage everyone at this Forum to share their experiences and info?
I perceive an incongruency and a disconnect that leads me to believe that you are an IRS undercover Agent.
Lamby, your actions and your inactions, speak FAR LOUDER than your posts.
Grace & Peace back at ya,
Signed Your Pal,
Bing 😀
Author #2,
I think it is worth pointing out as well, that with respect to 26 CFR ? 31.3401(a)(6)-1 b]. Remuneration for services performed outside the United States. Remuneration paid to a nonresident alien individual (other than a resident of Puerto Rico) for services performed outside the United States is excepted from wages and hence is not subject to withholding.”
In other words, if you get a payment for services performed outside the United States, then it must mean that it was earned for services performed that were UNRELATED to the performance of the functions of a public office(i.e. not in the course of a trade or business).
Why?
Because when one is paid for the performance of the functions of a public office, one MUST be inside the federal zone when performing said public office functions.
Note that the regulation cited above makes it very clear and it is also IMPLIED that when one performs services outside the “federal” United States, then that means that the individual CAN NOT BE engaged in a “trade or business” (i.e. the performance of the functions of a public office within the US Government) since they are outside the federal zone.
Further, I believe 26 CFR ? 31.3401(a)(6)-1 (b.) tellingly reveals the limited geographical jurisdiction of the person engaged in the trade or business (i.e. the performance by the US Government Employee in their duties in their public office) to be confined ONLY within the federal United States.
Since a “trade or business”, as defined by the IRC means ONLY the performance of the functions of a public office, one can only perform and be engaged in a trade or business, while physically inside the federal zone, such as inside Washington, DC.
By extension, applying this logic further, US Government Officials have no authority to do anything inside the fifty states on non-federal land, because when they step outside the federal zone, by default they can not be engaged in a trade or business on behalf of the U.S. Government. One can only be engaged in the performance of the functions of a public office while within the federal zone.
And we also know that the seat of the US Government is located in Washington, DC.
If it were permissable by Congressional Rules, it is possible that a US Senator could be paid for teaching a college course at a private college, and the stipend paid to him for teaching, technically would be non-taxable under the IRC and Regs, because the course taught would be a private contract unrelated to his performance of his public office. In other words, the remuneration paid for teaching WOULD NOT BE effectively connected income related to the performance of a “trade or business”.
The course being taught would be taught outside of the federal United States and by definition, it therefore must be unrelated to his performance of a trade or business (i.e. his public office).
By definition, the functions of a public office (i.e. a trade or business) must always occur within the geographic confines of the federal zone.
However, in a further attempt to trap unsuspecting American Citizens, the IRS OFFERS one the option of treating all of their earnings that were earned OUTSIDE of the federal United States, to be treated and taxed as if it were “effectively connected” to a trade or business INSIDE the federal U.S.
Ta-da!!
The “trade or business” scam completely trumps Larken's 861 arguement and very nicely peels away the legal obfuscation foisted upon America by the corrupt politicians in the US Congress and the equally corrupt IRS.
Bing
C'mon, Lambchop, will ya hurry up and finish typing your reply. 😎
Here is another prediction, I predict that Lambchop will issue a reply post, within the next 20 minutes of this here post.
Bing
Authro #2 & Everyone,
I am pretty sure I made a mistake and a misstatement in my lead post in this thread.
I was confused about CASH Remuneration and Non cash remuneration.
26 CFR ?31.3401(a) (11)-1 which I cited in my lead post, deals ONLY with NON-CASH remuneration. So, as I read it now, it DOES NOT apply to a worker's regular paycheck.
I will now try and explain.
Even though I re-read the cite at 26 CFR ?31.3401(a) (11)-1 at least 10 times before I posted, I now believe that it was referring to only non-cash remuneration, such as food, lodging, use of a company vehicle, etc.
I misread it. Sorry.
