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1. The best remedy is never to have to get into an argument with payroll clerks or financial institutions to begin with. Those who don't wouldn't be likely to post here. We typically only hear when people have problems, not successes on these forums because when things are going fine, you never hear from them, unfortunately. 🙁
2. The purpose of the materials on this website is to PREVENT having to duke it out with payroll clerks, financial institutions, and the government in the first place.
3. The best remedy is to avoid pagan socialist court to begin with and issue a foreign judgment from your own court whenever the pagan government worshippers give you trouble. That order can be issued by your own local self-created government in accordance with the following. The Declaration of Independence makes it your DUTY to form such a government if you don't like what the current one offers, which is the view of the vast majority of Americans at this time:
Self Government Federation: Articles of Confederation, Form #13.002
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
4. The people who frequent these forums tend to be very independent and very private. It is difficult to get them to post either positive or negative anecdotes, because it compromises their privacy. That is why either plus or minus reports are so sparse here. Consequently, you will have to rely on your own locally formed study or research group created per the Self Government Federation (SGF) document above if you want anecdotes derived from people you personally know and can trust.
5. Section 12 of our About Us Page entitled “Prohibited Activities”, under item 6 forbids members of this fellowship from sharing subjective opinions about the success or effectiveness of particular information or from sharing anything BUT objective scientific statistics. This prevents us from becoming the target of injunctions that would stifle dissemination of our research or from being blamed for the actions or decisions of people who refuse to take responsibility for themselves.
http://famguardian.org/aboutus.htm
For the reasons indicated above, we don't have scientific statistics and even admitting that we did would make us the target of unwanted legal discovery by the tyrants who run our government, thus jeopardizing and imperiling the privacy, sovereignty, and dignity of our fellowship members, unfortunately. The goal of our materials is not to “win” because there are literally MILLIONS of subjective and self-serving definitions for the word, depending on who you talk to. We are God pleasers, not man pleasers. Our goal is freedom of religious exercise, self-government, and legal education. What you do with the education you get here is your business and exclusively your responsibility.
If you seek only commercial or personal success or put allegiance to personal security, prosperity, or risk avoidance above that of simply learning or following the law, you may be using our materials for the wrong reasons and ultimately may bring reproach upon us. What you are asking us to become is an insurance company for your decisions and actions by providing a basis for reliance on anything we say, and we won't do it, no matter what the price. The ONLY thing you can rely on is what the law actually says based on our disclaimer, so it's pointless to divert your reliance towards anything OTHER than the law, including towards the anecdotes of anonymous others. In a true republic, the ONLY basis for belief is your own reading of the law and every man is presumed to read and KNOW the law. That is the essence of sovereignty itself, in fact. Even the Bible acknowledges this:
Quote:“Every man is supposed to know the law. A party who makes a contract with an officer [of the government] without having it reduced to writing is knowingly accessory to a violation of duty on his part. Such a party aids in the violation of the law.”[Clark v. United States, 95 U.S. 539 (1877)]
“One who turns his ear from hearing the law [God's law or man's law], even his prayer is an abomination.”
[Prov. 28:9, Bible, NKJV]
“But this crowd that does not know [and quote and follow and use] the law is accursed.? [John 7:49, Bible, NKJV]
“Salvation is far from the wicked, For they do not seek Your statutes.”
[Psalms 119:155, Bible, NKJV]
Jesus said that where a man's treasure is, there his heart will be also. Where is YOUR heart: Obedience to God and His sacred law or personal prosperity and risk avoidance?
Quote:“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”[Matt 6:21, Luke 12:34, Bible, NKJV]
Those whose only motives are personal prosperity and risk avoidance are little more than animals. The sole focus of all animal species is maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain. God has a much greater calling for you than that, brother! All the people in the Bible who Christians respect and revere all had to take a LOT of heat for their beliefs and actions in the pursuit of truth and justice: Jesus, Paul, all the apostles, Elijah, Daniel, Isaiah, etc. Every one of them shared truth that no one wanted to hear and the universal reaction was to shoot the messenger rather than accept the message and act on it. In that sense, the truth definitely separates the men from the boys. Are you a man or a boy? Are you going to ACT on the truth as is plainly stated in the law, or are you going to shoot the messenger, which is us?
Quote:“It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.”My two cents.
Neo,
You are correct, but everything you already said is already thoroughly analyzed and proven in the following, which has been on this website for several years:
1. Requirement For Consent, Form #05.003, Section 9.3
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
2. Great IRS Hoax, Section 5.4.2.4
http://famguardian.org/Publications/GreatI…reatIRSHoax.htm
3. Galileo Paradigm, Chapter 19
http://famguardian.org/Publications/Galile…leoParadigm.pdf
If you were following the Path to Freedom document, you would have already encountered this in the checklist to freedom because it is part of the only approved curricula for those participating in our forums. Are you following that document?
