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December 11, 2008 at 10:08 pm #1639
This submission contains language that may prove useful to those of you who want to contact the pastor of your church to discuss how to remove it from privileged 501(c )(3) status and regain its sovereignty and independence from the government. First, we provide the introductory email, a sample response, and a sample response to the pastor's response. This communication is intended to be used in combination with the following document:
What Pastors and Clergy Need to Know About Government and Taxation, Form #12.006
http://sedm.org/Forms/FormIndex.htm
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INTRODUCTORY EMAIL TO PASTOR:
Thank you for your wonderful ministry. We always enjoy your sermons.
A recent sermon that you gave on Matt. 17:24-27 caused me great concern, however, because I believe the treatment was completely inconsistent with Biblical doctrine, American History, and legal jurisprudence. In particular, you misquoted this scripture by removing the word NOT from Jesus' mouth and thereby completely reversed the context to make Jesus look like a “taxpayer”.
Quote:“Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?”He said, “Yes.”
In that same passage, Jesus said: “”Then the sons [meaning citizens] are free.” The strangers he is talking about are aliens. All taxpayers are aliens in the internal revenue code. See 26 CFR 1.1441-1(c ), which defines the “individual” on the IRS form 1040 as an alien and NOT a “citizen”. The people, in fact, accused Jesus of being a nontaxpayer. See Luke 23:2. Why would they do that if he told people to pay “tribute” to a king that the bible doesn't allow them to have?
I would expect that a person such as yourself who is also undertaking an education in law would want to know why I believe this, and also would welcome an opportunity to discuss and debate these issues. Consequently, I have prepared a presentation documenting some of the reasons why your comments are inconsistent with scripture, which is attached. Originally, I called your office on __________ to request a meeting so that I could give the attached presentation and have a private meeting with you over these important issues. Your secretary ________ revealed that you are too busy for such a meeting. I am hoping to change your mind with this email. Of course the main focus of such a meeting would be understanding the “legislative intent” of God's Holy laws and in obeying them as much as humanly possible. I assure you that I such a meeting would not become a forum for personal opinion, dogma, or worldly Pharisee doctrine, but instead to educate, debate, and come to the truth of the matter through prayer and exposition of Truth from God's word.
Can you please:
1. Either offer me an opportunity to meet with me over the issues described in the attached OR 2. Rebut the information presented in the attached…OR 3. Offer me an opportunity to meet with someone who DOES have time to discuss these very important issues.
I have talked with you informally about several of these issues in the past, so my face would not be unfamiliar to you.
If neither you nor one of your informed pastor helpers can confront these difficult issues in person with me, then please at least take the time respond with a detailed rebuttal in writing. A meeting is preferred and would be more convenient and less time consuming than other means, which is why I suggested it to ______. If a written rebuttal is all I can get, then I'll be disappointed, but more importantly, I believe members of the congregation will continue to be misinformed about probably one of the most important and far-reaching issues of our time. I don't want to see this happen, which is why I wrote this email and tried to setup a meeting to begin with.
I would estimate that such a meeting would take up about two hours of your time. It is unfortunate that your secretary has forced me to show you these materials in advance, because I believe that it “steals my thunder”.
In Christ,
[Your Name]
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RESPONSE FROM PASTOR:
I received your email and began to look at the materials, after reading your request which was very demanding.
I don't think my secretary “stole your thunder.” She was doing the job that Jesus gave her to do.
Nevertheless, I began to read your materials and if you notice the first page has a disclaimer. In just receiving my law degree last year I realized that what is written is not actually supported by the writers or their would be no disclaimer.
So, I am not really interested in the subject matter.
Jesus said, “render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar.”
I think is my position, is to follow what God says and Paul reiterates it in Chapter 13 of Romans.
I love your country, I support our government, I don't have an axe to grind.
[Signed, pastor]
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SAMPLE RESPONSE TO THE PASTOR:
The materials distributed by the IRS have the SAME disclaimer. See the link below.