However, my lead post is still accurate with respect to the notion that such non-cash payments ARE EXempt from withholding if such payements ARE NOT MADE IN THE COURSE OF THE EMPLOYER'S trade or business. Which means, if such payments are made to persons who are not serving in a public office i.e. employed with the US Government or the District of Columbia.
In any case, as most here know, the IRC defines “non-resident alien” to mean someone who is not a “resident alien”.
Ergo, all American Citizens born and living inside the 50 states, are in fact, non-resident aliens with respect to the federal United States, which is Washington, D.C. and the federal enclaves.
So, if one is trying to stop employer withholding of Subtitles A & C income Taxes, one should be citing part (b ), of this federal regulation, to help prove their position:
? 31.3401(a)(6)-1 Remuneration for services of nonresident alien individuals.
(a) In general. All remuneration paid after December 31, 1966, for services performed by a nonresident alien individual, if such remuneration otherwise constitutes wages within the meaning of ?31.3401(a)?1 and if such remuneration is effectively connected with the conduct of a trade or business within the United States, is subject to withholding under section 3402 unless excepted from wages under this section. In regard to wages paid under this section after February 28, 1979, the term ?nonresident alien individual? does not include a nonresident alien individual treated as a resident under section 6013 (g) or (h).
b. Remuneration for services performed outside the United States. Remuneration paid to a nonresident alien individual (other than a resident of Puerto Rico) for services performed outside the United States is excepted from wages and hence is not subject to withholding.
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? 31.3401(a)(6)-1 is EXTREMELY important and is the section that should be cited if you are trying to stop withholding with a private sector employer.
But first, one must cite the IRC to prove that they are NOT a resident alien.
I cited (a) in this post, so you all could see that EVERY non-resident alien has the option of choosing to treat his earnings as having been received as if he were a resident alien. Remember, if one is a resident alien in the United States, then that means that you are here merely because the USG has given you permission to be here, as opposed to being born in the USA and being entitled to be in the USA or the federal US.
As I understand it, a non-resident alien living on non-federal land in Maryland, can work in the District of Columbia for a private sector firm, and lawfully not owe any income taxes because their remuneration WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVELY connected with the conduct of a “trade or business” i.e the performance of the functions of a public office.
I hope that the above is clearer.
This post is not legal advice and I am not an attorney. If you want legal advice you should consult a licensed attorney.
If anyone, including Lambchop, sees mistakes or flaws in my logic and my posts in this thread, please let me know.
Thanks.
Bing
- rattler14 wrote on Oct 17 2005, 05:00 PM:Bing.? You seem like your holding back.? Come on…? how do you REALLY feel?? 🙂
cheers
[post=”1867″][/post]LMAO!!!! 😀 😆 😆
Umm, I “feel” as if Lambchop is an IRS undercover agent whose mission was to troll the famguardian.org cyber Forum/Discussion Board, to see if he can become close friends and a confidant with some of the Forum regulars, such as that Sonik Speed guy.
When it comes to identifying folks, I have a very keen sense and a very keen awareness of human nature.
Why, one time, I attended a public meeting with 500 others, and I was able to identify someone who I only knew via a Forum on the Web, merely based on the fact that they stood up in a crowd of 500 strangers, and quoted a certain US Supreme Court case with conviction. And I recall thinking to myself, 'I will bet that that is so-and-so'.
So, at the break, I went up to this guy and said, “Are you so-and-so?” – – and he said “YES”!! And then I told him who I was, we shared some IRS stories, and then we went to dinner in Georgetown, on M Street, and had some great Italian food and a couple of beers. True story.
Look, you all can trust Lambchop if you want to.
I choose not to trust him based on what he has written in his posts. I have a gift of seeing things that others do not see.
And here is something else, Lambchop's initial post, I don't think was written by one individual. Nope. I believe it was written by at least 3 or 4 folks.
And the manner in which Lambchop signs off with his “Grace and Peace” stuff, is merely another attempt to gain some much needed cover, by pretending to have an affinity for religion.
His (and the IRS's) theory is, that if Lamchop signs off with “Grace and Peace”, it is far less likely that he and his posts will be subject to attack by Bing or others here.