Path to Freedom, Form #09.015
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
Repetition here is unnecessary, unless you have something to add to those resources. What you posted doesn't add to them and the purpose of these forums is to expand and improve prior research. The only thing new is the history or research you haven't already learned or read, which on this site is considerable for newbies, unfortunately. 🙁
Thanks for your participation and interest anyway.
Thanks, Franklin.
The corruption you point of Congress delegating its authority to legislate to the Executive Branch is more thoroughly documented in section 8.3 of:
Government Conspiracy to Destroy the Separation of Powers, Form #05.023
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
The direct link is:
Thanks, Author #5.
Anyone with half a brain can see that becoming a “taxpayer” is voluntary by looking at the above joke:
1. The foundation of the Constitution is equal protection. See:
Requirement for Equal Protection and Equal Treatment, Form #05.033
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
2. To tax each person unequally or an unequal percentage violates equal protection. That's why nonresident aliens get taxed at a flat 30% because they are protected by the Constitution. 26 USC 871(a). By comparison, those domiciled on federal territory not protected by the constitution pay a graduated, UNEQUAL rate in 26 USC 1.
3. Therefore, income taxes must be an indirect excise on a voluntary activity that is avoidable. That activity is a “trade or business”. The only way you can pay a graduated rate as a person protected by the COnstitution is to falsely characterize your domicile by filing a RESIDENT form, which is the WRONG form, IRS form 1040.
Quod Erod Demonstrandum (Q.E.D.)
Forwarded via an email list to me:
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From: Christopher Hansen
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:23 AM
To: rivera office
Subject: Re: George Washington Oath
Hi Ed,
I am very sorry that you believe that masons are devil worshipers.
I suppose you also believe that Mormons, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus and Odinists are also devil worshipers. The Odinists gave us the jury system so that must be Satanic too, right? Who else is on your eternal damnation list?
George Washington could have been king. He turned it down. The fact that you believe George Washington was a devil worshiper demonstrates that the rest of your theory is not good fruit as it is based upon incorrect information. The Bible says it is by their fruit they shall be known. If your fruit includes calling Washington a devil worshiper then your fruit is evil. Washington's fruit, on the other hand, was not evil. His sacrifices for the Revolution demonstrate his good fruit. His prayers to God the Father through His Son Jesus Christ are also good fruit. They are well documented.
When a person swears an oath he calls God as a witness and it is an act of religion. That is a maxim of the common law. George Washington added the phrase “so help me God” because that was a part of his religious belief. Don't you believe in religious liberty, Ed? Washington was, after all, taking an oath and not an irreligious affirmation. The words, so help me God would have been necessary for it to be an oath. Without God being included it is not an oath but an affirmation. Which one was he taking,Ed? An oath or an affirmation.
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:?”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
It cannot be both, Ed. So which one did Washington take? The Satanic affirmation or the Christian oath?
I suppose that God did not help the Revolution either, in your mind. Was it Satan that protected Washington so he could not be shot. Was it the devil that lowered the river's level so he and the American Revolutionary army could escape and then raise the level again to keep the British from following? What god was it that Jefferson and Adams and Madison speak of, that helped the Revolution? Is Satan referred to as Providence? Was it the devil? Why did the devil help to create America? Why not just leave it under the control of the British. After all the devil cannot fight against the devil or his kingdom fails. Christ told us that. Was Christ a Satan worshiper too?
Of course if Washington was a devil worshiper because he was a Mason then Franklin was also a devil worshiper as he was also a Mason. Was Jefferson a devil worshiper also? How about Adams. Adams was a Calvinist, as I recall. Jefferson called Calvinists Demonists. So the Declaration of Independence was also written by devil worshipers? At least one of the three, Franklin, Jefferson and Adams, was a known Mason. That must be what you believe if Masons are devil worshiper since Franklin was a Mason as were several of the Founders.
Can you please tell me which religion is the true religion with the correct God? Obviously you must know since you know that Washington was a devil worshiper. Are you a prophet too? I believe it is obvious that you are a prophet. A false one.