http://www.irs.gov/irm/part4/ch10s11.html
In particular, see section 4.10.7.2.8 of the IRS Internal Revenue Manual, which says:
Quote:“IRS Publications, issued by the Headquarters Office, explain the law in plain language for taxpayers and their advisors. They typically highlight changes in the law, provide examples illustrating Service positions, and include worksheets. Publications are nonbinding on the Service and do not necessarily cover all positions for a given issue. While a good source of general information, publications should not be cited to sustain a position.”Are you also saying that I should regard your own sermons as equally non-binding and not go to church? Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 602 says beliefs and optinions are not admissible as evidence, and therefore may not form a basis for good faith reliance. Among such beliefs and opinions are religious beliefs such as those you espouse from the pulpit. Why shouldn't:
1. I treat your sermons the same way.
2. You treat my comments on the same level as yours, meaning beliefs and opinons.
Why are you willing to believe the government but not me, even though they use the SAME disclaimer? God is not partial or biased towards government. In fact, He says quite the opposite:
Quote:“Behold, the nations [and governments and politicians of the nations] are as a drop in the bucket, and are counted as the small dust on the scales.”[Isaiah 40:15, Bible, NKJV]
The fact that people continue to have unquestioned allegiance to a government that is lying to them and violating its corporate charter and delegation of authority order, the Constitution, is the reason why things continue to get worse, which is the very cause of so many of the evils that so eloquently propound upon in your sermons.
Quote:“The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,”[2 Thess. 2:9, Bible, NKJV]
Your interpretation of Romans 13 is also inconsistent with scripture. The Bible says the heaven AND the Earth and all the fullness thereof belongs to God.
Quote:“Indeed heaven and the highest heavens belong to the Lord your God, also the earth with all that is in it.”[Deuteronomy 10:14, Bible, NKJV]
I'll ask you one simple question: If the heavens and the earth and all the fulness thereof, and everything made from elements in the earth belong to God, then please tell me what is LEFT to render to the government (Caesar) other than what I consent absent duress to give him and delegate to him as my protection contractor serving under a delegation of authority order and contract called the Constitution?:
Quote:“The rights of the individual are not derived from governmental agencies, either municipal, state or federal, or even from the Constitution. They exist inherently in every man, by endowment of the Creator, and are merely reaffirmed in the Constitution, and restricted only to the extent that they have been voluntarily surrendered by the citizenship to the agencies of government. The people's rights are not derived from the government, but the government's authority comes from the people.*946 The Constitution but states again these rights already existing, and when legislative encroachment by the nation, state, or municipality invade these original and permanent rights, it is the duty of the courts to so declare, and to afford the necessary relief. The fewer restrictions that surround the individual liberties of the citizen, except those for the preservation of the public health, safety, and morals, the more contented the people and the more successful the democracy.”[City of Dallas v Mitchell, 245 S.W. 944 (1922)]
In America, Caesar is you and me, not our public servants. Our public servants are the ones who should be rendering only that level of government that we need and want and are willing to pay for and nothing more. We decide whether we are required to pay by choosing a domicile in their civil jurisdiciton, which is voluntary. THEY should be doing the rendering to their sponsor, not us. We, the customer, are always right. The Bible says its a sin to have a king above us, and therefore we can only be served from below rather than ruled from above. 1 Sam. 8:4-20:
Quote:“While sovereign powers are delegated to … the government, sovereignty itself remains with the people..”[Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886)]
“There is no such thing as a power of inherent sovereignty in the government of the United States …. In this country sovereignty resides in the people, and Congress can exercise no power which they have not, by their Constitution entrusted to it: All else is withheld.”
[Juilliard v. Greenman, 110 U.S. 421 (1884)]
Jesus affirmed the above, when He said the following, which is also repeated in Matt. 23:11, and Mark 10:43:
Quote:“Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant.”[Matt. 20:26, Bible, NKJV]
Based on your behavior in this case, I have no choice but to conclude that your sermon about taxes was all lip service and that you really serve mammon (the government), and not the true and living God. That decision is causing many to stumble and will lead me away from your church, because it is hurting not me, but the congregation.
Quote:“My brethren, let not many of you become teachers , knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.”[James 3:1, Bible, NKJV]
See also:
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Reme…ForTaxation.htm
I remind you that the Bible is not an entertaining history book but a LAW book, and that you are teaching the congregation God's law and its legislative intent. No one in the congregation should be more concerned about what it requires than God's apologist and defense counsel, the pastor of this church. Faith without works consistent with the requirements of God's law is DEAD faith. James 2. All grace and no law makes jack a weak, ineffective vine who will be burned in the fire. John 15. Why are ALL judged in the end if works don't matter and grace is everything?
Sincerely,
[Your name]
"Two things I request of You (Deprive me not before I die): Remove falsehood and lies far from me; Give me neither poverty nor riches— Feed me with the food allotted to me; Lest I be full and deny You, And say, “Who is the Lord?” Or lest I be poor and steal, And profane the name of my God."
[Prov. 30:7-9, Bible, NKJV] -
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