It is a ruse and a trick and I will not fall for Lambchop's “Grace and Peace” schtick.
There are more than 300 Forum Members and you have to figure that there has to be at least 5%, or around 15 people, within the Forum Membership who work for the IRS in some capacity.
One has to understand that part of the IRS Strategy to undermine the US Constitution and make it easier for the IRS to steal money from American Citizens, is that they have a very active propaganda machine that is tasked with using all forms of media, to get their message across.
Every year the IRS pours hundreds of thousands of dollars, probably a few million, into the quatloos.com website in the form of salaries and benefits paid to IRS staffers who spend 8+ hours per day, hiding behind fake names, and writing posts and attacking anyone who posts at quatloos.com, and who is pro-USA Constitution.
And the tell tale sign that they are IRS employees pretending to be from outside the Beltway, is the venegence with which they post their crap.
And every month or so, they will create an new “character/poster”, who will appear to ask a question about the Tax Honesty Movement, and then in lock step, in concert, the IRS employees/quatloosers, will proceed to trash and attack WTP, Bob Shulz, Joe Banister, Vernice Kuglin, etc. And then the new poster will “thank” the IRS shills for helping them avoid making the mistake of listening to the Tax Honesty Movement guys. And thus scaring away, an unsuspecting real American Citizen who may have stumbled upon the quatloos.com forum in search of answers.
And here is something else, every one of the the supposed inquiring posters at quatloos (who, in reality, are actually IRS Employees) who appears to have asked a real question, after they get their propaganda answer from the IRS employees at quatloos, they simply disappear never to be a poster again. Now, ain't that interesting.
Use of the internet is an important component in the IRS propaganda strategy. And wherever they can sow doubt and mistrust, they will do so.
Grace-less and Pee-less.
Bing
Lambchop, I still have not forgotten your first post, in which you arrived in this Forum and felt compelled to invite everyone to a super-secret , ahem, alleged “freedom conference” in Chicago. And lo and behold, you also “volunteered” to do the lion's share of the leg work in organizing the conference for PEOPLE YOU DID NOT EVEN KNOW. Gee, how kind of you to make such an offer.
And my intuition told me then, and it tells me now, that you are an IRS undercover agent.
And, that initial post of yours, and your request and instruction that attendees bring their “business cards” to share with others, led me to surmise that you, sir, are an IRS undercover agent attempting ingratiate yourself into the ranks of the famguardian.org Forum.
I suggested that if you were not an IRS undercover agent, then you should prove it to us by going over to the IRS website at http://www.quatloos.com, and authoring 150+ anti-IRS posts and arguing with the IRS undercover agents who post at quatloos and pretend that they are just “regular” Americans with non-government jobs.
And then I suggested after you do that, come back here and maybe we can discuss you alleged Freedom Conference.
However, you declined to write any anti-IRS posts, and that, my dear sir, makes you even more suspect than you already were.
Now, in the past week, I noted that you have once again attempted to ingratiate yourself in this Forum. I still do not trust you one iota!!!
But your tactic has backfired. You posted an article last week from http://www.supremelaw.org, that is 4 years old.
And to the unsuspecting reader, it may appear as if your html link is anti-IRS, but it is far from that and speaks more generally to the nature of the corrupt US Congress and judiciary.
And in your continuing efforts to bond with the Forum regulars, you posted an informative html link that has nothing to do with the IRS and whose information has already been widely circulated via the internet for at least 3-4 years. Moreover, a long time ago, our esteemed Sonik Speed, who is far wiser than you on these matters, authored a post in this Forum that dealt extensively with the Constitutional Right to Travel.
For me, the more posts you make Lambchop, the more certain I am that you are here under false pretenses and that you are an IRS under cover agent.
You have yet to author in this Forum, any thing that is remotely anti-IRS. Why do you think that is? Do you think that perhaps since you are employed by the IRS, it would be unwise for you or your IRS career, to author anti-IRS posts on the internet?