Christopher Hansen, Christian
Dmiladin,
The general guidance you seek on how to get started in becoming free is on the both the Taxation page, Section 8:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/taxes.htm
and the Sovereignty and Freedom Page, Section 6.1:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Freedom/Freedom.htm
That would be the following:
Path to Freedom, Form #09.005
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
We are surprised that you could be studying the subject of freedom and taxation for three months on the above pages and never notice that form. The form gives detailed procedures for getting free and sovereign, and points to all the resources one needs to study the various subjects that will come up in your study and journey. Its goal is to accelerate your study of freedom and sovereignty. The above document also appears on the opening page of SEDM in big letters:
Beyond the above, we can't give legal advice and the Prohibited Activities in Section 12 of the About Us page prohibits giving promises or assurances about the effectiveness of the materials on this website.
http://famguardian.org/aboutus.htm
Our prayers are with you that you in your committed study and efforts to enforce the law against our public servants.
SovereignMan,
This tactic does not seem uncommon, and it is an unconstitutional bill of attainder, which is a penalty administered by other than a court. The only thing required to get a passport is allegiance. They are asking for all the other information now on IN-709-01 form because they are trying to connect you to a federal franchise and a number, but:
1. Title 8 doesn't require it.
2. The IN-709 form doesn't have an OMB control number so isn't as valid request for information.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Citi…st-20080207.pdf
3. No regulations require it.
4. They are executing a bill of attainder and violating equal protection. They don't ask others for it but they are penalizing you and making more work for you by asking for it because they want to discourage people from escaping the federal slave plantation.
They are doing this to harass you. The method of handling this is described at:
1. How to Apply for a Passport as a National
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Citi…orAPassport.htm
2. USA Passport Application Attachment, Form #06.007
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
Are you reading the directions? It's pointless repeating them here.
Layed,
If you are suing the mortgage company to cancel a debt, this forum is not the appropriate place to obtain help. We frown on people who abuse the legal system to escape their responsibilities.
Yes, the money system is a scam and the bank didn't loan any of it's own money per 12 USC 82(a), but two wrongs don't make a right.
If you are trying to cancel a mortgage instead of stop a foreclosure, then you aren't welcome to abuse these forums for your own agenda.
Is that the case? At least be honest enough to disclose your motives before you go out demanding help from people who are trying to stop fraud. You make them an accessory to fraud by using these forums to cancel mortgages.
See:
1. About SSNs/TINs on Government Forms and Correspondence, Form #05.012
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
2. Why It is Illegal for Me To Request or Use a Taxpayer Identification Number, Form #04.022
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
The number belongs to the government. Unless you are appearing at the passport office as a public officer on official duty, you don't “have” a number. Whether you appear as a public officer or a private individual is your choice and no one can make you work for free. Please do your homework. Unfortunately, we are not funded or resourced to individually help or spoon feed people here, so you need to figure this out yourself. Those who are too lazy to read and study the truth for themselves, according to the Bible, can't be sovereign and will end up being a slave.
Quote:“The hand of the diligent will rule, But the lazy man will be put to forced labor.”[Prov. 12:24, Bible, NKJV]
“But he who looks into [STUDIES] the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.”
[James 1:25, Bible, NKJV]
Good luck
Richard 9151:
The 1871 act to which you refer is found below:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/16Am…tuesAtLarge.pdf
Nowhere within the act is the specific version of the constitution which was adopted mentioned. Why do you conclude that it is the Constitution FOR the United States rather than the Constitution OF the United States?
Richard 9151,
Very interesting!
1. The capitalization is different
2. The word “defence” is replaced with “defense”.
Reb,
Even under the concept of Cooperative Federalism
[e.g. http://sedm.org/LibertyU/CooperativeFederalism.pdf]
the States who are party to the Constitution cannot consent to an enlargment of federal powers within their borders. To wit:
Quote:“To the contrary, the Constitution divides authority between federal and state governments for the protection of individuals. State sovereignty is not just an end in itself: “Rather, federalism secures to citizens the liberties that derive from the diffusion of sovereign power.” Coleman v. Thompson, 501 U.S. 722, 759 (1991) (BLACKMUN, J., dissenting). “Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate branches of the Federal Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front.” Gregory v. [505 U.S. 144, 182]?? Ashcroft, 501 U.S., at 458 . See The Federalist No. 51, p. 323. (C. Rossiter ed. 1961).Where Congress exceeds its authority relative to the States, therefore, the departure from the constitutional plan cannot be ratified by the “consent” of state officials. An analogy to the separation of powers among the branches of the Federal Government clarifies this point. The Constitution's division of power among the three branches is violated where one branch invades the territory of another, whether or not the encroached-upon branch approves the encroachment. In Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1, 118 -137 (1976), for instance, the Court held that Congress had infringed the President's appointment power, despite the fact that the President himself had manifested his consent to the statute that caused the infringement by signing it into law. See National League of Cities v. Usery, 426 U.S., at 842 , n. 12. In INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919, 944 -959 (1983), we held that the legislative veto violated the constitutional requirement that legislation be presented to the President, despite Presidents' approval of hundreds of statutes containing a legislative veto provision. See id., at 944-945. The constitutional authority of Congress cannot be expanded by the “consent” of the governmental unit whose domain is thereby narrowed, whether that unit is the Executive Branch or the States.