You should feel free to keep posting whatever you wish, and I likewise will feel equally free to remind the Forum readers that you are most likely an IRS undercover agent and that you should not be trusted by anyone.
Have a nice day!! 🙂
Bing
lambchop, The Informer is misinformed.
Any Act or law that is repugnant to the federal Constitution, is void ab initio.
Further, valid laws that are codified in the United States Statutes at Large, are ONLY valid insofar as they were enacted in furtherance of the USA Constitution.
Thus, over the past 200+ years, the U.S. Congress can and has, passed and enacted what was purported to be a valid law, only to see it later declared as invalid and null and void for being unconstitutional. And the states have done the same thing.
I disagree with your stated premise. The REAL reason that the federal government acts with impunity and egregiously violates the Constitutional and unalienable Rights of the American People, is because the American Citizenry LET THEM!!! Very few people stand up and fight for their rights.
The corruption in federal, state, and local governments runs far and wide and is deeply embedded. Strange thing is, it is our neighbors, friends, and family who are employed by the government and who are betraying the Constitution and who are betraying us.
Americans, on average, are lazy and very stupid and have been dumbed down by the public school system. And they have been brain washed by the government and the media.
The enemy is ignorance.
Bing
😀 😀 😀
Har har har har!!!!
That alleged book reviewer is a wimp!!! He quit after only reading 283 pages. Ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Heck, back in the day, when the Great IRS Hoax Book was a mere 1500, then 1600, then 1700, then 2000+ pages, I read'em, all of 'em.
Yeah, what was frustrating was I couldn't read it fast enough before I turned around, I guess it was in either 2001 or 2002, only to discover that Author #2 wrote more stuff, updated the Hoax book, and was now 6 versions past the version I had printed out!!!
AHahahahahahahah!!! Author #2s was writing and creating stuff even faster than I was reading. And I recall thinking, “man, this guy must be filled with the Holy Spirit”.
I mean, Author #2 was so incredibly prolific and was still working at another full -time job!!!
Those were great days!!!
I learned alot. A tremendous lot. And I have an intellectual debt owed to Author #2 that can never be repaid.
And I used to systematically go through and read nearly every single web page and article on the website. That was when the web site was waaaaaaaaaay smaller and more manageable and only contained a small fraction of the external html links to other web sites.
And it was through famguardian.org that I discovered the Mr. Lawsuit — Mitch M., and Larken, Otto, Dave, Ed, Joe, Tax Nite, and Irwin, and a host of others, who, back then, were light years ahead of me from the standpoint of expertise and legal knowledge.
I got the bug and searched out even more info elsewhere.
I was consumed to the point where I literally was spending 60+ hours a week on this stuff.
And I don't regret a second of it. Not a one.
And you know what? Along the way I even had one or two original thoughts.
We are fighting to save our Republic folks, and we need soldiers on the front line who are well informed, who know the USA Constitution and US Supreme court decisions, and who are ready and willing to fight the IRS head on. And when I say “fight” I only mean through legal writings/letters. We have the Truth and God on our side, so we have no need to resort to violence or threats. We will win this battle and this war on the merits.
I don't care what anyone else says, the http://www.famguardian.org website is the BEST WEBSITE in the world!!! Bar none.
And it speaks volumes that a corrupt IRS, a corrupt U.S. Department of Justice, and a corrupt US Government, are trying to and have tried to discredit and invade our 1st Amendment right to peacably assemble here, and to discuss the Truth about the Internal Revenue Code and the USA Constitution.
Even with the minor typos, “The Great IRS Hoax”, since its subject deals with THE GREATEST FRAUD EVER PERPETRATED IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, is arguably the 2nd greatest and 2nd most important BOOK in the world!!!
Bing
The US Dept of Treasury has changed their web site.
A few months back, one could easily link to the TIGTA web pages via the main Dept of Treasury web site.
Not anymore.
Ya have to know the TIGTA url to get to their Reports.
Seems like the good folks at the U.S. Treasury Department might be trying to hide this stuff from the American People.
Go figure.
Bing
Sure thing, Sonik.
Please note that the admissions made by the TIGTA can be relied upon by non-taxpayers to prove certain facts. Recall that the US Supreme Court has ruled many times that a Citizen may rely upon the admissions and representations made by federal government employees and government agencies.
And since the TIGTA Reports are Official US Government documents, they are self-authenticating as a public record and are admissable as evidence (at least that is what I think —someone, please correct me if I am wrong here).
The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration prepares written reports every six months and files same with Congress. And for those serious researchers among us, they make for compelling reading IMHO.
If you read through a series of TIGTA Reports, you will see that the federal government's own Treasury Department lawyers make any number of startling admissions regarding the IRS and the voluntary nature of the IRS's income tax scheme.
Also, TIGTA investigators do a great job following the IRS's attempts to upgrade their computer systems and they highlight the repeated SNAFUs made by the IRS. And they lay out how the IRS appears to keep making the same operational mistakes over and over and over.
To say that the IRS has inept employees and Management is an understatement.
What is pretty funny is that the lead PRIME Contractor chosen by the IRS to upgrade the IRS's Information Systems, known as BSM, is Computer Sciences Corp, or CSC. And that is the same firm that allegedly has committed accounting fraud and lied in their financial statements for many years. The senior executives of CSC are being investigated by the SEC and may have already been indicted. I am not sure.
What is amazing is that the print and broadcast media, which publicly fried Arthur Anderson for the Enron accounting debacle, has been eerily silent about the alleged misdeeds of CSC. Makes ya wonder. And CSC accounting misstatements are allegedly in the billions of dollars.
Hmmmm.
And let me tell you, theTIGTA Semi Annual Reports are chockful of some great intelligence on the corruption and organizational weaknesses of the IRS. For example, on page 15 of the most recent Report, covering the six months ending March 2005, you can read how the number of direct man hours devoted to the IRS's 6020 Program has drastically declined from 43,209 hours, to 1,151 in FY 2001.
You can get a complete list of all TIGTA Reports since 1999, via the Web at url
http://www.treas.gov/tigta/publications_semi.shtml
I strongly urge folks to save these files to disk and/or print out hard copies, because you may never know when the USG may change their mind and stop making this stuff publicly available.
I hope the above info is helpful. Use it. Apply it. Share it.
Bing
PS. Our beloved Lambchop (a/k/a Lambskin), who I personally believe is an undercover IRS Agent who has tried to infiltrate this Fourm, was going to author a post similar to the one above, and share this great info with the Forum's readers, but he was too busy pretending to be religious and organizing his Freedom Conference to be held in Chicago at some unspecified date in the future.
Well, I long ago gave up on expecting that anyone from WTP would publicly comment on this website, on details and strategies relating to the RTP lawsuit. Plus, the answers to my initial questions could be construed as legal advice. And third, it only makes sense that WTP legal counsel not tip their hand in advance.
Trial strategies are not for public consumption.
My guess is that this WTP Forum was established at famguardian, more for the purposes of demonstrating to the USG that the freedom of speech and RTP goals of WTP, are congruent with the freedom of speech and RTP aspects of the famguardian website.
Thus, having a WTP Forum here, in a certain sense lends credence to and further supports the freedom of speech and RTP aspects of famguardian, and vice versa.
By publicly and inextricably linking the mission and goals of both WTP and famguardian, the legal position of WTP and famguardian are both that much stronger by projecting such public unity.
And it shows on the surface at least, that concerned American Citizens from various backgrounds, want answers from their servant federal government and want the USG to obey the federal Constitution.
It is no secret that the corrupt DOJ and the corrupt IRS monitor this website, so giving them insight into a trial strategy or tactic, would have been a mistake. That said, since the IRS and the DOJ have proven that they are at war with the American Citizenry and the USA Constitution, WTP and Mark Lane could have used this web site to its tactical advantage, but chose not to do so.
Bing