State officials thus cannot consent to the enlargement of the powers of Congress beyond those enumerated in the Constitution. Indeed, the facts of this case raise the possibility that powerful incentives might lead both federal and state officials to view departures from the federal structure to be in their personal interests. Most citizens recognize the need for radioactive waste disposal sites, but few want sites near their homes. As a result, while it would be well within the authority of either federal or state officials to choose where the disposal sites will be, it is likely to be in the political interest of each individual official to avoid being held accountable to the voters for the choice of location. If [505 U.S. 144, 183]?? a federal official is faced with the alternatives of choosing a location or directing the States to do it, the official may well prefer the latter, as a means of shifting responsibility for the eventual decision. If a state official is faced with the same set of alternatives – choosing a location or having Congress direct the choice of a location – the state official may also prefer the latter, as it may permit the avoidance of personal responsibility. The interests of public officials thus may not coincide with the Constitution's intergovernmental allocation of authority. Where state officials purport to submit to the direction of Congress in this manner, federalism is hardly being advanced. ”
[New York v. United States, 505 U.S. 144 (1992)]
Richard 9151:
I agree with you. Thanks for pointing that out.
Where, pray tell, may we find the TWO versions of the constitution:
1. The Constitution OF the United States.
2. The Constitution FOR the United States.
juu1k0ry
One of our members talked to Ed Brown. The reason he has become a target is mainly because of his own ignorance:
1. He doesn't know that the I.R.C. is an excise tax on the “trade or business” franchise.
2. He doesn't know what a “franchise” is.
3. He doesn't know that information return reporting, such as Currency Transaction Reports, may only be filed in connection with a “trade or business”,
4. He hasn't done anything in the Liberty University that we are aware of and didn't even know about it until they mentioned it to him.
5. The charge of structuring (31 U.S.C. 5324) he is facing involves avoiding information return reporting. Since he doesn't understand a “trade or business”, he is clueless about how to properly respond, which is to insist that he is not involved in a “trade or business” and therefore is exempt from information return reporting pursuant to 26 CFR 103.30(d)(2).
6. He was pointed at the information to get him up to speed, but he doesn't seem interested in it and is distracted by other things, which is why he remains an attractive target for the government.
7. The transactions associated with the structuring charge he faces are postal money orders. Ed was really dumb to use postal money orders issued by the post office. Every one of those money orders says “Valid only in the U.S. and possessions.” meaning, within the federal zone. When you use those money orders, they place you under the jurisdiction of federal courts and federal law. He also boldly told the postal clerk what he was doing, in order to invite the clerk to file a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) against him and get him in trouble. He hung a target on his back to invite all the adverse attention he got. He has mostly himself to blame for this.
The enemy is ignorance. The government are like sharks. When they smell blood in the water, which is ignorance, they strike because its the low-hanging fruit that they can get lots of political mileage from with very little effort.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Fals…/propaganda.pdf
Ed is his own worst enemy because he didn't do his homework before he jumped in to take on the IRS, and because he won't listen to people who could really help him. He also didn't have any exculpatory evidence in his administrative record to exonerate him. The government wins because they pick easy targets like him. All the courage and all the morality in the world won't make up for the basic ignorance Ed has about the nature of the income tax and federal jurisdiction.
For details on what a “trade or business” is, see:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Arti…usinessScam.htm
Otherwise, please don't try to engage me in further discussion on this, because it's pointless since Ed won't change his ways and it's not my job to give you a free education or entertain you. I've got better things to do and you really do need to EARN your sovereignty through independent study. No one is going to hand it to you on a silver spoon and if they did, you wouldn't deserve it and you wouldn't appreciate what you had because you didn't have to work for it.
Lastly, you're on the right track by following what is in Liberty U. Just stay there and work hard at it, and you'll know more than 99% of the american public about the nature of the government and taxation and law.
Dear Richard9151:
I searched all the U.S. supreme court rulings from the beginning and cannot find the reference that says “exclusive” means ''without the restraint of the Constitution''. Please enlighten us.
Also, I am puzzled by your comment:
Quote:He knew, and everyone else at that time did as well, that the Constitution did not apply to the District of Columbia.This comment is inconsistent with what the Supreme Court said in Downes, whereby they admitted that the constitution attached irrevocably to D.C. Why would Washington believe otherwise if the land ceded by Maryland was once covered by the constitution?
